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July 7, 2008 3:40 PM PDT

Best MP3 players and product life cycles--Ask the Editors

by Jasmine France

By far the most difficult (read: impossible) question for me to answer is: what is the very best MP3 player/headphone/iPod speaker/etc? That's because there is no single device in any given category that is perfect for every person. There is a healthy handful of MP3 players that I think are excellent, but finding the right device for an individual has a lot to do with personal preference and requirements. I can, however, tell you what I would buy for myself. Also this week: how to judge the best time to buy a new MP3 player.

Find the Archos 605 online.

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Q: I have been reading and watching review on your website (and others) and by far you guys are the best. However, I am thoroughly confused. What is the top, #1 best rated MP3 player? I can't decide between the Zune 80GB, the iPod Classic, the Creative Zen, or the Archos. Knowing what you know, which MP3 player would you buy today? Do your "best" lists go in order? Is the first listed what you consider the best? Also, if you knew if the Zune third-generation was coming out in 2008 or 2009, would you wait?--Bobbie, via e-mail

The Zen V Plus is my gold standard.

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A: Navigating the tech market can certainly be a confusing process, so I don't blame you for asking for advice--that's what we're here for, after all! There isn't really just one MP3 player that we consider the best of the best; more like a handful of great players that are the best for you depending on your specific needs. The Best 5 list isn't necessarily in order: each player makes the list for a set of reasons. We consider a few criteria when adding to the list: value, sound quality, feature set, and ease of use are all top considerations. I like all of the players listed in the Best 5 for different reasons, but personally, I would buy the Creative Zen V Plus, even though it's been out for two years and is dated by market standards. It's just the perfect balance of features, sound quality, size, and ease of use for me.

Zune 80: a solid option

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However, I generally recommend the Zune for people who are getting older and may have failing eyesight, because it uses a large font and is very easy to use overall. It also has a reasonable amount of features and good sound quality. I probably would not wait for the third-gen Zune simply because I would not want to be without an MP3 player for six months or more.

Q: I would like to buy an MP3 player. When does the industry introduce their new players to the public? I know that the manufactures will not do it at the same time, but in general would they want to take advantage of some event where folks are looking for a new player? Events such as Christmas, start of school, and so on is what I am thinking about. Also, I don't want to pay full price for a dated model that I happen to buy one week before the new release. --Kerry, via e-mail

A: It varies, though certain manufacturers have cycles that they tend to follow. For example, Apple tends to announce new iPods in September or October. Others, such as Creative, launch players within the current line throughout the year. And--yes--a lot of companies release at least one new product in fall to coincide with the holiday buying schedule. In general, though, you can count on products refreshing on an annual basis. So a good rule of thumb is to look at the release date for the player you like: if it is around a year old, it likely has a new version coming out soon, and it may be wise to wait. Also, keep an eye out at the end of October and beginning of November for new products or deals on existing products.

(Credit: CNET Networks/Corinne Schulze)

MP3 Mailbox Monday is a recurring feature in which I answer a selection of questions about MP3 players and accessories, such as headphones, speakers, and music services and software. Check back often to see if the advice presented here might be of some use to you, or send your questions directly to me. (Note: We never include last names, but if you prefer to remain completely anonymous, please state as much in your e-mail.)

For more than five years, Jasmine France has covered a variety of tech products for CNET--from scanners to keyboards to GPS devices--but she's happiest where she is now: sitting atop a pile of MP3 players, "testing" every music service known to man, and jamming a variety of earbuds in every shape and color into her absurdly small ears. E-mail Jasmine.
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by EBone12355 July 7, 2008 4:11 PM PDT
Only an iPod will give you industry wide connectivity. many new cars, radios, and even airliners have special iPod connectors now, and the list is growing. Get an iPod.

Unless you drive a Ford, that is, and want to connect a Zune to their Sync system.
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by LunaticSX July 7, 2008 4:21 PM PDT
One of the best ways to know when to buy a new iPod is to go here: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ They've tracked the history of all of Apple's current hardware and give simple recommendations on when to buy or not buy due to the liklihood of new models being released.
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by Jasmineflower July 8, 2008 10:48 AM PDT
Great advice--thanks for the tip!
by LunaticSX July 7, 2008 4:35 PM PDT
BTW, you should ALWAYS ask or give a caveat about what type of computer the user has before giving a recommendation. The recommended Creative Zen V Plus and Zune WON'T WORK ON MACS! So if the reader has a Mac you're doing a disservice to them by recommending those players. And you can't just assume that all Mac owners will want an iPod, or that the people asking for recommendations must be Windows users (Mac market share is growing and growing; 20% of laptops sold in the U.S. are now Macs, and Apple may get close to 10% of all U.S. computers sold this year). P.S. Telling a reader what you would buy for yourself is also poor guidance if you're someone at the leading edge of gadgets and gizmos--don't wish the slings and arrows in the backs of early adopters on the average users who follow.
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by billeeyum July 9, 2008 10:53 AM PDT
She said that the Zen V Plus is two years old in the article and that it is dated by industry standards. Hardly the cutting edge of mp3 technology.
by otokichi July 9, 2008 10:54 PM PDT
If you can put up with the rough edges on XNJB, you too can upload whatever MP3 files you want from whichever OSX Mac computer you have. Drop by the Low End Mac webpage and look for a post about the SanDisk Sansa Clip, but look for the "more software needed" discussion. Then you won't need a SanDisk Sansa Clip or an iPod, as you dance to what's on your Creative Zen MP3 player.
by ian2k2 July 21, 2008 10:34 AM PDT
zune can work for MAC OS X...
it should be version 10.2 with bootcamp 2.0
check zune.net for minimum systems requirements...
peace man!
by Faztang July 9, 2008 7:25 AM PDT
Jasmine I am sure Microsoft would love the fact that you are basically stating their target market is anyone with an AARP card. I'm sure that was the exact demographic they were going after.

