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April 11, 2007 8:42 AM PDT

Zune 2.0 and flash Zune coming this year?

by Lindsey Turrentine
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Three Zunes

Old-school Zunes

(Credit: Microsoft)

Christmas came early today for the folks at Zune Scene--at least, if their story is true. According to the blog, a chance meeting between the undercover blogger and a Microsoft employee yielded some golden nuggets of Zune news:

Zune 2.0 coming this year. The hard drive player will be thinner with more capacity, but still with the double-shot finish (probably in a number of colors). Parts will be made at a new plant in China, implying that Microsoft won't be buying the player from Toshiba this time around.

Flash Zune coming, too. According to the report, the smaller (also double-shot) flash player will measure "3 by 1 1/4 by 1/4 inches," chock-full, top to bottom, with the flash memory. Supposedly, this leaves some room for a Wi-Fi antenna and a long, video-capable screen.

All of this sounds mighty alluring--especially the promise of a Wi-Fi-and-video-ready flash player. But the proof lies in the firmware. Unless Microsoft expands the Zune's Wi-Fi capabilities beyond the weirdly stingy Zune-to-Zune "social" world, no amount of double-shot finish will stand up to Sandisk's Sansa Connect.

Oh yeah, and no word on the Zune phone. Yet.

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Lindsey Turrentine is an executive editor at CNET.
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Very nice!!!!
by DMBoricua April 11, 2007 10:45 AM PDT
I can just see Microsoft pounding Apple to the ground with their new players. A smaller and thinner hard drive player, and also a flash memory type. Just like Apple and their iPods. That's going to be very interesting. Right now I have an iPod Nano 2GB, and I'm curious to see the flash Zune when it comes out and who knows, it might be actually better than the iPod Nano :O
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Zune 2.0 and flash Zune coming this year?
by lpoole9298 April 11, 2007 11:06 AM PDT
Who Cares!
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Turd 2.0 release soon?
by i,Jimbot April 11, 2007 11:15 AM PDT
Wow, Turd 2.0 to be announced soon. That's just great. Once again, Microsoft
will be so far behind the curve on their "innovations", mainly due to the fact that
they need to see what Apple comes out with and then try to (poorly) copy that.
By the time MS puts out Zune 2.0, Apple will be ready to release the next big
thing, and Zune will be behind again.

The good news is that Zune 2.0 will still have the ability to share songs
wirelessly with anyone else that has a Zune. Cool. So, for those 84 people out
there that bought a Zune, you just keep looking for someone else with one.
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This just in: Another product nobody cares about!
by Macsaresafer April 11, 2007 11:36 AM PDT
Zune 2.0, the ho hum continues...

MS has made billions making me too products, but those were all products that
corporate IT departments could force users to standardize on despite (or
because of - IT job security) their failings. These are music players, and IT can't
help MS here. They're going to have to do a lot better than a me too product,
especially going up against a great product like the iPod with 100 million units
out there.
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Let the flaming and trolling begin!
by phenomnaruto April 11, 2007 11:58 AM PDT
It seems that ipod heads have nothing better to od then to come in here and start bashing microsoft for their superior products.
Seems like ***** envy to me.
Or maybe they're just afraid since zune 2.0 will be a great touch screen wonder without a 600$ price tag adn a 2 year contract.
I look forward to the new Zunes, if this is true these models will definately sell, especially the flash zunes, since the flash ipods die out on you within a year =[
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600 dolllars with a 2 yr. contract
by DF4878 April 11, 2007 3:14 PM PDT
600 dolllars with a 2 yr. contract
by DF4878 April 11, 2007 3:15 PM PDT
thats dumb y you say that. that phone is better then any phone with windows mobile on it. those phones are CONFUSING to use and everybody knows it. the iphone hasnt even been out yet so dont be flamming : )
OMG NEW ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
by ddmtrackstar April 11, 2007 12:45 PM PDT
You couldn't pay me to care about that wanna be... THEY CALL IT AN I iPod competitor!!!
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Hilarious...
by whizkid454 April 11, 2007 1:14 PM PDT
I still haven't seen a WiFi iPod yet... Hmmm... Apple lagging behind Microsoft! :0 What a surprise. If this is true, I'll laugh at those iPod fanatics who are walkin' by with no way to connect to the internet. Haha. :) We'll see.
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No DVD player in iPod either
by i,Jimbot April 11, 2007 2:10 PM PDT
Yeah, neither the iPod nor the Zune have a DVD player in them. WHAT WOULD BE
THE POINT?!?! As a reminder, the Zune's wireless doesn't let you connect to the
internet either. It let's you connect to the other losers that bought Zunes. Wow.

Nice work trying to spread the FUD Phenomnaruto. My iPod Nano has been
running strong since I bought it. No probs here. I run with it every day and use
my Nike+ on it. Yeah, that won't work on your Zune either.
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HAHA... all those iPod fanatics are mad!!!
by skyline6 April 11, 2007 2:11 PM PDT
Well, i C that most of these comments are from iPod users sayg crap! WEll face it!!! your just mad cuzz thiers something better out there then the iPod. Even though the iPod is very good and i would like to get one, I would WAY rather have a Zune.
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umm lagging behind?
by DF4878 April 11, 2007 3:12 PM PDT
Apple is certainly not lagging behind microsoft. they never really have. ipods are a better mp3 player and the population knows it the word ipod is now the defualt name for mp3 player. so theres one thing and another 100 million ipods sold since they cam out i mean come on it can get any better.

