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April 14, 2008 4:00 PM PDT

Verizon unveils low-cost unlimited data plan

by Tom Krazit
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Verizon trotted out a low-cost all-you-can-eat data plan for its subcribers Monday, although it's only available on a few phones.

Motorola Q9m

The Motorola Q9m is one of the three phones eligible for a new Verizon data plan.

(Credit: CNET Networks)

If you've got a Motorola Q9m, a Verizon Wireless SMT5800 (HTC) or a Verizon Wireless XV6800 (UTStarcom), you can now add a $29.99-a-month e-mail and Web browsing plan to your "qualifying" voice plan. Exactly what the qualifications are was left unsaid in Verizon's press release.

Unlimited plans have been all the rage among the carriers lately, as they try and one-up each other with new pricing. With the growing popularity of smartphones, it also makes sense that pricing competition would start to become more common among the data services as well.

Verizon said it would include more phones in the new plan over the next few months. There's already such a plan in place for BlackBerry users.

Tom Krazit writes about the ever-expanding world of Internet search, including Google, Yahoo, online advertising, and portals, as well as the evolution of mobile computing. He has written about traditional PC companies, chip manufacturers, and mobile computers, spending the last three years covering Apple. E-mail Tom.
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by Derrickm3 December 2, 2008 9:05 PM PST
This is an email I just sent to verizon. What a scam!
After spending 40 minutes on the phone with your customer support, I am still absolutely astounded that your company has decided to force everyone who decides on purchasing a smartphone to also purchase a data plan. In the case of the WiFi enabled Samsung Omnia, you would be charging me 720$ over 2 years simply to receive updates. Everything the data package allows except updates can be accomplished over WiFi and through basic functionalities. Moreover it is completely plausible to receive updates over WiFi if Verizon were to create a very simple manual update program. Basically Verizon has decided to charge all of its WiFi smartphone customers $720 for updating a phone. The price however is not the issue here, the issue is the fact that we have no options. I have no use for 3g as I am surrounded by WiFi. All I want is WiFi and the capabilities a basic phone can handle (the ability to send pictures, texts and calls). This is not asking much. This policy will not be tolerated for very long as not many people can afford to triple their phone spending for an unnecessary browsing and update option. I can only hope that Verizon is the first to realize that this is blatant robbery. After being a Verizon costumer for 7 years and to now be slapped in the face with this ridiculous policy I will likely never return to Verizon as a provider purely on principle.
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by JordanMoyer March 11, 2009 1:31 PM PDT
I was assured by three different customer representatives that I would be able to remove the data package after I purchased the phone. WRONG! I have been on the phone for several weeks trying to straighten out this problem with no luck, they told me I would have to take the phone back to the store and they would have to charge me to restock it when I would have never purchased it if I had not been lied to. I would switch to AT&T in a heart beat if the majority of my family did not have verizon. SCAM!!
by cnetpilk September 21, 2009 11:54 AM PDT
Totally agree. Can we take tis issue to the FTC or our lawmakers and force Ver to act ethically?
by BennettLarson September 30, 2009 10:08 PM PDT
Wow man i agree with you 100% i was planning on upgrading from my razor to the amazing htc touch pro 2 but now that this policy (which i just learned about) is in use theres no way im getting it! this totally sucks! now i will have to get the dare or env touch, which all and all are great phones just not up to the magnitude of the touch pro 2 and sadly i cannot leave verizon because i would have to convince my parents to switch....they're not easily presuaded by a high school student....joy.

thx again verizon for screwing me over >=(
by shini_gamie December 3, 2008 1:24 PM PST
Couldn't agree more with you "Derrickm3". My contract ended so i was looking forward to upgrading my phone and sign another 2 year contract with Verizon. I wanted to get HTC touch pro. I was told i cant have any smart phone/BB without data plan. I am around Wi-fi 90 percent of my day and i have hot spot all around where i am at. So why should i pay for there dam data plan?. To me, whats Verizon doing is nothing less then extortion (thats my personal opinion). I was with Verizon for over 8 years. I am going to make sure that my family drop Verizon too and my friends and there family too.

