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November 9, 2009 10:00 PM PST

Ricoh goes modular for GXR camera system

by Lori Grunin
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(Credit: Ricoh)

In what has to be the oddest new camera technology announcement of 2009, Ricoh unveiled its GXR system. It's not a mirrorless interchangeable lens (dare I say EVIL?) system, as was rumored around the blogosphere, but what the company catchily calls an "Interchangeable Unit Camera," where the "Unit" in question is a lens/sensor module which slides into a housing that includes the rest of a point-and-shoot's pieces--920,000-pixel 3-inch LCD, controls, hot shoe, and flash. A tiltable EVF that fits in the hot shoe will be optional.

When it ships in the beginning of December, Ricoh plans to have the body and two camera units. Also, according to the company, it promises to deliver a new camera unit every quarter, starting with a nonspecific telephoto in the second quarter of next year.

One of the initial modules consists of a 24-72mm-equivalent f2.5-4.4 lens coupled with a 10-megapixel 1/1.7-inch sensor-shift-stabilized CCD; it supports ISO sensitivities from ISO 100 to ISO 3,200, VGA movies, and a raw burst speed of 5 frames per second for an unspecified number of frames. Essentially, with this unit the camera becomes a slightly updated version of the GX100, with the better sensor from the GR Digital III and a bump up in LCD-screen size.

The second module is a 50mm-equivalent f2.5 macro lens coupled with an APS-C-size (23.6x15.7mm) 12.3-megapixel CMOS that supports 24fps 720p video.

According to Ricoh, this architecture has a few advantages. Because the lens/sensor is a sealed unit, you don't have to worry about dust on the sensor as you might with an interchangeable lens. Ricoh expects that the system will have a variety of modules, not just cameras, including photo viewers, projectors, as well as a sort of adapter unit that could take a Micro Four Thirds lens. Finally, according to the Ricoh, this system lets it better match the characteristics of the lenses with the sensors to optimize optical paths and so on.

Ricoh's novel aperture-bladed lens cap. Please excuse the flipped photo; it's cropped from a weird Ricoh shot.

(Credit: Ricoh)

The real question is, is this brilliant or a blunder? Well, to me that depends primarily upon the pricing; and that's where Ricoh pushes it towards blunder territory. The body alone will cost $549. That's more than a complete camera such as the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 or Canon PowerShot G11. The 24-72mm unit will cost $440 (for a total camera cost of almost $1,000) and the 50mm macro unit will be a whopping $830. So the total cost of a zoom and prime package is about $1,800. In contrast, the Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF1 with the zoom and 20mm prime plus body is only $1,300. Ouch. And while it's certainly more compact than a dSLR, it's not significantly smaller than the compact Micro Four Thirds cameras. Instead, you can buy several entire cameras. That's not as clever or as compact, but it's certainly more cost effective.

However, what about Ricoh's whole deal of matching the sensor to the lens? This is a wild card. It's possible that Ricoh could eke out some optical gains from doing so; however, only time and testing will tell.

But with the GXR system, you're playing roulette. In the case of the overpriced 50mm macro unit option, you do get a large sensor, and if the lens is good, it should be a pretty nice pocket enthusiast model. But based on the spec sheet, it's likely that the 1/1.7-inch CCD paired with the 3x zoom lens will be pretty ho-hum, or maybe a solid but overpriced model for its class. At least with a dSLR or with a Micro Four Thirds camera you're buying into known characteristics of the system. Maybe Ricoh will pair its next lens, a telephoto, with an APS-C sensor; more likely, it will pair it with a small sensor to maximize the zoom prospects. Since the camera units are more complex than simply a lens, the probability of third parties jumping in to provide more options is fairly low; also, simply creating third-party adapters for existing lenses seems to defeat the purpose of matching the lens with the sensor. On the other hand, if Ricoh could make a not-obscenely priced generic APS-C module that could be outfitted with mounts for various brands of dSLR lenses, which might be cool.

And as for the additional gadget modules, is that the sort of thing that you really think about when you're looking for a camera?

I can't take a poll, so feed me in the comments. Am I missing something? Or does this sound like as much of a nonstarter to you as to me? Would it make more sense if it were a lot less expensive and targeted toward the snapshooter instead of the enthusiast?

Senior Editor Lori Grunin has been covering digital imaging for two decades, but her memory's kind of sketchy on the details. You can hear about it every week on Indecent Exposure, the podcast she co-hosts with Matt Fitzgerald.
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by jandouwes November 10, 2009 12:39 AM PST
photographyblog.com has a Ricoh-slideshow which details the system. The telephoto lens will be paired with a High-speed CMOS ("for sports scenes and decisive moments"). The choice of the 1/1.7-sensor for the standard zoom is because of versatlity ("from wide landscapes to snap shooting, a wide range of expressivenes for diverse scenes")? Given the price, the engine and/or the glass must be in a class of their own to beat the Canon G11. I think I'd go for the money, anyway.
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by bleech November 10, 2009 1:37 AM PST
Loving it!!!
This should have been from the very begining the starting point of digital imaging. About time it comes over. It is a well known fact that nowadays both the sensor and the lens are the key factors for good quality photos. In that sense, this is a no brainer: get the best sensor-lens for the given purpouse.

