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November 9, 2009 10:03 AM PST

Hands-on: Netflix streaming on the PS3

by Matthew Moskovciak
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Finally: Netflix on the PS3.

Finally: Netflix on the PS3.

(Credit: Matthew Moskovciak/CNET)

The PS3 has picked up a lot of momentum as of late (thanks to price cuts, PS3 Slim, Uncharted 2), and the addition of Netflix streaming is the most recent blow in the feature-war against the Xbox 360. While Netflix streaming is nearly identical on most devices that support it, there are some significant differences with the PS3 that make it worth testing.

Unlike Netflix streaming on other devices, the PS3 requires the Netflix Streaming Disc for PS3. That means you'll need to request a disc from Netflix and it will come in the mail like a standard Netflix movie. It doesn't count against your allotment of movies allowed out and you never need to return the disc. The disc uses Blu-ray's BD-Live functionality to enable streaming, and this is by far the best use of BD-Live we've seen so far.

Once you insert the Netflix Streaming Disc, it shows up in the XMB in the video section. Select Netflix from the XMB and the experience is largely identical to streaming Netflix on other devices, with a few new features.

The main interface shows you the cover art of the movies in your instant queue, arranged horizontally. If you select a movie, it will show a screen with more detailed information, a summary of the plot, and a star rating. You're also able to scroll horizontally within the more detailed view, without having to return to the main screen. If you stop watching a movie, you're able to resume where you left off or start again from the beginning.

The step-up over standard streaming Netflix devices are the tabs at the top of the interface. With other devices, like the Roku Digital Video Player, you're only able to access movies that you've added to your Instant Queue using a PC. On the PS3, you're given some additional tabs that allow you to browse new arrivals, movies Netflix thinks you'll like, and categories you use often. That's not quite as good as the Xbox 360's Netflix interface, which allows you to add new titles to your instant queue without using a PC, but it's a welcome addition to the basic Netflix streaming available on other devices.

While we've seen some reports that the image quality of streaming Netflix isn't quite as good as it is on the Xbox 360, we didn't notice any significant quality drop-offs in our testing. In our experience, the image quality of streaming Netflix movies is basically identical across devices. We've commented extensively on the image quality in previous hands-on reports, but the main takeaway is that the content labeled "HD" is nearly DVD quality. The other content is watchable, but videophiles will definitely notice plenty of compression artifacts.

The major frustration with Netflix on the PS3 is that you need to insert the special disc to use the service. That's not the case with Netflix streaming on any other device so far and couch potatoes will complain about that extra trip to the PS3 every time they want to stream a movie.

That being said, we're willing to live with the compromise. As we understand it, the use of a disc is simply a workaround for Netflix's prior agreement with Microsoft to be the only game console with Netflix streaming as part of the software. In that case, we definitely prefer having this optional workaround to no streaming at all. (It appears that Microsoft's exclusivity deal ends in late 2010, at which time Sony can properly integrate Netflix into the software, so you won't need the disc.)

It's also worth pointing out that there's no additional cost (beyond a Netflix subscription) to use Netflix on the PS3; Xbox 360 owners need to have an Xbox Gold Live subscription, which goes for $50 a year.

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Covering home audio and video, Matthew Moskovciak helps CNET readers find the best sights and sounds for their home theaters. E-mail Matthew or follow him on Twitter @cnetmoskovciak.
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by fmusignac November 9, 2009 10:24 AM PST
One more reason the PS3 is king. I used it this weeekend and it was great. The functionality is easy and a welcomed addition to all the things the PS3 does.
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by InkyRed November 9, 2009 11:31 AM PST
I got my disc just to get it. Most likely won't have time to insert that disc as I'm constantly playing uncharted 2 and on Tuesday.....Modern Warfare 2. Deuces xbox, you P O S .
by tcr071 November 9, 2009 12:03 PM PST
Another reason PS3 is king is because they finally got a feature that the Xbox 360 has had for just about a year now? And the use of this service requires that you have to order a disc from netflix, wait for it to be delivered, and insert it into your PS3 every time you want to watch a movie??? And you can't add movies to your streaming que without popping open your computer and adding them there?