Some people and Verizon rep, said its good to have data plan regardless because of map and stuff. When buying smart phone people can put there own map software that is free. I am buying a Smart phone because i can put my software that have up to date maps. I just load them on micro SD.

I am going to go with ATT since they dont shove data plan on customer with there good phones. Getting HTC fuze. ATT will just block me form there data service. I can use Wi-fi with no prob. I hope Verizon realize that we, the customer will not tolerate there force full behavior.
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by kviper290 December 4, 2008 10:29 AM PST
I also just found out about this ridiculous scam. I was very excited about upgrading my phone in three days, but when I went to the local Verizon store this morning, I was told that I would have to spend at least an extra $30/month on a data plan that I will not use. I'm either at home or work with internet access 90% of the time, so why would I want the data plan? I called customer service and was told that there is no way around the requirement, and that no discounts on the data plan are authorized. I even threatened to leave Verizon for a carrier that will give me the phone I want with the features I want but no avail. Even the customer service rep I spoke with thought that this is a stupid idea. Unless this e-arm-twisting is undone, I will not see my fourth anniversary with Verizon. I'll go to AT&T who will let me have the phone I want without an extraneous data plan.
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by nemanator December 14, 2008 12:26 AM PST
Goodbye Verizon. One mandatory data plan lost 3 subscribers from this household.
My story is like the above posts with a twist.

I was Airtouch 1997 - 2000 and then Verizon 2000 - present. This was my loyalty. Where's theirs?

I ordered the Omnia a few days back from a very nice sales rep. I was attempting a new every two. I asked if I could keep my data block. She said let me check, fumbled around on some screens.... "it's not letting me" and some "let me try something else" and then she said, "no problem". I mentioned that the web interface wouldn't allow me to purchase without the data plan and how I thought that was odd.

I went to activate it and I was asked which data plan was I going with. I mentioned that it was supposed to be blocked. I was then told about the Nov 14th new smartphone "make your customers unhappy plan. BTW, this is a brilliant thing to do during a recession because everybody want's to waste $30/month.

Apart from spending 3 hours getting my active sync going and importing contacts and adding games and general familiarization of the new interface, I also had ordered accessories for this phone. I'm probably going to eat that because time and shipping will make it not worth it.

I would love to have Verizon apologize for the sales rep lying to me about the data block for my new smartphone. I would love to return this phone and get a adjustment on my bill because they cost me time and money because that sales rep. But there's no option for me on verizon.... I want to simply sync my calendar so I don't miss meetings and play an occassional game on my smartphone.

Geez...
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by ronsimo January 13, 2009 9:18 PM PST
The others have already said it. After many years, so long Verizon. Forcing the customer to pay for something not needed is not the way to stay in business. Hello AT&T.
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by pheenicks January 28, 2009 12:37 PM PST
What a bunch of crybabies. Whining about having to pay for a data plan. Stating you get your wifi access from hotspots that probably cost you nothing more than the charge for a cup of coffee and breakfast if even that. Obviously not everyone never travels outside an 8 block radius, never having to pay for wireless internet use. Someone pays to give you that "free" access, ya bums.

Those of us that DO want a reasonable cost (hopefully) unlimited data plan are thrilled to hear that V&V (that's Verizon slash Vodafone for those of you that are behind on yesterday's news) is at least listening to the consumers and attempting to give us something that will make us happy.

If you idiots had any sense as to what you should gripe about it would be to gripe about having to pay for a voice plane just to get a a data plan. Because smart folks find ways to dodge voice calling features by making use of voip phone software that you can use on your mobile phone or mobile computing device (available if you know where to find it).