The cropped sensor has its advantages: Increases DOF, so making easier to have sharp images for begginers or with not that much effort.

I think that prices are spot on, regarding how extremely expensive equivalent lenses can get. And do remember that ricoh lenses tend to be nothing short of stellar. I know that the dslr makers have fast fifties, but usually they do not perform that well on the given sensors, but for the DA* 55 1.4, designed for digital photography.
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by EccoXile November 10, 2009 8:21 AM PST
I like the direction this system is going. As long as the body is solid, I wouldn't have to worry about buying a new camera every couple years to keep up with technology. Although, I would like to see the price go down, seeing as similar point and shoots are the price of the body alone. You could get a dslr for less than the whole package!
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by mishani November 10, 2009 10:52 AM PST
But you will need to buy replace your lenses to keep up with the (sensor) technology, and if you have several, that's a bigger expense than replacing the body.
by chriscooksey November 10, 2009 12:25 PM PST
very intriguing concept but I'm calling failure on this one. Again we are presented with a unique idea that will only be relegated to rich amateurs
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by karmester November 14, 2009 6:35 AM PST
You hit the nail on the head, rich amateurs... but, if you're trying to run a for-profit business and need to pick a target market, rich, amateurs or professionals, is the one to pick.
by NeilFiertel November 10, 2009 2:31 PM PST
I think the concept is absurd no matter how good the results come to be. One ought to buy a camera and its optics knowing full well that down the road when a better sensor/body comes down the pike, the lens investment already made can be mated to that new tech as optical technology moves slowly after such a long growth period and the electronics/digital sensor aspect is in its infancy. The price is absurd for this. One can buy a very decent Canon, Pentax, Nikon Dslr for the same money with proven optics and a future for the lense it comes with. Not so with this pink elephant. I suspect however in Japan there are sufficient eccentrics who buy retro cameras and other oddities to make this sell sufficiently but here in North America..not.
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by valentine39 November 10, 2009 3:07 PM PST
When COSTCO is selling near top of the line Cameras from Nikon and Cannon for less than this new Ricoh they have indees entered into the price blunder area. At least for me and I am contemplating a high end camera purchase. That is MNSHO, and I am sticking to it!!
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by bleech November 13, 2009 9:07 AM PST
It might be an opinion, but it is not a fact.
Costco is selling OVERPRICED items already.
Nevertheless, I bet that Ricoh has done its maths, and usually this is focused on the fanboy market who values the quirk thinking.

The main problem is that there are almost no lenses or lens designs for digital sensor. Most of the most sold lenses are updated designs from the film era.

What this system allows you is have COMPLETELY different cameras with very little change.
by chadley_chad November 10, 2009 3:24 PM PST
Sorry, but I just don't see the advantages this has over a good P&S like the new Canon P90 or LX3D, or a D-SLR with interchangeable lenses (again citing Canon, as second hand lenses are readily available from eBay).

I guess it might fill a gap in-between the two, but isn't this what four thirds models like the new GF1, G1 and Pentax already offer? Whatever the price, its too complicated, too much hassle and too much money (even considering the upgrade options ... which aren't practical or realistic when newer versions of the above cameras eventually come up for sale). Its a big miss!
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by Gorifyny November 10, 2009 8:55 PM PST
Does the term "epic fail" have a better candidate?
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by ianchong November 10, 2009 9:16 PM PST
Considering this rather novel Ricoh offering together with the Lumix and the Olympus micro four-third choices currently available at their respecive price points, Ricoh is certainly engaging in wishful thinking at best.

Seriously, DOES money grow on trees .... !!
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by parrythesalt November 10, 2009 11:46 PM PST
brilliant ,but can Ricoh sell enough to stay solvent? I would rather buy a Leica X1 as a walk around compact ( a fixed lens/sensor for maximum performance using aps-c).
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by Pauliex November 11, 2009 3:44 AM PST
Goodness me! They may as well have named the camera 'blunder' and put it boldly on the front of the camera (or 'Epic Fail' as someone above mentioned). What a stupid idea. Why on earth would anyone spend that kind of money when you can get a decent dSLR with a few lenses for less? The great thing about dSLRs is your investment in glass survives as the body technology improves - need a new body? Fine - get one and keep the lenses you've invested in for the new body. Frankly, I can see people buying this in a world of hurt when the body fails, and they realize they've got some lens/sensor modules that are rendered useless.
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by holtaway November 11, 2009 4:01 AM PST
I could see this working if you could get a 50mm f1.8 equivalent on it at a decent price. Then all the flickrites would be all over it for the limitless 'bokeh' potential on a point and shoot.
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by marktim November 11, 2009 10:26 AM PST
You are right. I bet they will be sorry. To me this tell me that they did not do much market research.
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by fatherrob November 12, 2009 5:37 AM PST
I admit that modern camera technology has bypassed me (I'm approaching 76 years old). I vividly remember "box cameras" and an Argus C3 was to die for . . . and through the many years have burned a lot of film . . . and am almost ashamed to admit that I don't even own a camera now; eating seems more important. In any case regarding the Ricoh . . . I sit at my computer this morning pondering why?
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by ajohanna November 13, 2009 10:24 PM PST
It certainly has possibilities and the sample photos are outstanding! Why criticize a system before seeing what it can do.
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