Ummm... okay. If you say so. I used it last November and it was great. I'll wait for my PS3 netflix disc to arrive in the mail just in case something happens to my Xbox 360.
by aaronb09 November 9, 2009 12:29 PM PST
"Another reason PS3 is king is because they finally got a feature that the Xbox 360 has had for just about a year now? And the use of this service requires that you have to order a disc from netflix, wait for it to be delivered, and insert it into your PS3 every time you want to watch a movie??? And you can't add movies to your streaming que without popping open your computer and adding them there?

Ummm... okay. If you say so. I used it last November and it was great. I'll wait for my PS3 netflix disc to arrive in the mail just in case something happens to my Xbox 360"


Yeah well i rather order a free disk from netflix and PAY nothing extra then have to go through Microsoft's stupid Xbox live gold membership.. So i have to pay extra to get netflix on my 360 when its free on everything els? besides it will be a firmware update later on this is just a awesome step in the right direction.. Also streaming content is easy, its call get Playnow, streams Hulu,netflix and all media content directly to the PS3.. Far as I am concerned PS3 is the king.. They offer the best features and best exclusives line up for less cost.. Plus its nice to see yet another thing Microsoft claimed they have exclusive rights too come on the PS3..
by MattC867 November 9, 2009 12:50 PM PST
@aaronB09

I always smile when I read PS3 owner posts going on about how PS3'sPlaystation Network is free while you have to pay for xbox live gold. As an owner of both systems (an honestly a person that prefers ps3 from a pure gaming stance) xbox live is far-and-away better than playstation network.

For an extra ~$3.50 a month, I'll take xbox live anyday.
by tcr071 November 9, 2009 7:56 PM PST
I would GLADLY pay $50 a year to have the Xbox Live service on the PS3. The Playstation Network is a pile of dog crap. It works and it's free but that's about all it can do, work. The $50 I spend for Xbox Live is well spent.
by chrkeller November 10, 2009 6:58 AM PST
As an owner of a ps3 and 360, I must say I will not and do not pay for Live. Is the service better than PSN, yeah it is, but not by much. I don't game online enough to care about slight differences. I think the original post is correct, the ps3 can match (or come very close) to anything the 360 can do. The reverse isn't true, especially regarding bluray, standard HD upgradable and free wifi. I love my 360 for it's exclusives, but let us be honest the ps3 has really come on strong. Hell of a system.
by extirpator November 11, 2009 7:05 AM PST
I find it interesting that some individuals are ragging on the fact it uses a disc at the moment. The disc is a stop gap put in place to by pass the exclusivity deal Microsoft payed for to get it integrated into the the xbox 360 until the exclusivity contract expires, and ultimately the user is paying for this with their xbox live fee's. Temporary payed for exclusivity is one of the common tactics Microsoft has been using to try and hold on to their lead over the PS3 this generation. Yes the navigation of some of the Live features is easier than some of the equivalents on the PS3, and I can respect individuals that feel this makes the experience worth the additional fees; however, to me the additional price if Live really isn't worth it, but sadly I still pay for it because I like the ability to play my 360 games with my friends.
by sgoodell07 November 11, 2009 8:57 AM PST
I find it interesting that people need to attach themselves in some personal way to a console, which ultimately means nothing. I guess that means that in the end, all your faithfulness and sniping at others over a company that really doesnt give a **** about you is hilarious and pointless all at the same time.