But most of you don't really care what you gripe about, just so long as you have something, anything to gripe about.
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by DeBar1 July 10, 2009 6:57 PM PDT
I know it's been a few months but I still wanted to respond.
You said it yourself "Obviously not everyone never travels outside an 8 block radius". And the fact is that you must understand that the opposite is true then. You go on to infer that everyone should eat some of the costs so that these plans can be unlimited for those who want them. You finish calling everyone idiots for not wanting this FEATURE added to their plans by saying that they should let you remove the PLAN because you can get around making voice calls.
The point is that people want a choice for a feature, that's it.
As far as me personally I carry a phone on the lowest plan with text/pix and have an aircard. Personally I would like the Ozone without the data package, because I do find that "most" areas do have WiFI and I almost always have my netbook with me for where there isn't. Personally I have been planning on getting Verizon's MIFi rev a router. I personally think that is small enough that anytime I want to connect using any of my wifi electronics (Still considering Ozone, Netbook, Laptop, Archos, dvr, etc) I can just turn it on and go with everything, without spending $6 on a coffee.
That's my personal opinion on the subject of not being given a choice. I will personally have a rav a router from them to use with it. Ok I think I have made my point about my opinion and you should be permitted to have yours.
I will tell you that As you stated there is always something to gripe about and although this REALLY bugs me I think as a company Verizon has been great, I can't beet the coverage almost anywhere I go and they do have a rapid expansion. Most people who leave because of something like this end up back, as someone said they had, because by the time the get set up with the new provider things like this get taken care of and it comes back to "My phone worked here before" type comments.
by HP_007 July 15, 2009 2:41 PM PDT
i agree with DeBar1 the fact is that people want a CHOICE whether or not they want the service! that's great if you are thrilled to hear it but everyone does not want this. It's like if you went to buy a car just because you want to pay extra for a more powerful engine or a different interior does NOT mean that those options should be forced upon everyone.

Please consider what you are posting before you call everyone idiots in the future.
by March 2, 2009 9:04 AM PST
Dear pheenicks'
Go cash your verizon check and throw your money away. I have software for work that I sync with my data base. I have no desire to pay another $360/year for having a phone that works with my work software.
this is bull. I have no desire to piggyback other users but do I need an internet for my computer, my laptop and my phone? This is just Verizons way of saying I haven't been getting my share of your money. Good point about the data/voice plan but you are still wrong.
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by redurham March 4, 2009 2:01 AM PST
This an actual copy of e-mail I sent to Verizon customer service. And the reply I received back.
And my reply to their reply. No reply yet to my reply. Did yall get all that Ha Ha.

This is not as much a question as a it is a grievance. And it actually falls under Phones and Accessories as well as Plans. I have been waiting patiently for upgrade eligibility as well as for Verizon to come up with a phone w/ at least a 5 MP camera phone. Low and behold the Samsung Omnia has arrived. And for only $99 online w/ my annual upgrade price. Now I am being told that I can't purchase this phone unless I upgrade to a PDA plan for $30 more per month. What a rip off. I don't want web and email just a good camera phone. I have deactivated service with Verizon twice for similar reasons and only came back this time due to the number of people I know who are using Verizon. Which is getting less by the way.
I have checked with ATT, T-Mobile, and Sprint and none of them are requiring me to purchase more expensive plans to get the equipment I want except for ATT with the IPHONE. But that another story in itself. So now I must choose to either stay with Verizon for another two years and be stuck with a subpar 3.2 MP camera and hope that you eventually see the light and either drop these control freak policies you have or get a decent camera phone that doesn't require the purchase of PDA or Blackberry plans. Or come December when my contract is up, I gues I'll move on AGAIN to someone who doesn't hamstring me on equipment. The bottom line is I want the OMNIA and I don't want to have to pay $30 more per month to get it probably along with thousands of other possible customers out there. So, please let me know if there is any way to resolve this issue wihtout leaving Verizon.

Many Thanks,

Rob

Updated on Mar 2, 2009
This was the response I received back from verizon and my reply back to them.

