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November 29, 2007 7:07 AM PST

Coming in 2008: GPS-enabled cameras?

by Stephen Shankland

Ricoh's G3 can accommodate a GPS module, but tigher integration is on the way.

(Credit: Ricoh)

The year of the GPS-enabled camera is nearly upon us.

So predicts Kanwar Chadha, founder of GPS chip designer Sirf Technology. "Most (camera makers) are seriously planning location-enabled cameras. The first," he said, "you'll see next year."

Chadha has a vested interest in the technology, so take that bullish prediction with a grain of salt, but don't discount his expertise, influence, and connections. And do pay attention to a new technology Sirf is developing that Chadha promises will let GPS devices find their location within 10 seconds of being switched on.

If his prediction comes true, it'll be good news for those of us who want to know where our pictures were taken as well as when.

Adding location data to photos--a technology called geotagging--is potentially useful, though some are worried about privacy implications. For one thing, you could find out where some particular photo in your archive was taken, which could be handy after your European vacation recedes into the past and all those cathedrals start blurring together. For another, you can give guided slideshows based on a map rather than a timeline. And having location data is another way of searching for photos of a particular subject.

"A location stamp is much more important than a time stamp in most cases. A year down the road, you have no idea where those pictures were taken and no way to search for location," said Chadha, who is Sirf's vice president of marketing. I'm not sure if I agree which I'd rather do without, but I would prefer to have both.

Combining the widespread use of geotagged pictures data with photo-sharing sites gives a new dimension to privacy concern: you'll have to be more careful if you don't want people to figure out where you live or your children play, for example. No doubt that could be a problem for some people, though no doubt law-enforcement agencies will love it for forensics purposes, but it's not an issue I'd get overly alarmed about.

For one thing, people will get gradually more used to the risks of public disclosure, just as they've had to for Web site postings, blogs, MySpace pages, corporate e-mail--and photo sharing as it stands today. I wouldn't be surprised if geotagging is an option you can disable in your camera, and photos-sharing sites such as Flickr and Smugmug let you keep location information private if you choose. Flickr won't even capture the information unless users specifically enable it.

But geotagging is technically challenging, typically requiring that a photographer use a PC to merge photos with location data copied from a GPS receiver. Building GPS receivers into the camera would sidestep that unpleasantness and be a significant step toward an autotagging future in which the camera adds useful metadata to photos automatically.

Based on my experience with GPS receivers, which judge location based on signals received from orbiting satellites, I was skeptical when Chadha made his 2008 prediction during an interview earlier this month.

One problem is that GPS receivers, which generally stay switched on all the time when in use, require a lot of power, whereas cameras automatically shut off to conserve it.

And if you do switch the GPS unit off to save power, there's a different problem: when you switch it back on, it takes a long time to pinpoint its location--a wait called "time to first fix." New GPS units typically take 30 seconds under the best of conditions to During that wait, the photographer might well have moved on, and the wait can last a lot longer if the satellites are obscured by trees, buildings, or other impediments.

But Chadha described technology Sirf is just unveiling that could get around the power-on, power-off problem. The basic idea is that a GPS system can simplify and speed up the process of finding its position by calculating where in the sky satellites are at a given time.

The technique lets a GPS system can find its location within about 10 seconds, Chadha said.

Software on the GPS device runs the calculations, but it must be synchronized with a PC or network service to get updated, accurate satellite position information, Chadha said. Orbital details such as friction with the Earth's atmosphere make the actual performance of the satellites harder to predict with computer models.

For a device such as a camera with limited computing horsepower, the model could run about two or three days before fresh satellite location data was needed, but a more powerful personal navigation device can go five to seven days.

"I don't believe anybody else has this kind of technology," Chadha said.

Ricoh sold a camera with an add-on GPS module, and Canon and Nikon higher-end SLR cameras can accommodate them. But so far GPS integration is rough at best. We'll check back a year from now to see if Chadha's prediction comes true.

Originally posted at Underexposed
Stephen Shankland writes about a wide range of technology and products, but has a particular focus on browsers and digital photography. He joined CNET News in 1998 and since then also has covered Google, Yahoo, servers, supercomputing, Linux and open-source software, and science. E-mail Stephen, or follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/stshank.
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Wow big deal
by megelhoff November 29, 2007 9:06 AM PST
Like I'm going to look at a picture and know where the heck this was shot based on the gps information on the print. Good Luck... But for Geo-caching now that another story, but daily life for the regular Joe? It just doesn't make sense. Just my 2 cents...
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Eh....
by LuvThatCO2 November 29, 2007 12:42 PM PST
"Like I'm going to look at a picture and know where the heck this was shot based on the gps information on the print. "

The gps info is embedded into the image so that the location of the photo can later be shown ON A MAP. You dont have to know what the actual coordinates mean.

