PC vs. Mac now vs. PC and Mac then
In one of Apple's latest TV ads featuring the omnipresent Mac (Justin Long) and PC (John Hodgman), we see PC going retro. It's actually a cute ad as PC regresses back in time with various incarnations of himself through the years, each time promising that a particular version of Windows won't suck. "Trust me," he says. Sure thing, PC. And nice wig.
But since we're going retro, maybe we should look at a few of Apple's ads from around the time PC and Mac apparently met (according to the ad): the '90s.
For those who don't remember Apple's advertisements from then, I offer a collection of some of the most sucktastic ads Apple has ever had (remember Think Different? Yeah, me too). Enjoy them. You can thank me later.
First up: The 20th anniversary Macintosh. Remember this one? The computer cost more than some cars at the time and was woefully underpowered. But it was the first Apple desktop to come with an LCD screen, so that's, you know, something.
Here, Apple says, "You see, if you're not like anyone else (you're not!) then you should use a computer that's not like anything else. Can you see our logic? It's plain! Buy a Mac!" Or something. I was never sure what the point of these was.
But of course the flagship Mac was the PowerBook. At the time, notebooks were blowing up. To create interest in its product, Apple's PowerBook ads featured copy touting how the MacOS was easier to use than Windows. This ad may have helped some Mac users feel more sure of their anti-Windows ways.
But then Apple started losing the OS wars. In the mid-'90s, Apple introduced a series of Macs with a DOS card. The DOS card allowed the Mac to run both MacOS and Windows. This was to expand its market to the "it's not compatible" crowd. Of course, Apple still said MacOS was better, but in this ad, the Mac's ability to run both OSes is highlighted directly.
I remember Mac enthusiasts were upset with that commercial, seeing it as the first sign Apple might throw in the towel and start making expensive PCs. A machine running Windows is not a Mac, they said. There were even rumors that the next Macs would run Windows-only, something that kept some diehards up late. But it was the next ad that really caused concern on message boards and bulletin board services.
There it is, their worst fears confirmed: a Mac is shown, but as far as the OS goes, it's only Windows, including the Windows 95 MSDOS icon. So looking back at this transition and then looking at the above ad we have to wonder: what would a Mac and PC ad have looked like back in the day when Apple was pushing the Mac's ability to run Windows?
I'm guessing it would look very different indeed.
With more than 15 years experience testing hardware (and being obsessed with it), Crave freelance writer Matt Hickey can tell the good gadgets from the great. He also has a keen eye for future technology trends. Matt has blogged for publications including TechCrunch, CrunchGear, and most recently, Gizmodo. E-mail Matt. 

Too often, stupidity is mistaken for humor. One needs to be smart to be funny.
Why don't you post the list of PowerPC apps that are portable between AIX and OSX? Here I will do if for you:
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cause Apple sells whole 1000$ computers, not 20$ O.S packs !
BMW Mercedes and Lexus combined have a lower marketshare in the car market than Apple does !
ya sure Apple could reduce prices and therby profits to increase market share but thats stupid !
Ummm... computers in general didn't reach a billion users till a few years ago, so I highly doubt there are 7 billion computer users (in general) now!
The race is not always to the swift ... well, actually it is. It just takes time to play out. Follow the money.
Sunny Guy
So does the colon, but its only full of ****.
How many Apple users are using multiple machines??? How could they afford that in this economy? Could they build a Mac from scratch like you can a windows machine?
BTW, the 30-second version of the Think Different spot that you're using here was only used briefly during the campaign. In fact, it might have only been used on the night of the last Seinfeld episode, but I'm not sure of that. The full 60-second version (without Seinfeld) is the one that launched the campaign. It's here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oAB83Z1ydE
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Heh.. The one that really killed me was the Mac commercial that went into the future. The two are still there many years later; and it seems like nothing has changed. So, umm. That means Mac still hasn't "won the war" and that it in fact still has a small % of the market. At least, that's what it kinda looked like to me.
Your friend's Macbook's harddrive? For starters, made by seagate or western digital. The same harddrives as in every laptop. Harddrives fail. It happens. Until we can switch over to solid state drives, it's going to keep happening. Has nothing to do with it being a Mac.
Secondly, the whole snow leopard thing wiping out user data has been blown way out of proportion. Yea it really sucks for the people it happened to and Apple needs to do something about it. However, I check out tons of machines a day (somewhere between 20-40) and deal with tons of support issues and I haven't encountered this yet. It's a very small percentage. Give credit where credit is due.
I've had two drive failures this month in HP servers. Does that mean HP makes crappy servers and Windows Server sucks? Obviously not.
That's the point. People are paying for "quality" but are paying for the same parts.
I love Macs, but I recognize that it's a Windows world out there and I'm excited in the improvements of Windows 7.
Anywho-for those haters (on both sides) remember this: there are plenty of CHEAP shots on both sides! Some say this is a cheap shot against Windows. Ok. But *** for tat, there is a WHOLE FAMILY GUY show coming up devoted to Windows 7! Equally crazy.
Just take a step back and BREATH. Please! You're not personally involved in this all-so why hate? Windows and Macs have their places in the world-wherever they might be. Go industry competition!
And even if somehow Apple makes all parts in-house, will there be flaws in the design and manufacturing process? Of course it will. Can't avoid that. So .. yes, no matter what, Macs will fail eventually, just like Windows machines.
The choice was Apple's to include such hardware because the company deemed that it had acceptable quality standards and cost to purchase, not because it is perfect. We recognize that Apple accepts that responsibility, that's why there is AppleCare.
About the Max OS. A flaw is a flaw. The fact that the MacOS sends and continue to send out updates and patches (some critical, some not) already indicates the OS is imperfect. Having said that, no OS will ever be perfect.