An endless source of comedy...long live the fanboy.
by evans5150 November 9, 2009 10:49 AM PST
I've ordered my disc and can't wait to get it. Watched some movies on my laptop this weekend and the quality was AWESOME! I have only owned my PS3 for 3 weeks and have it fully geared as an entertainment system! I love you, Sony!
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by cbaisa November 9, 2009 12:22 PM PST
i used my disk last night for the first time. i was really pleased with the performance and interface. i don't really mind having to add things manually to my queue since there is no extra charge as with the 360. so glad to have this on ps3 finally!
by The Noble Robot November 10, 2009 10:57 AM PST
You don't need your computer to add to your queue on the PS3. It works *exactly* like the 360 interface, where you can browse categories and either play an item or add it to your queue. The only thing you can't do is search, which you can't do on the 360, either.
by ps3fornetflix November 9, 2009 10:50 AM PST
One point missed in the articale is that you actually CAN add movies to your instant queue using the PS3 Netflix interface. To do so: 1) Browse to a catagory (e.g. comedy) and 2) select a movie 3) arrow down to the details of the movie and there should be an option to 'add to instant queue'. What you cannot do is perform a keyword search of the Watch Now library. For that, you can use the PS3 Browser login to netlix.com search and manage your account, as you would on a PC. Also, PS3 3.01 Firmware added a netflix link to the PS3 Browser for this purpose.
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by sav1981 November 9, 2009 1:12 PM PST
That is a great point. Many people forget that the PS3 has a built in browser. So what's all this about the XBox users whining about PS3 owners inserting a Netflix disc in or logging to a PC to update the que. It's not that big of a deal. I'm an XBox owner and although I enjoy Mass Effect, Halo, and Fable II I can't stand the extreme fanboys that Microsoft have created. As a value standpoint, the PS3 is no doubt the best bang your buck.
by viper396 November 9, 2009 2:03 PM PST
@sav1981 "Extreme fanboys" are hardly unique to Microsoft. Just look at some of the comment here from the Sony crowd.

...and there is nothing more hypocritical then fanboys calling others fanboys. Get a grip. Neither Sony nor Microsoft entitle you to anything just because you chose their console over another. Play and enjoy the games and stopping behaving like you work for Sony or Microsoft and need to fight their corporate battles for them.
by izmickey November 9, 2009 6:35 PM PST
@ viper396
Agree fanboys of ANY console are bad. But, you have to admit, xbox360 are worse. There are more in numbers because on many sites i usually see the xbox360 owners attacking the ps3 owners, that starts retarded system war posts. ps3 fanboys are becoming less tolerable though. I think its stupid that people who once enjoyed n64, PS1 now hate those systems/companies. Just because i prefer my ps3 over my xbox360 doesnt mean i should talk trash about my xbox360. The world would be better of without these fanboys/tools/pawns. Like you said idiots who fight corporate battles for others.
by sgoodell07 November 11, 2009 9:02 AM PST
sorry, izmickey, you killed your own argument by differetiating between xbox360 and ps3 fanboys. ALL are bad as they obviously have nothing else to cling too as they need their ego reinforced by being associated with something larger than themselves. Almost like a religion, which is scary within itself that some of these people see it like that.
by sav1981 November 9, 2009 11:04 AM PST
Yeah the 360 Netflix may look prettier, but having it on the PS3 with no additional charges is a big plus in my opinion. Also I love the fact that the PS3 has built in wireless network which allows me to view Netflix in my bedroom without the need to spend an extra $70 or $80 depending on the retailers for a wireless adapter that Microsoft should have integrated in their 360. Now I can have both the 360 and the PS3 in the living room since that's where my router is at while also enjoy watching Netflix in my own room.
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by instybob November 9, 2009 11:10 AM PST
Got mine this weekend and everything was fine. I definitely notice the quality more on my 65" now than my 32" in the bedroom with the Roku box.

Now all w need is a Sony/Hulu agreement and all will be right in the world.
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by Donniebrasco November 9, 2009 11:22 AM PST
Tried it this weekend and was impressed with how quickly things loaded and got started playing, "HD" video quality was good enough on a 46". Haven't tried a non-"HD" product yet.