You would think this would be patently obvious to anyone who read the story... but I guess not.
Easy-peasy
by ericwoodford November 30, 2007 10:43 AM PST
This would be great!

1. Take picture.
2. Upload to Flickr.
3. See pictures mapped. http://www.flickr.com/photos/87916290@N00/map/
We call this GPS Imaging and we have been doing it for years.
by Sensible Engineering November 29, 2007 9:58 AM PST
The power of this technology is very significant but we have been doing this for rears. see gpsimaging.com
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GPS and photography...
by MTGrizzly November 29, 2007 10:30 AM PST
I carry around a notebook and a GPS receiver with my camera
wherever I go. It involves a somewhat laborious process of
turning the GPS receiver on and off and waiting to get fixes. At
least with a separate GPS receiver, I can wait and take a fix
after I am through taking pictures, (I, primarily, take
landscapes, which hardly ever move... LOL)

I live in the Rockies and it is relatively easy to get a location fix
out here. It takes about twice as long to get a 3D fix, (which I
like to get). However, I was recently in NYC and could not get a
GPS fix, anywhere - even in Battery Park, where it seemed it
should be easy. The same limitations will apply with GPS
cameras.

GPS receivers use up batteries faster than you can replace
them. I cannot see how I would want to use my camera
batteries for something that won't necessarily work every time.
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GPS Coordinates on Photographs
by mahurshi November 29, 2007 10:38 AM PST
I really don't see the average Joe making use of long ugly numbers like "Lat: 51.499279, Lon: -0.127437" on his pictures. Maybe they could be hidden as invisible tags in the files, but they're still numbers to the eyes.

Unless of course, it actually detects what the location is tags it as "Westminster Abbey", in which case, it might be more useful.

This technology would requre a big database lookup (preferably online for the most up to date data) and that would mean more hardware on the cameras and, ultimately, additional costs.


Mahurshi
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Are you kidding?
by cameronjpu November 29, 2007 12:14 PM PST
It's metadata! It's not printed on the picture, and no, you don't get the raw coordinates, you simply tell google maps (or any other map program with an API) to look at your pictures and display them on a map. Sheesh!
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GPS Startup time
by rajid--2008 November 29, 2007 10:48 AM PST
The camera could simply attach the geotag information, once acquired, to all pictures taken since the camera was turned on. Yes, there are some cases where this may not work, but giving the configuration capability, it could be useful for a lot of people and save time waiting for the GPS to acquire.
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Nikon D2X is GPS enabled
by bgulien November 29, 2007 11:41 AM PST
Not yet inside, but with a cable and a gps you can have your
coordinates on film.
But as someone here said: what's the use for the average
snapshooter?
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I'd love to have it
by cameronjpu November 29, 2007 12:12 PM PST
I'm a casual photographer, but I think it would be awesome to pull up Google earth and see pinpoints where all my pictures are. What a great way to track a vacation!
GeoPic II already does this..
by reubenwilcock November 29, 2007 1:41 PM PST
The GeoPic II is the closest thing available to a built in geotagging device - just connect it to your Nikon DSLR and then the DLSR sees the GPS location and attaches it automatically to the pictures. No fancy software to sync it all up later, no fuss, just sits on the hot shoe or the strap and does the job. Also buffers the GPS location in case you want to use it indoors! It's made by Custom Idea (www.customidea.com).
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GPS Integrated Cameras are here now.
by gthiruva November 29, 2007 4:07 PM PST
Magellan already has the Triton 2000 handheld GPS with a 2
Megapixel camera. It's no DSLR or anything cool like that, but it is
easy and already integrated. So this is not like a hard to solve
problem here - it just takes the will of camera manufacturers to
integrate the GPS receiver into the camera.
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FYI: the link
by gthiruva November 29, 2007 4:08 PM PST
http://www.magellangps.com/products/product.asp?
prodID=1910&SEGID=425&tab=2&ajaxlink=1910
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There're some alternatives
by cybertai November 29, 2007 10:31 PM PST
Some alternatives:

1. Sony's GPS-CS1, I guess this one only works with Sony's camera

http://www.navigadget.com/index.php/2006/08/02/geotag-your-pictures-with-sony-gps-cs1/

2. ATP's Photo Finder, this one supports almost every camera, cool!

http://www.sciuridae.co.uk/technology/atp_photofinder_review.htm
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