Dear Penni Durham:

Good evening Ms. Durham. Please accept my apologies for our delay in responding to you. My name is Renee, and it would be my pleasure to assist you with your grievance against our policy for Smartphones and PDA devices.

Ms. Durham, when we put policies in place, such as a data plan for these kind of devices, it is to prevent your bill from skyrocketing, when performing data related functions.

However, if you wish, you may purchase the Samsung Omnia, and block National Access. This will prevent the data charges from accruing. However, please be aware that if you add this feature, you will be unable to send and receive picture messages.

Thank you for allowing me to serve you this evening.

Sincerely,

Renee

Verizon Wireless

Customer Service

Thank you for submitting your feedback!

Renee,

Thank you for your response. However, it still does not address the
issue. The problem is that if I try and order this phone Online to get
the annual discount, I am required to add either the $30 or $40 data
access to my monthly voice plan in order to do so. There is no option to
purchase this phone without comitting to one of the PDA plans. I went to
the verizon store and was told by the salesperson that there was no way I
could purchase this phone without adding the one of the PDA plans even if
I paid full price for the phone. I have also been told by someone who
bought their phone from another individual and the tried to activate it
with a voice plan only that Verizon would not allow them to get service
for the phone unless he also purchased a PDA plan along with the Voice
plan. So, are you saying that I can purchase the Omnia and activate it on
my current voice plan for voice use only as long as I block Nationwide
Data Access? If so, that is fine with me, as I don't do text or picture
messages. But, how do I accomplish this if the website does not give me
the option and the salespeople don't seem to know about this.

Thanks,

Penni
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by redurham March 5, 2009 1:23 PM PST
And below is the final response form a different Customer Service Rep at Verizon. My question is if Verizon is implementing this policy of requirimg the purchase of a data plan w/ PDA phones such as the Omnia because they are "concerned that people's bills will skyrocket" then why are they allowing you to purchase the older PDA phones listed below in this e-mail without the data plans. I call foul. In my opinion Verizon saw what ATT did with the IPhone and decided Guess what, why don't we do the same thing and make even more money by doing this with all of our PDA phones. But thats just my opinion, and everyone knows what opinions are like.




Good morning, thank you for contacting Verizon Wireless and being patient while waiting on a response to your e-mail. Verizon Wireless appreciates all your questions and concerns. My name is Monica, and I am happy to assist you with answering your question regarding upgrading your handset to a Samsung Omnia.



I attempted to call you today to resolve your account concerns, but I was unable to reach you. I apologize for the mis-communication, but you would not be able to get the Samsung Omnia without the data package. We offer some similar type handsets that you may purchase and we can add the National Access Block and you would not have to worry about data charges. This would be our LG Voyager or our LG Dare.



We do offer some data handsets that you may purchase and are not required to add the data feature.



Activations and upgrades to our existing PDAs will not require a data plan/feature of $29.99 or higher. The following devices (launched before 11/14/2008) are not subject to this policy and do not require an unlimited data feature:



Palm Centro

Motorola Q/Q9m/Q9c

Palm Treo 700w/wx

Samsung SCH i760

Samsung SCH i830

VZW SMT 5800

VZW XV 6800

VZW XV 6900

VZW PN ? 820



Also, the password you provided does not match password we have on file for your billing system account. If you are unsure of the verification information needed, please contact Customer Service at 800-922-0204 or dial *611(send) airtime free from your wireless phone. We will be able to verify secondary information with you to ensure the security of your account.



Again, I apologize for the mis-communication. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to assist you today. We appreciate your business and thank you for using Verizon Wireless. Should you have additional questions or concerns, please reply to this e-mail.



Sincerely,



Monica

Verizon Wireless

Customer Service
by lucascnet March 4, 2009 9:54 AM PST
Like Penni did, If you want to see a change in this policy you need to let them know how you feel.