I think microsoft needs to just stop. there not really selling very much of these there just trying to win over apple fans and they can't come up with any ideas so they have to switch over to apple to get some and then add some ******* things to it like wifi to send clips of songs over....thats retarded. apple is not scared and shouldn't be : )
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Apple has no reason to be scared
by make_or_break April 14, 2007 2:28 PM PDT
Apple OWNS this market.

But Microsoft has no reason to stop, either. What MSFT needs is a better leader for the Zune group, one who can provide focus for the product. They also need to do FAR BETTER programming when it comes to that awful Zune software.

I never thought I would say this, but my Zune [i]player[/i] has been a very nice device to use, once I laughed off the weak squirting implementation that Redmond chose to do. It sounds better than my 80GB 5.5G, even if it can't do as many things. With vids, the screen is easier on the eyes, even if it's a pain to have to convert everything into a format that the Zune will understand. And when listening to tunes, I use the Zune more than I do the HD iPod, simply because it sounds so much better. Only my 2G 8GB nano gets more use, and that's only because I still prefer flash-based over HD-based (and because it's the best-sounding iPod product, and nearly a good as the Zune in SQ).
quit hating
by jtpinhead April 11, 2007 3:58 PM PDT
Why do you want MS to quit competing? Are they hurting you?
If MS makes a better product, thats a good thing. Apples past success means nothing. They have always been behind in features. If you want proof the Archos Gmini 200 came out while the Ipods were in black and white. They never offered subscription music. The current zune interface is arguably better than the ipods. Once MS gets rid of the bulk problem the Zune can compete with the Ipod seriously. Oh yeah, for all of you who say Zune is a failure, its a first generation product. No first generation products are close to perfect.
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Variety Counts
by DMBoricua April 11, 2007 6:22 PM PDT
Well as far as you being right, DF4878, iPod is a default name for MP3 Players, and so maybe the word Zune might never be.. BUT....

I just appreciate companies out there competing. I mean, lets face it, only seeing iPods in stores might be boring, so there has to be someone else making a product exactly like (or better) than the product that's best seller in stores.

Give them a chance.

That's what it's all about. Giving everyone chances to make at least something that compares to it brings choices and excitement. I may sound cheesy but its the truth. Anyone else agree?
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I agree about competition being a good thing...
by DarkHawke April 14, 2007 11:00 PM PDT
...but I'll bypass the Zune till they stop paying "blood money" to the record companies, as if everyone who buys a DAP is a music pirate! You want a next gen media player that is head and shoulders above anything Apple's even [i]thinking[/i] of putting out? Check this puppy out: http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9706582-1.html
Yet another yet-to-be-released product, but spec for spec, I'd rather this than the iPhone, Zune 2.0 or any effin' other thing I've heard about!
OMG MICROSOFT ZUNE 2.0......ahhh who cares.
by bigdezy419 April 11, 2007 10:25 PM PDT
Nobody is buying these things...Now if they fixed the Wi-Fi connect feature then maybe they would see a turnaround.
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Ridiculous!
by patrick_i April 11, 2007 11:04 PM PDT
The iPod is popular for 2 reasons: First, it is a "must have" froo froo product,
Second, it is good at what it does... play music. Some people have argued that it
is an inferior product because it has fewer features than the Zune or other
similar products. So what? This is like arguing a Ferrari is an inferior car because
you can't take it the same places as a Jeep or a Hummer. More features does not
always equal better, just different. BTW, in the case of MS so called technical
prowess, is it really good products or are they just throwing features at you to
make up for design deficiency, eg out of MS Office's 100's (or is it 1,000's)
of features, how many do you actually use daily? In your whole life?
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The New Zune
by jazzbase April 12, 2007 1:32 PM PDT
Will it be a Playsure device?
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Better for us
by jonathantimey April 14, 2007 1:46 PM PDT
Heck, I think its great. The more these companies try to out-do each other the better products we get. Its true. Don't hate.
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Competition is good
by freeway8989 April 14, 2007 5:27 PM PDT
DMBoricua,

I totally agree.

The fact of the matter is that if there isn't any competition in the mp3 industry, then Apple would have a monopoly. And monopoly's are bad since the company can do whatever they want with their, good or bad.

But when there's competition, it eliminates the monpoly, and forces the once-dominant company--Apple in this case--to stay on its toes and to improve it product so as to keep its customers.

When there's competition, we, as customers, get better products at cheaper prices.
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Stop competing with apple and start makin your own
by c3h899 April 14, 2007 8:49 PM PDT
The zune is to far behind to compete with apple and as such use the same tech to pack more abilitys. 10 things to do:

!. Ignore Apple
2. Add stereo Bluetooth
3. MAX out hard drive space
4. Make like a smart phone with a mini-media center
5. Keep Wifi and use it like a remote for Vista
6. Text-to-Speech make it a RSS Feed Reader
7. come standerd with a TV Dock of some sort
8. Be compatible with iTunes and its DRM
9. Loose the Zune software use WMP 11
10. When in doubt increse the battery size
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#8 will never happen...
by DarkHawke April 14, 2007 11:10 PM PDT
...the last company that tried that, Real Networks, started a software war that Apple won, keeping their ironically entitled "FairPlay" DRM scheme from interfacing with the Real player (as if anyone REALLY wants to use that virus masquerading as an app!). If the Zune team had truly wanted to make a splash and entice converts from the iPod, they'd have followed through with the rumored plan to comp folks for everything they bought from iTunes with Zune-compatible versions.

As far as most of your other points, have you seen this story?: http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9706582-1.html Sounds like it'll do the job!
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