Sincerely,
a 37 year old Zune owner (kid) with 20/20 vision
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by billeeyum July 9, 2008 10:52 AM PDT
She didn't say that people who are losing their sight are the only people who should buy a Zune, but that if you are it is a good choice.
by lmngs1998 July 9, 2008 11:28 AM PDT
I'm sure that Microsoft is loving all the Zune gushing CNet has been producing in the last month. Zune giveaways, glowing Zune recommendations, glowing Zune accessory recommendations, all the while CNet is littered with Zune ads. Convenient.

All said, the iPod lineup provides the best MP3 solution for the simple reason of seamless synchronization of content, computer, and device. Unlike Jasmine's not so surprising recommends (she's been hocking the Creative Zen V Plus for two years now), iPods are Windows and Macintosh compatible and therefore one does not have to worry about which device will be compatible with their OS.
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by SightlessOldFoggie July 9, 2008 12:52 PM PDT
Jasmine,
Your comment about "people who are getting older and may have failing eyesight." deserves a reply. Have you totally forgotten younger and middle aged people that may have failing eyesight? What about kids that can't see well? Where are your concerns for animals, left handed people, and underhanded people with seeing difficulties? Why make the Zune a product for the elderly? You could have settled for visually impaired people. No, you tagged the getting older set . Poor choice!
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by Jasmineflower July 9, 2008 3:16 PM PDT
The person who originally posed the question signed it as a "senior citizen" and including that little aside didn't fit naturally into the Q & A template. I recommend the Zune for anyone who may not have perfect eyesight because of the large font, but that by no means is meant to suggest that it is only for older people. I know plenty of young and middle-aged folks who have the Zune and are quite happy with it.
by xbrando7 July 9, 2008 3:25 PM PDT
The Creative Zen is a solid mp3 player, but isn't it just a tad old? I love it's features and design, but i remember looking at those the same way i am now at least two years ago. The new Zune is definitely a great alternative to the original Zune. I also love it's new feature set, with it's own music store now supplying a limited selection of tv shows and music videos. But I really dont understand why everybody here at cnet is so jazzed up about the Archos 605, sure it has wifi and a giant screen, but it's construction looks cheap, and it's 2 gb hard disk is not enough to do its feature set justice. And last but not least, im confused as to why the iPod touch is not on this page. Wasn't an editors choice from cnet for mp3 players for a while?
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by Jasmineflower July 9, 2008 4:06 PM PDT
The Zen V Plus that I said I would personally buy is certainly old, as I noted in my response above. The reason the Creative Zen, iPod Classic, and Archos are all mentioned is because they were all part of the original question, which I will only edit for length and not specific content. The iPod Touch was never mentioned by the reader who posed the question, which is why it is not noted in the response. That player wasn't an editros' choice, though it is one of the highest rated and would be one of my top suggestions for someone looking for a luxury player (i.e. doesn't mind spending more than average on an MP3 player for some cool features and a great screen).
by E.H. July 9, 2008 5:59 PM PDT
As an old fogy in my 50s I purchased the Zune back last January. I thought it was a very nice device but I took it back because I thought the software for the computer was not user friendly, at least for this user. I had been using an old MUVO MP3 player. Since most of the music I wanted to put on the device was from my many LPs and CDs that I had ripped. I just ripped the LP or CD contents into its own folder and just wanted to drag and drop these into the player as I had been doing with the MUVO. I didn?t want to mess with syncing or buying music on-line. The Zune, and possibly the ipod, seemed to me to be just a means to sell you stuff via the web site. I?m sure I could have gotten used to it but I think a drag and drop system is easier to use. Anyway my LG phone has a player in it so I just use that.
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by seanymack123 July 10, 2008 12:24 AM PDT
Jasmine France is hottt
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by NearChaos July 11, 2008 7:51 AM PDT
This is an expensive option but lately I've been using my Nokia N95 as a media player. One thing that really stands out is good internal speakers, so you don't need to listen on headphones if the opportunity presents itself. I was also surprised how well the battery held up after listening to music on the speakers for an hour. It was also nice to be able to use a WiFi connection at a hotspot to stream music rather than having to rely on whatever was on my SD card.

The downside is that the phone will set you back around $500. The upside is that it's actually a really decent phone.
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