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November 20, 2007 2:44 PM PST

Beware Black Friday laptop deals

by Dan Ackerman

Like opening weekend box office numbers to Hollywood bean-counters, the weekend shopping extravaganza known as Black Friday is read as tea leaves for the rest of the holiday shopping season (even though these initial impressions are not as accurate as they used to be).

But will it run Crysis?

Besides door-busting deals on big-screen TVs and digital cameras, one of the most-watched categories is laptops, where eager bargain hunters are looking for a sub-$500 deal. While we generally say that most super-inexpensive laptops are too underpowered to be worthwhile, Black Friday gives us a chance to sample some more expensive systems at deep discounts--at least in theory.

In practice, what we're seeing this year is extremely low-end laptops discounted even more than usual. But a $500 turkey is still a turkey at $300. We'd rather see some more $999 systems lowered to $699 or so.

Best Buy will have a Toshiba Satellite A135 (including a printer) for $229 (20 per store). We looked at a $999 configuration of the A135 earlier this year, and liked it, but the configuration available at Best Buy is very different, and about as bottom of the barrel as possible (which makes this a good place to point out that PCs can be configured radically differently, even with the same name, so shop carefully).

Even for less than a Nintendo Wii, the Intel Celeron CPU is a deal breaker, although the 512MB of RAM, 80GB hard drive, and Vista Basic OS all seem acceptable for a budget machine.

At least it's not a Celeron processor.

(Credit: BFAds.net)

Circuit City has a potentially better deal, offering a Compaq Presario with a similarly dated Intel Pentium T2310, which is at least a dual-core CPU, plus 1GB of RAM. But we still wouldn't expect much in the way of performance.

Dell is offering a low-end laptop from its Vostro line of small business PCs for $399, about $100 less than its normal price. The Vostro 1000 is saddled with a 1.7GHz AMD X2 dual-core CPU, but at least has 1GB of RAM and a decent 120GB hard drive. Also, Vostro systems offer extra customer support services from Dell, always a plus.

Wal-Mart will be offering an Inspiron 1501 laptop for $598. While the AMD X2 dual-core CPU wouldn't be our first choice, the 2GB of RAM and Vista Premium make this a decent deal. We spec'd out the same components for around $750 on Dell's Web site.

Spending a little more might be worth it.

(Credit: BFAds.net)

Our main problem with recommending any of these low-end Black Friday deals is that with dated, underpowered components, most buyers will be left unsatisfied with their system's performance. Even if used for just running basic Web and productivity apps, a modern Windows Vista system requires a certain amount of computing horsepower overhead to run efficiently, and a shopper's expectations may not be in line with the laptop they're buying.

Our current favorite bargain laptop is perfect for those who just want to surf the Web and work on office documents. It's not part of any Black Friday deals, but the Linux-powered Asus Eee PC doesn't try and act like a full-priced laptop, and for $399 makes for a perfect secondary or backup system. And, if you're looking to spend a bit more, Michelle Thatcher just put together an in-depth shootout of $1,000 laptops that may be better bargains than some of these so-called deals.

[Kudos to BFAds.net for compiling and scanning the various retailers' ads.]

New York native Dan Ackerman, a former radio DJ turned journalist, has written about technology and music for publications including Spin, Blender, The Hollywood Reporter, and USA Today. He hosts the weekly Digital City podcast and the New York edition of Editors' Office Hours. Dan's new album, Tales Out of Night School, is available now. E-mail Dan.
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Low-Priced Laptops Have A Place ...
by EscapePod November 20, 2007 6:58 PM PST
They have the "potential" to be great Linux machines.
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I bought that same toshiba laptop at Best Buy
by Bubbabags November 21, 2007 11:18 AM PST
and it works fine. I can browse the web and manage movies easily. The only problem is the battery life which lasts only about an hour and a half.
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by ritanayak86 November 17, 2008 2:28 PM PST
thanks for your valuable information,

What do you thing other's are posting all the information about black friday deals like blackfriday.com, www.ideamakesmoney.com deals.com blackfriday.info.
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by November 20, 2008 11:08 AM PST
Dan, people need to heed your advice. Not all computers are made equal - and laptops really display this fact. If people are going to sit in front of the TV and surf the net patiently, then one of the cheap laptops will do. But if they have been using a decent desktop at home or work, they'll be mad when they use the slow laptop. I think the basic test is this - don't accept less of a configuration on you laptop than you have on the desktop you like. I'm with you - I wish someone would give us dual core,2+gigs of memory and a good DVD burner - and if you'll let me dream, Windows XP - for under $400. I think they would sell and peole would be happy with the performace.

Incidentally. PC World had an article on 2008 Black Friday and mentioned
http://www.2008BlackFridayAds.com I checked them out. They are posting 2008 Black Friday Ads plus good deals you can buy now. I picked up a GPS and a friend of mine got a Wii. I'm visiting the site often, hoping to snag a laptop from a featured deal or one of their links. Again, you wrote a great article. Take care.
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by gumpz November 24, 2008 2:37 PM PST
And I happen to know a black friday shopping guide site. The unique point is
You can do keywords, stores, price searching there, which is quite useful.
http://www.3deals.com/blackfridaysale/
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by jdtenis November 27, 2008 11:00 AM PST
I saw a toshiba satellite L 305D-S5897 in walmart for $548. It seems a pretty good deal. It has 4GB of memory, 250 HD and AMD turion x2. Also on best buy they have a deal for a toshiba satellite 305D, dont know if is the same for 379.99 with 3GB and 160HD with i believe same processor. They also have the option of 4GB and 250 HD for $479.96. These deal seems a little bit better since is basically the same configuration as the walmart one just cheaper. The components of the computer seems great the only think that seems to simple is the case of the computer seems a bit cheap. I was wondering if anyone know it this is suppose to be a good deal or just an ok deal.
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by the_Principle November 28, 2008 5:19 PM PST
<a href= "http://drensrandomthoughts.blogspot.com/2008/11/cyber-monday-deals-search-for-online.html"> I saw a rpetty good list of ideas and sales both Black Friday and Cyber Monday - it wasn't compleate but it was a good idea.
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