So, no perfect hardware, no perfect software. No perfect Macs, no perfect PCs.
See this article: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2917 ... titled "Pwn2Own 2009: Safari/MacBook falls in seconds." I wonder if the MacOS X is the majority of OSes used in the world, would the tables have been turned? Would Windows *seem* less hackable because of it? What do you say?
Let's not forget that the fact that a Mac can run Windows already indicates that underneath it's beautiful unibody design, all this machine hardware is is merely a PC. And you can do that the other way around .. that's why there are what people call Hackintosh. It's no different. Apple only uses a limited set of off-the-shelf hardware to make their products and run its OS, that's all. It may make support easier, but I see nothing special about it.
I'll only give credit to Apple for it's marketing ads. They are quite smart. Windows? Not so much. But then if anyone is depending on ads to help them decide their next computer purchase, we cannot help them.
1) Gaming - They need to back game developers to make more Mac versions.
2) System Building - Remove the idiotic law about only running OSX legally on Macs.
3) Apple Tax - If you remove Windows from a PC and OSX from a Mac with identical specs, they should cost the same.
Gaming, ignoring the system building population and having the Apple tax are the three largest factors, in my opinion, as to why Apple controls such a small percentage of the market.
First quarter Apple Sales: $10.17 billion
First-quarter Microsoft Sales: $13.7 billion
At this rate Apple will be a bigger company than Microsoft in a year or two.
You are ignoring that we're talking about OS market here. You can't count Microsoft's XBOX sales nor Apple's IPODs (nor their computers themselves for that matter). You are comparing their entire portfolio in comparison with their revenue.
They have a long way to go before taking over share of the OS market...if you took just those revenue numbers apart from everything else you'd have quite a different number.
Why do you need to always build your own PC? The issue with that seems so illogical. WHo do i turn to for help when someone messes up? No one because you have no manufacturer you built it yourself.
Gaming. That is what you have game systems for. Computers are not gaming machines. And since you can run windows on a Mac what game cant you run?
Apple Tax. NO they should not. Why does apple have to sell a cheap computer? That is why they have money and Dell and others are struggling right now to get by. ALso Apple puts allot of RND and so forth into their computers. How hard is it to slap together some plastic pieces that look like they were recycled from something else and thrown together. I have an old gateway that is several years old. It is no uglier then the PC laptops made today. In other words Dell and so forth never innovate they just update the internal parts and the outside stays pretty much the same with some minor changes.
APple is very close in price and especially considering i never have to pay for virus or malware software or spend time updating drivers and cleaning viruses off my computer.
I dont ever worry about the headlines that say dont access banking records on a PC and all the other stuff because they do not apply to Mac users.
Apple is growing every year they sell more and more computers. And if you include all installs of OSX then you would have to include the Touch and the iPhone.
The Touch and the iPhone are instances where for once people dont say oh i cant buy that its made by apple. They like it so they buy it. And Apple owns the MP3 industry and is taking over the Mobile phone industry.
A - I don't. I own a laptop which I didn't build.
B - For desktops I do because I can get exactly what I want for less money than accepting their's for a higher cost.
C - I've actually had higher stability in my custom computers than manufactured ones I've dealt with.
"I never have to pay for virus or malware software or spend time updating drivers and cleaning viruses off my computer."
Neither do I. There are plenty of quality free security software available. Even Steve Jobs recommends security software over what's built into Snow Leopard so Mac's need it too. I don't waste time removing viruses and malware because I'm not stupid about my computer. Drivers should be updated regardless of the type of computer you run.
If you include all installs of OSX on iPods and iPhones then you need to include all installs of Windows Mobile as well, therefore roughly equaling it out anyway.
When it comes to cosmetics, you are right in terms of Dell and such building ugly computers. Looking at the bigger picture, PCs have a lot higher variety to own something eye-pleasing. Case windows, internal lights, liquid cooling, fans with LEDS, LCD thermostats, etc.
As for boot camp, it's a great concept and a great feature. I'd run both Windows & OSX on my desktop if I could legally do so. The only thing that bothers me about this is that Apple is being MAJORLY hypocritcal about it all. Watch their PC vs Mac ads. "Windows sucks but you can run it on a Mac!!" is pretty much what they're saying. They're bashing something and using it to support their product at the same time.
Last but not least, gaming. Try telling ATI and nVidia that PCs aren't gaming machines. See what response you get. That argument would be used left and right if the tables would be turned. Look at top selling video games of all time. The top 2 are WoW and Sims. Both computer games. Luckily Mac has them too. Don't try saying PCs aren't gaming machines.
and this is a great way to advertise , cause people tend to remember funny ads
also these ads are targeting the average user , not Cnet commentors
you know like the ones who have no idea what upgrading a O.S means
or what Drivers and Virus definitions are
I'm guessing it would look very different indeed."
Or ... very much the same?
Mac vs PC - Touche
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHK1xiuO740
no iPhone without Palm, Sony, SonyE PDA phones Nokia,
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_p800-326.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_p900-544.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_p910-846.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_7700-570.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_7710-921.php
no ipods without Creative, Sony, Panasonic, Aiwa...especially Sony for creating Walkman... the ORIGINAL portable player.
Apple should concentrate on the OS, not computer hardware in order to really compete vs M$.
They really only starting pickup up lately with the issues with Vista. Take history before that time and it's a different matter. Make no mistake, they are very worried about Windows7 deflating their recent profit bubble.
- by FtLMale October 24, 2009 5:29 PM PDT
- Sometimes in the battle between Windows and Apple, it is important to remember that the competition between them is what drives the innovation and improvement. Without either of them, we would all suffer. Thus I continue to bless them both and hope they each forever continue to battle it out for our hard earned dollars.
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