March 20, 2008 10:04 AM PDT

Sony confirms imminent BD-Live upgrade for PS3

by John P. Falcone
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Sony PlayStation 3

The PS3 is about to become an even better Blu-ray player.

(Credit: CNET)

The next firmware update to the PlayStation 3 will add full Profile 2.0 compatibility to the game console's Blu-ray player. Sony hinted that the update would be coming during January's Consumer Electronics Show, but today's announcement confirms that it will arrive before the end of March. If it goes according to plan, the update would make the PS3 the first Blu-ray player to offer Profile 2.0 (or BD-Live, as it's also known). Profile 2.0 will add online features to compatible Blu-ray discs, the first two of which--The Sixth Day and Walk Hard--are scheduled to hit store shelves in April. Its addition to the spec finally brings Blu-ray's feature set in line with HD DVD players, all of which were built from the start to be able to access online content (though, to be fair, the feature wasn't widely employed on many HD DVD movies).

While most Blu-ray players can be updated to address bug fixes and disc incompatibilities, the PS3 is alone among current players with its ability to be upgraded to the Profile 2.0 standard. (That's why it remains the most highly recommended Blu-ray player on CNET--even for prospective users who aren't gamers.) The only other 2.0 players that have been announced are the Panasonic DMP-BD50 (due in April) and the Sony BDP-S550 (coming this autumn), both of which are expected to cost at least $100 more than the entry-level PS3.

In addition to enhanced Blu-ray support, the PS3 2.20 firmware is expected to include a number of other enhancements, including better DivX and WMV file support, better integration with the PSP, and improved Web browsing. Full details are available at Sony's PlayStation Blog.

John P. Falcone covers home theater and network entertainment products. He's been writing for CNET since 2002.
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Will the PS3 be able to play DTS_HD
by He_brewHammer March 20, 2008 10:56 AM PDT
Has anyone heard any word on the PS3 being able to play DTS_HD 7.1? And can it play Dolby TRUE HD? If not, can this be done through a firmware update or will it never be able to do so without a hardware change? Thanks.
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Will the PS3 be able to play DTS_HD
by He_brewHammer March 20, 2008 10:56 AM PDT
Has anyone heard any word on the PS3 being able to play DTS_HD 7.1? And can it play Dolby TRUE HD? If not, can this be done through a firmware update or will it never be able to do so without a hardware change? Thanks.
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PS3 does do DolbyTruHD
by monsterduc1000 March 20, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
From what I have read, you have to transmit the dolby truhd signal via hdmi/pcm to a receiver capable of decoding it in order to get the truhd sound as the ps3 does not yet decode truhd internally. I have not tried it as I do not have an hdmi receiver as of yet (waiting for the denon3808 to come down in price.
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RE: ps3 does do dolby truHD
by He_brewHammer March 20, 2008 7:30 PM PDT
Really? That's funny. I just got that exact receiver. So I'm really eager to try out these new audio formats. I really want to hear DTS HD. I've always been a big fan of it. Well thanks for the response. I appreciate it.
you got it wrong
by namronnewman March 21, 2008 2:36 AM PDT
PS3 can internally decode dolby truhd. Currently it cannot decode dts-hd, however it appears that it will be coming sometime soon. It cannot bitstream either.
You won't be disappointed
by Orbitalint March 21, 2008 9:23 AM PDT
I just pulled the trigger on the Denon 3808. Saved awhile for it but I am loving it. I can't describe how much it brings out of my music and movies. There are things I have never noticed. I think the PS3 and 3808 will make a good combo for many years to come!
PS3 does do DolbyTruHD
by monsterduc1000 March 20, 2008 12:18 PM PDT
From what I have read, you have to transmit the dolby truhd signal via hdmi/pcm to a receiver capable of decoding it in order to get the truhd sound as the ps3 does not yet decode truhd internally. I have not tried it as I do not have an hdmi receiver as of yet (waiting for the denon3808 to come down in price.
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RE: ps3 does do dolby truHD
by He_brewHammer March 20, 2008 7:30 PM PDT
Really? That's funny. I just got that exact receiver. So I'm really eager to try out these new audio formats. I really want to hear DTS HD. I've always been a big fan of it. Well thanks for the response. I appreciate it.
you got it wrong
by namronnewman March 21, 2008 2:36 AM PDT
PS3 can internally decode dolby truhd. Currently it cannot decode dts-hd, however it appears that it will be coming sometime soon. It cannot bitstream either.
You won't be disappointed
by Orbitalint March 21, 2008 9:23 AM PDT
I just pulled the trigger on the Denon 3808. Saved awhile for it but I am loving it. I can't describe how much it brings out of my music and movies. There are things I have never noticed. I think the PS3 and 3808 will make a good combo for many years to come!
*yawn*....
by MadLyb March 20, 2008 12:57 PM PDT
Just what I need is another device that does crap I have no desire for.
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*yawn*....
by MadLyb March 20, 2008 12:57 PM PDT
Just what I need is another device that does crap I have no desire for.
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Not the Upgrad but the fact that you can upgrade
by slickmachines March 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT
This may be a yawner but I love the fact that the PS3 is able to receive software updates, whether it's for improved movie watching or better software for games.
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Not the Upgrad but the fact that you can upgrade
by slickmachines March 20, 2008 1:20 PM PDT
This may be a yawner but I love the fact that the PS3 is able to receive software updates, whether it's for improved movie watching or better software for games.
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To monsterduck and the brew...
by stuntman_mike March 21, 2008 6:26 AM PDT
the PS3 internally unpacks or decodes Dolby True HD and then sends it out as lossless PCM to your receiver. What the PS3 will not do is send packed Dolby True HD via bitstream to your receiver so that your receiver can unpack or decode it.

