When will Toshiba put out a Blu-ray player?
Picture this: an HD DVD fan's ultimate nightmare.
(Credit: CNET Networks)Today's Wall Street Journal has an interview with Atsutoshi Nishida, Toshiba's chief executive, that's kind of interesting for what it doesn't say. The article's headline is "Toshiba's Plan for Life After HD DVD" and the Q&A appears in the "Boss Talk" column, which seems to put executives in a warm seat rather than a hot seat. By that I mean there are a couple of hard-hitting questions ("Isn't the loss of the format war a blow to Toshiba's strategy?), but after you're through with the piece, you get the feeling that the interviewer, Yukari Iwatani Kane, really let Mr. Nishida off the hook.
Personally, I don't really care how Mr. Nishida spends his free time, but I am kind of curious what his thought process was when he decided to go to war with Sony. If you remember, over a year ago there was actually a moment when Toshiba and Sony were in negotiations to settle, but in the end they just couldn't come to an agreement on a unified format. I would have asked Mr. Nishida whether he regrets not making a deal earlier--and why he thought he could win in the first place. I also would have inquired what his plans were for a standalone Toshiba Blu-ray player. I mean, if you're going to ask him what Toshiba's plans are for life after HD DVD, you've got to ask if a Blu-ray player is in the works--especially a BD-Rom drive for Toshiba's laptops. Make him answer the question, right?
Well, without having the question asked, Mr. Nishida did answer in so many words that no Blu-ray player was imminent. He basically said that Toshiba would combat Blu-ray by selling upconverting DVD players that would cost less than Blu-ray players and be just as good. The exact quote: "And we're going to improve this [upconverting feature] even more, so that consumers won't be able to tell the difference from HD DVD images." That so? Well, what was the point of the war in the first place then? Jeez, Louise.
Anyway, I don't expect to see a Toshiba Blu-ray player in 2008, but Toshiba may change its tune in 2009. What do you guys think? Can Sony and Blu-ray be beat by cheaper upconverting players? Is DVD still the future?
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BTW, supposedly, Toshiba was willing to go Blu earlier, but it was Microsoft who encouraged them to keep on fighting.
BTW, supposedly, Toshiba was willing to go Blu earlier, but it was Microsoft who encouraged them to keep on fighting.
I have also experimented with burning HD content on conventional DVD discs with great success. I am able to drop .m2t transport streams into ULEAD (now COREL)Media Studio Plus DVD burner software and get about 23 minutes per single layer disk.
By rendering (in Sony Vegas) program stream .mpg files about 40 minutes can be recorded.
And, yes, the up conversion of standard DVDs is the bvest i have ever seen.
If you see any out ther at discontinued prices, it might be worth grabbing one.
I have also experimented with burning HD content on conventional DVD discs with great success. I am able to drop .m2t transport streams into ULEAD (now COREL)Media Studio Plus DVD burner software and get about 23 minutes per single layer disk.
By rendering (in Sony Vegas) program stream .mpg files about 40 minutes can be recorded.
And, yes, the up conversion of standard DVDs is the bvest i have ever seen.
If you see any out ther at discontinued prices, it might be worth grabbing one.
So this might be the first war that is won yet a company never recoups or ends up making any money with the format.
Today, in Costco, i seen a stack of about 600 Toshiba upconverting players, 1080P quality using plain ol DVD discs which people know and love, and can play everywhere even in peoples homes who have no HD. They were selling at $69, next to the Sony upcoverting model selling at $79, nect to the HD-DVD units also selling for $79, with free hdmi and 2 movies, LOL
Then there were a few BluRay machines, just sitting there for over a month with dust on them priced for $379, not actually selling.
So if you ask me, Toshiba might have lost the format war, but by making Sony spend so much, it can now afford to undercut Sony on other products while Sony struggles to just get people excited about BluRay to sell millions of units to recoup the half a billion payoff to Warner Bros.
I think Toshiba will come out making more money in the long run without an HD format player and isn't that the point of business, to make more money?
So this might be the first war that is won yet a company never recoups or ends up making any money with the format.
Today, in Costco, i seen a stack of about 600 Toshiba upconverting players, 1080P quality using plain ol DVD discs which people know and love, and can play everywhere even in peoples homes who have no HD. They were selling at $69, next to the Sony upcoverting model selling at $79, nect to the HD-DVD units also selling for $79, with free hdmi and 2 movies, LOL
Then there were a few BluRay machines, just sitting there for over a month with dust on them priced for $379, not actually selling.
So if you ask me, Toshiba might have lost the format war, but by making Sony spend so much, it can now afford to undercut Sony on other products while Sony struggles to just get people excited about BluRay to sell millions of units to recoup the half a billion payoff to Warner Bros.
I think Toshiba will come out making more money in the long run without an HD format player and isn't that the point of business, to make more money?
If he REALLY believes that, then it speaks volumes about Toshiba's concept of TRUE High Definition. The day an electronically reprocessed 540-line DVD matches the image of a 1080-line Blu-ray on a large screen HDTV will be a cold day in hell. Why waste the R&D?
Obviously, Toshiba is still hurting from the loss of their expensive HD-DVD effort... and this guy is lashing out in frustration. We need a High Definition format; Blu-ray is it. Period. Toshiba should set a new direction to beat Sony at making better AND cheaper Blu-ray machines, not sulk over the loss with pointless rants about upconversion.
If he REALLY believes that, then it speaks volumes about Toshiba's concept of TRUE High Definition. The day an electronically reprocessed 540-line DVD matches the image of a 1080-line Blu-ray on a large screen HDTV will be a cold day in hell. Why waste the R&D?
Obviously, Toshiba is still hurting from the loss of their expensive HD-DVD effort... and this guy is lashing out in frustration. We need a High Definition format; Blu-ray is it. Period. Toshiba should set a new direction to beat Sony at making better AND cheaper Blu-ray machines, not sulk over the loss with pointless rants about upconversion.
- by 5errr March 27, 2008 4:00 PM PDT
- i want one.
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