Contacting customer service (Dial *611 from your cell phone (800) 922-0204) will at least alert them of the number of people dissatisfied with this new policy, but even the supervisor?s don?t have any power. It is probably best to send an email to their complaint department. The link is under Contact Us -> Send an email

Whether you agree or disagree with the need for a data plan with a pda phone, the removal of choices by any company should always be viewed with concern.
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by lucascnet March 20, 2009 5:03 PM PDT
For those of you who might have missed it, Daniel B has posted a link to FCC's complaint page over on Boygeniusrepot. He feels that Verizon's policy might violate the Open Access Rule they had to sign to use part of the public spectrum. It only takes about 5 minutes to do and will hopefully have some impact.

I've also started a "Stop Verizon Wireless' Mandatory Data Plan" petition at PetitionSpot and ThePetitionSite, but really consider that to be a futile gesture.
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by xenidus July 14, 2009 3:09 PM PDT
BLARG!!! My rage at this required data plan has been slowly but surely climbing in conjunction with my 3 year old phone's aging. I'm depressed that in 8 or so months they haven't yet realized the ridiculousness of their data plan decision.
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by xenidus July 14, 2009 5:21 PM PDT
BLARG!!! My rage at this required data plan has been slowly but surely climbing in conjunction with my 3 year old phone's aging. I'm depressed that in 8 or so months they haven't yet realized the ridiculousness of their data plan decision.
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by xenidus July 14, 2009 5:29 PM PDT
Bad internet is bad. Sorry
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by cavalon July 21, 2009 7:02 PM PDT
Hi, I've read all the posts up to this point, and just wanted to let everyone know that AT&T is NOT better. I've been with AT&T (prior Cingular) since 1999 and have never been more upset with them than now. We upgraded our phones in March 2009 but in order to get a decent price on my Samsung Eternity I had to agree to a 6 month data plan. On my daughter's phone (samsung propel), I didn't have to. (I won't even go into the customer service horror story we had getting correct service set up after the upgrade because that's another story, but it was awful... spent more time talking to service reps than I did my family! I thought the phone was going to grow attached to me ear! LOL...) Anyway, on both our phones there are "data usage" charges every month even though she doesn't use the internet on hers. (Its like every 4-6 hours and a small amount of kb/sec). According to at&t its the phone trying to update and nothing they can do about it except put a data block or we can pay for a data plan. (that's not a good option because then she can't send pics with text messages... a service that we are paying for!). They advised us to call Samsung, which we did. Samsung said that any firmware updates are not supposed to be charged by the carrier but there was nothing they could do about it. Anyway after much wasted time with customer service reps, we are done with At&t when this contract is up. (I"m not sure what we are going to do, as it seems all the major cell phone companies are adopting these "just add more services" policies. Since its more than a year away maybe things will have changed by then).
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by bensbabe4000 August 3, 2009 6:47 PM PDT
This is the beginning of the end for Verizon. I have been a customer for years and have noticed increasingly aggressive tactics & trickery in their business practice. When I recently signed up to renew my 2-yr contract, wthout a data plan, I started accumulating data usage - So I GUESS I can understand their reasoning for requiring a data plan. However, this was not a smart phone! The charges were in fact valid - but were in my opinion unfounded. I used Get It Now to search for a ringtone. The browse cost $50. Previously they charged me for airtime as opposed to MB. As less people are exceeding minutes these days, Verizon has more profit potential in charging per MB. What's infuriating is that they do not have to provide any detail on MB usage - if it is on your bill, it is valid. Furthermore, the customer cannot block it without losing out on a separate paid feature. And how clever is their terminology.. referring to it as ?MB? usage?classifying it as ?data? on the bill. The terminology needs to be clearly defined, classified, and billed as INTERNET usage. The kicker for me is that they got away with this policy change w/o getting my attention b/c they waited for a contract renewal. New contract + new phone = how will customers know which variable to blame for the new charges? Consider this: The vz navigation app costs $10/ month. Who in their right mind would assume that if they?ve agreed