The only real difference is that if you have a receiver that can decode Dolby True HD, it will never light up and tell you that it is playing Dolby HD, it will only say multi-PCM, because that is all it will ever get from the PS3.

Although some sticklers say that it is better to have the receiver decode than the player, it should be the same in terms of sound quality.

As far as DTS MA, the PS3 can not decode or send it via bitstream so all you can get for now have the PS3 extract the DTS digital track from the DTS MA track.

It is highly unlikely that the PS3 will ever be able to send the packed HD tracks via bitstream for your receiver to decode, via a firmware update. It has been mentioned that it it could be possible to add an on board decoder for DTS MA via an upgrade though. We will have to wait and see.
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To monsterduck and the brew...
by stuntman_mike March 21, 2008 6:26 AM PDT
the PS3 internally unpacks or decodes Dolby True HD and then sends it out as lossless PCM to your receiver. What the PS3 will not do is send packed Dolby True HD via bitstream to your receiver so that your receiver can unpack or decode it.

The only real difference is that if you have a receiver that can decode Dolby True HD, it will never light up and tell you that it is playing Dolby HD, it will only say multi-PCM, because that is all it will ever get from the PS3.

Although some sticklers say that it is better to have the receiver decode than the player, it should be the same in terms of sound quality.

As far as DTS MA, the PS3 can not decode or send it via bitstream so all you can get for now have the PS3 extract the DTS digital track from the DTS MA track.

It is highly unlikely that the PS3 will ever be able to send the packed HD tracks via bitstream for your receiver to decode, via a firmware update. It has been mentioned that it it could be possible to add an on board decoder for DTS MA via an upgrade though. We will have to wait and see.
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Exactly...
by will2348 March 21, 2008 6:31 AM PDT
I completly agree that it is the fact you can upgrade not the upgrade actually i don't think that the upgrade will be that much use to most of us.
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Exactly...
by will2348 March 21, 2008 6:31 AM PDT
I completly agree that it is the fact you can upgrade not the upgrade actually i don't think that the upgrade will be that much use to most of us.
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DTS MA is coming to the PS3
by dfichtner March 21, 2008 9:06 AM PDT
DTS Master Audio is coming to the PS3. This has been confirmed by a Sony insider on two other popular internet sites. In fact, it may be here by summer.
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DTS MA is coming to the PS3
by dfichtner March 21, 2008 9:06 AM PDT
DTS Master Audio is coming to the PS3. This has been confirmed by a Sony insider on two other popular internet sites. In fact, it may be here by summer.
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Yay! (Best if shouted in a Zoni voice)
by Scott Gardener March 21, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
The addition of DTS Master Audio support is bigger news perhaps than Blu-Ray Profile 2.0, though both are very welcome news, meaning that the PS3 remains the best and most powerful Blu-Ray player on the market. For the price of an ordinary Blu-Ray player, you get a media server with a built in upgradable hard drive, one that can store days worth of music and video internally. And, that's without even going into its being the only console more powerful than the X-Box 360 short of a $4000+ custom Falcon Northwest Mach V.

Now, if Logitech can put out a universal remote that includes a Bluetooth antenna, we'll have it made.
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Yay! (Best if shouted in a Zoni voice)
by Scott Gardener March 21, 2008 10:12 AM PDT
The addition of DTS Master Audio support is bigger news perhaps than Blu-Ray Profile 2.0, though both are very welcome news, meaning that the PS3 remains the best and most powerful Blu-Ray player on the market. For the price of an ordinary Blu-Ray player, you get a media server with a built in upgradable hard drive, one that can store days worth of music and video internally. And, that's without even going into its being the only console more powerful than the X-Box 360 short of a $4000+ custom Falcon Northwest Mach V.

Now, if Logitech can put out a universal remote that includes a Bluetooth antenna, we'll have it made.
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Blu-Ray consortium members: BURNED!
by lorax1284 March 21, 2008 7:31 PM PDT
So, Panasonic, LG, Sharp, and the rest all have to compete with Sony's PS3... they all contribute to the victory of BR over HDDVD, and who gets the benefits? Sony, Sony, Sony!

You'd have to be a moron to buy a stand-along BR 1.1 player for $600 when the $400 PS3 is 'future proof'... and while there are indeed lots of morons out there, Sony's got all these consumer electronics companies drinking toxic kool-aid to establish the Blu-Ray market, then undercuts them at every turn, while taking a license fee on every Blu-Ray player and disc sold.

How is all this "better" for the consumer, again? If its "better" is because of less consumer confusion, frankly, I think the consumers were better off confused.
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Blu-Ray consortium members: BURNED!
by lorax1284 March 21, 2008 7:31 PM PDT
So, Panasonic, LG, Sharp, and the rest all have to compete with Sony's PS3... they all contribute to the victory of BR over HDDVD, and who gets the benefits? Sony, Sony, Sony!

You'd have to be a moron to buy a stand-along BR 1.1 player for $600 when the $400 PS3 is 'future proof'... and while there are indeed lots of morons out there, Sony's got all these consumer electronics companies drinking toxic kool-aid to establish the Blu-Ray market, then undercuts them at every turn, while taking a license fee on every Blu-Ray player and disc sold.

How is all this "better" for the consumer, again? If its "better" is because of less consumer confusion, frankly, I think the consumers were better off confused.
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