I think the disc is a non-issue. Its not like I can play a game while I stream anyway and I have to put a disc in to play any other blu-ray or DVD I have. I am just happy PS3 got this added.
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by mhaven98 November 9, 2009 11:31 AM PST
My concern is the unnecessary wear and tear on the drive to run this application. Sony should add this as a downloadable application from the PS3 store (free). Why should you have to wear down your drive when you can simply download the application once and just run it off the HDD? Seems silly to need to run the disc every time I want to stream a movie. A consideration Sony should seriously look in to.
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by Donniebrasco November 9, 2009 11:37 AM PST
I am sure they will when they can address it. Most signals from Netflix and Sony point to the fact that the disc launching aspect of this solution has to do with the "exclusive" agreement Netflix had with Microsoft. I imagine once that runs out, you'll be able to download Netflix to your HD and just run it off the XMB.
by DustinLH00 November 9, 2009 11:44 AM PST
Did you not read the article? There is an exclusivity arrangement with Netflix and Microsoft. Microsoft is the only game cosole that can have Netflix integrated in it's software. By using a disc, Netflix is not integrated, therefore it is a "loophole" that allows Netflix to be on the PS3, until 2010 that is...
by sav1981 November 9, 2009 2:02 PM PST
You are misguided. The Netflix disc do not spin all the time (heck the data is only 5MB), the data is loaded on to the system memory. Think of it as a a PC game or 360 game where the game is installed to the harddrive but you still need the play disc to be able to play. It's not that big of a deal. Also this is Netflix way of incorporating their service to other consoles without infringement on their contract to Microsoft. Besides once their contract expires Sony will have Netlix app for download and it will be for free. So stop worrying. The only cost associated to you is your montly subscription fees to Netflix.
by digitalducki November 9, 2009 11:38 AM PST
it explains in the article why not. and do you think you have a solid state hard disk in your ps3? If you dont, im pretty sure your hdd spins too...
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by jedge04 November 9, 2009 11:42 AM PST
Anyone know how many discs per household allotted? We have three PS3's :)
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by Dan_DTC November 9, 2009 2:54 PM PST
Might be a dumb question since I don't own a PS3, but could you just make a copy of the disc? I am assuming that the format is DVD. I can't imagine there being any stringent anti-copy protection on this disk.
by Topspin14 November 9, 2009 6:20 PM PST
It is a Blu-Ray...because it uses BD-Live. It'll be hard to copy without a blu-ray burner. Not sure the answer to your question though.
by celticbrewer November 10, 2009 7:54 AM PST
You can definitely order more than 1, so i don't think it's an issue.

but doesn't netflix have a device limit (5?) per household? Doesn't matter if it's roku, xbox, ps3, computer, etc...
by NervClaX November 10, 2009 1:20 PM PST
Can you use the disc in one console and use the web browser to stream for the other two? Can I take my disc with me to a friend's house so we can watch a movie on his PS3?
by hynguyen02 November 9, 2009 11:46 AM PST
I might now have to put my xbox 360 to rest. The only reason I'm still using my xbox 360 is Netflix and left4dead. Since Netflix is now on PS3 too, I cannot justify paying $50 for my xbox live to play left4dead. Now, Modern Warfare 2 and God of War 3 will keep me busy for a long time with my PS3.
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by gluchow75 November 9, 2009 11:48 AM PST
Love the fact that another great addition cannot be used in Canada.
Apparently our laws and regulations don't want us to use anything legit when it comes to online downloads. Yet they complain that people are illegally downloading. Give us options at least.
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by playadel2001 November 9, 2009 12:00 PM PST
I was already using PlayOn to stream Netflix to the PS3, but I like this interface much better and the aspect ratios/picture quality seems better. Having to use the disc is annoying but not a dealbreaker.
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by PoeticPaco November 10, 2009 6:46 AM PST
I aggree 100 percent. I was also using Playon to stream Netflix but the disc is a much better experience, even if you have to pop it in the disc slot. I also agree that the video quality is superior to the Playon software. Overall, I'm very satisfied, I just wish I could get my $30 back from the Playon people! :P
by celticbrewer November 10, 2009 7:56 AM PST
agreed as well. The interface is so much better. Of course, PlayOn can stream a lot of other stuff including hulu and pretty much any RSS fed media.
by Manifest78 November 9, 2009 12:08 PM PST
I think this is a great thing for the PS3 and I ordered the disk to test it out and compare. I also have a 360 and have been using Netflix on that device for quite some time now. The UI is still taking some getting used to, although I like the larger box images.

Also the loading of the box images are dangerously close to getting frustrating and the image quality of the videos has definitely gone through a slight degrade. That said I still believe that this is a great thing for the PS3 and I hope Netflix could work something out with the Wii as well!
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by FilteredReality November 9, 2009 12:11 PM PST
This disc will only be around for a short time. They will patch something in on a later firmware update, so I wouldn't worry about it too much
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by Balloonknot November 9, 2009 12:13 PM PST
Glad to finally have in on my PS3, now I don't have to move my Xbox between tv's. As a owner and equal supporter of both - Netflix on PS3:

Pros:

Free aside from subscription
Neflix on another device
Video quality is equal to the 360