to pay $10/month, a nice chunk of change, that there could possibly be additional charges? If the app is NEVER used again, you still pay $10/month, but if and when it is used by a customer with no data plan, they will pay not only the $10, but also for each MB accumulated as if they were on the internet for the duration of each trip for which it was used! I don?t mind if they capitalize on people who don?t read the contract, but I?d venture to say that even those who do read the fine print are likely to be fooled. It is worth mentioning that I was getting callbacks as opposed to return emails regarding the matter when I contacted them. I suspect that they do this b/c there is no ?paper trail.? Very slick if indeed true. I think it?s only a matter of time before they get a dose of reality & I hope soon.
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by penguinhomeboy August 5, 2009 1:31 PM PDT
I think it is quiet absurd that Verizon is forcing people to do this. My sister works for VZW and I asked it what the hell was up with being forced to have a data plan. She told me the reason they are doing it, is to many people did the pay per kilobyte and had outrageous bills, and than called Verizon demanding they fix there bills. It was not just a few people, it were thousands upon thousands of customers who actually had this happen. So to prevent this from happening they just decided to make it policy. So if you really think about it, stupid people forced them to do this. No matter what they did, people will no be happy. If they got rid of pay per kb or mb whatever it is, and said you either get a plan or it will be disabled from your phone. People would complain and say that not fair. I do think phones that are out the the Samsung Omnia that have wifi, there should be a choice. If you do not want data service, it should be disabled and you can just use the wifi connection.
I think the best thing to do was just to get rid of the pay per kb and it's either all or nothing.
My big issue, is I want the Omnia, but I want to keep my LG Dare. I want to be able to switch back and fourth every few months. The LG Dare is not really a great for for surfing the net.
I wonder how many customer vzw has to lose before the realize this was a bad idea
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by Dv95 October 24, 2009 8:12 AM PDT
Starting Nov. 14 all smartphones and pda's have to get either a 29.99/month or 44.99/month plan. This is such bull. But although you are saying bye to verizon and saying you're switching to Att or T-mobile, they have the same policy. Their smartphones (windows mobile phones) also so require a 29.99/month plan. And this really sucks for verizon customers (like me) because honestlly, most of verizon's phones (excluding BB's and smartphones) really do suck. Verizon has the worst phones and I hope verizon will fail and be bought by a better company. Although all major phone carriers like att and tmobile require the data plans too.
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by Dv95 October 24, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
Starting Nov. 14 all smartphones and pda's have to get either a 29.99/month or 44.99/month plan. This is such bull. But although you are saying bye to verizon and saying you're switching to Att or T-mobile, they have the same policy. Their smartphones (windows mobile phones) also so require a 29.99/month plan. And this really sucks for verizon customers (like me) because honestlly, most of verizon's phones (excluding BB's and smartphones) really do suck. Verizon has the worst phones and I hope verizon will fail and be bought by a better company. Although all major phone carriers like att and tmobile require the data plans too.
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by FITFEM4EVR November 20, 2009 1:59 PM PST
My comments may not be popular or relevant to those who use Blackberry's, etc but to the people of my ilk it may hit home. I checked out the Droids offered by Verizon and decided that I had no need for all of that service. I went back to checking out the regular cell phones online. I compared and whittled it down to the enV Touch. I was informed that I could NOT get my phone of choice unless I added a data package to the purchase of that phone. It is a major rip off for people that have no need for the data package. Sure it is as low a $9.99 but if I dont use it why pay for it? Another side note is that the $9.99 package is for minimum data usuage so eventually you would upgrade to the $30. package. The enV Touch is not a new phone nor is it a pda....I feel it is a major rip off to force it down your throat if you don't need it but want that particular CELL phone. The LG chocolate phone was offered in it's place but that one is only a touch screen with a virtual keyboard. The enV Touch has a keyboard which is more desirable to me. Bottom line as I mentioned it is a MAJOR rip off for the average cell phone user.
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