Cons:

The disc...Yes, I understand why it's necessary but it's still lame.
The interface on the 360 is much cleaner and easier to navigate.
The 360 Netflix loads alot faster in all areas...could be because im hardwired with the 360 and Wifi with the PS3

Overall:

A welcome addition to an already great system.
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by bs0425 November 9, 2009 12:47 PM PST
I used it a lot this past weekend and it worked great! Yet another reason to own a ps3. It really does everything!
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by jpm150 November 9, 2009 12:50 PM PST
This may be a really ignorant question, but since the disc is accessing NetFlix via BDLivee, is it possible that the disc work with any Blu-Ray player with a network connection?
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by atgrammer November 9, 2009 12:59 PM PST
You have a better chance of striking oil in your backyard.
by jpm150 November 10, 2009 6:40 AM PST
Well, I do live in SoCal, so the oil isn't out of the question.
by the_iceman November 9, 2009 12:58 PM PST
I think its strange that it requires a disc. I dont get why they didnt build it in the new slim models
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by atgrammer November 9, 2009 1:01 PM PST
Due to legality reasons. Netflix signed some exclusive deal w/XBOX and the disc is a work around of that deal. The deal expires in 2010 and that's when the PS3 update comes out eliminating the disc.
by ccmike72 November 9, 2009 2:15 PM PST
does nobody read the articles they clicked on before posting a comment anymore?
by whoadude1 November 9, 2009 1:02 PM PST
to mrs aaron
"Yeah well i rather order a free disk from netflix and PAY nothing extra then have to go through Microsoft's stupid Xbox live gold membership.. So i have to pay extra to get netflix on my 360 when its free on everything els?

Microsoft claimed they have exclusive rights too come on the PS3.."

can you please redefine "els" i thought he is a golfer?

anyway.....ill pay and continues to pay for the QUALITY live service. 2nd to NONE...not even the POS3...Play Behind.....

gee pot calling kettle black? wasn't Mr "I am maker of MGS4" the exclusive for POS3? WOW...didn't he JUMP ship to Microsoft cuz those PScrap programmers couldn't keep up? not to mention couldn't sell at the rate he wanted?
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by DGillz November 9, 2009 1:37 PM PST
Woah...dude. Whenever a PS3 story is published, you come running to reply to people who make disparaging remarks against your divine MS. Essentially all he was saying was he'd prefer to use netflix for free instead of paying a monthly subscription to XBL to use netflix. Then you go on to say all this b.s. about MGS "jumping ship" to MS and cute nicknames for PS3 like POS3 and so on, which has absolutely no relevance to the points he was making in his comment.

Man...get a life, a girlfriend, or something. Or at least stop trolling PS3 story comments and get back to playing your 360.
by whoadude1 November 10, 2009 6:58 AM PST
sir gillz. keep flappin them...you need to read it closer.....it was aimed at his "exclusive rights on MSFT" comment. exclusivity aint crap anymore. just the quality system I play on
by whoadude1 November 10, 2009 6:59 AM PST
and sir gillz....

is freedom of speech a problem with you? hope not....cuz im just like all of the pscrap fangirls, just a loyal xbox player/owner/subscriber. i get what i pay for...QUALITY.
by Byteme2009 November 10, 2009 9:49 AM PST
@ whoadude1 - quote 'just the quality system I play on' 'i get what i pay for...QUALITY'

So I take it you didn't have an early generation 360? lol Seriously though, without drudging up a bunch of pointless stats I would think you have to confess the first couple of years of 360's were poorly engineered overall and like it or not that kept them from selling a lot of units. They might have wiped the PS3 off the map if it wasn't for the RROD. I have held off buying a 360 for a couple of reasons: 1. Price 2. Quality of the unit itself. Now they have fixed the quality issue to a large degree (although are these any quieter than the turbo-prop sounding early 360's?), they just need to convince me a little more on the price side. There are undoubtedly some great games on both systems though.
by erock1974 November 9, 2009 1:07 PM PST
I'll use my Roku box since (1) the fan on the 360 is deafening and (2) I'm guessing the Roku uses a lot less electricity that the 360 or the PS3.
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by ccmike72 November 9, 2009 2:17 PM PST
roku box is now a green device...lol
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