October 16, 2009 2:55 PM PDT

New Super Mario Bros. Wii: Hard-core/casual fusion Nintendo's been looking for?

by Scott Stein
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It's retro right down to the box art.

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This holiday season, amid an economy that's still in the tank, game companies are stingier with their first-party release schedule. In fact, each of the Big Three (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) are only targeting one or two games for their systems before Christmas. Nintendo has one single title that's prominent for the Nintendo Wii, and that's New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

We got a chance to play one or two of the side-scrolling title's multiplayer modes a while back, but we didn't know whether Mario's home console return to 2D platforming would also feature a single-player mode that had as much going for it as old-school favorites like Super Mario World.

After last night's playthrough and a discussion with Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto (translated via Nintendo of America's Bill Trinen), the answer to that question is undoubtedly yes.

Mr. Miyamoto answered questions regarding his new game, in particular why it's a 2D game when Super Mario Galaxy achieved such great success both critically and financially as a 3D Wii title.

According to Miyamoto, who participated in a reporter's roundtable Thursday night in New York City, what makes a Mario game is being "simple to control and easy to understand." The multiplayer modes of New Super Mario Bros. Wii include both four-player competitive Smash Bros.-inspired modes such as Coin Battle, as well as hop-in four-player co-op throughout the entire single-player story mode of the game.

"We wanted the game to appeal to and be accessible to as wide an audience as possible, and because we wanted to make it multiplayer, we felt that the original concept for Mario Bros. was the one best suited to multiplayer gameplay," Miyamoto added. "Multiplayer platforming is much better suited to a 2-D environment versus a 3-D one." He was referring specifically to same-room gaming as opposed to online gaming, raising a point that we've often thought about with the Wii--namely, other than Wii Sports, that there just aren't a great number of multiplayer games for the console.

An old-fashioned overworld.

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Miyamoto went on to explain how New Super Mario Bros. Wii and next year's upcoming sequel to Super Mario Galaxy were simultaneously co-developed as two separate ways to look at the Mario experience on the Wii. One is a natural evolution of Mario's recent 3D efforts, while New Super Mario Bros. is unabashedly retro, even down to its box design and cover art.

"The game stems from 8-bit Mario," Miyamoto admitted, although he also claims the original Mario was always intended to be a two-player co-op experience. With the DS game New Super Mario Bros., Miyamoto said he "tried a balance of level difficulty that would still satisfy long time Mario fans," but found the balance "hard to do."

The new Mario game allows players to be as proactive or casual as they want, according to Miyamoto and Nintendo. They mean this quite literally: the game triggers a "Super Guide" option after the player dies eight times, which is a video showing exactly how to make it through the level. The player can jump in at any time, or even skip the level entirely. It's a controversial idea to the hard-core, but Miyamoto stressed that it needn't be used, and wouldn't be a great idea in all games. "A lot of people buy strategy guides or go online--we incorporated it within the game itself," Miyamoto explained, adding that the Super Guide "doesn't show secret areas or how to get star coins."

Amusing developer and tester-made "expert" videos were also shown that can also be unlocked by collecting hidden Star Coins, showing off how much extra can be applied to certain levels with a little extra hard-core effort.

Super Guide shows how Luigi would make it to the finish.

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It seems that Miyamoto's greatest pride is in how this game enables a meeting between hard-core and casual players, and how same-room "living room" multiplayer, as opposed to online play, can be a source of old-fashioned fun. "The more advanced can carry novice gamers through levels," Miyamoto said, and referred to his observations testing the game with focus groups. "What we noticed was when people played alone they had a very serious look on their face and they were working very hard trying to figure out their way through a level...but as soon as we had multiple people playing the game, their expressions changed dramatically, and all of a sudden they had smiles on their faces," noting that "some of the people playing multiplayer can have a really good time without playing much of anything."

New Super Mario Bros. Wii: as hard or as easy as you'd like.

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While some might fault Nintendo for not making New Super Mario Bros. Wii into WiiWare DLC (for the record, Miyamoto claims he prefers things in boxes), the playtest afterwards confirmed that this game is exactly what an old-school Nintendo fan or a retro-obsessed Mario lover would want--it's a full Mario game through and through. Strangely, it eschews many of the Wii's prime features--it's controlled exclusively using the nunchuck-less Wii-mote turned on its side, and doesn't use Wii MotionPlus--but that could be an appeal for many Wii owners, not a hindrance. It doesn't reinvent the wheel, but it adds enough tributes and new wrinkles (like an ice flower power-up) to make it worth the visit. Come to think of it, New Super Mario Bros. Wii might be the only Nintendo Wii game besides Wii Sports to successfully blend hardcore gaming, casual appeal, and multiplayer into one package. If Wii owners agree with that sentiment, then Nintendo's destined to be printing money once again this holiday.

Scott Stein, a New York Jets fan and CNET senior associate editor, has written about tech, entertainment, video games, and viral culture for outlets including Laptop, Wired, Maxim, Esquire Online, Asylum, and Men's Journal. He also appears on the Digital City podcast. In his spare time, you might see him performing improv in New York City (when he's not being a dad).
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by joefosho619 October 16, 2009 5:08 PM PDT
Nintendo did it again. Another great game with Nintendo 64 graphics. Give me a break.
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by Shanghai Kid October 17, 2009 4:22 AM PDT
That'll sell bucket loads and be critically acclaimed (metascore near the 100% mark)
by atomD21 October 17, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
When did amazing graphics become the benchmark of game quality? Ever played Patapon on the PSP? World of Goo? There are tons of amazing games that have graphics rivalling the PS1. Look for fun, not graphics, you won't be disappointed.
by adrollz October 17, 2009 5:57 PM PDT
I will be buying Wii just to play this game... so damm rite Nintendo did it again!
once you are able to see past all the bling bling in games, it might surprise you to realize quality does not in anyway depend on graphics
by play7 October 18, 2009 3:08 AM PDT
Did not take much to say it it it? Lack of brain equals lack of understanding..........
by joefosho619 October 16, 2009 5:09 PM PDT
Nintendo did it again. A superb game with Nintendo 64 Graphics. Give me a break!!!!
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by jason1692 October 17, 2009 5:55 AM PDT
oh be quiet, those games invented the gaming industry. without them we still might be stuck with *shiver* atari consoles *massive gasps*
by RockaTech October 17, 2009 9:25 AM PDT
@joefosho619
Yeah I know what you mean its a disgrace that Nintendo can only come up with a remake of a remake of a remake as its holiday "hit". Its like if your favorite band released the same album over and over with different artwork on the CD box and expected you to buy it again and again. Shigeru Miyamoto should be President of Nintendo, then maybe Nintendo can come out with some better ideas because they lost the respect of the serious gamer. I used to love my SNES, N64, Gamecube, but the Wii just doesn't have as many great games as the past systems. and a sugar coated "remake" of Super Mario Bros isn't what serious gamers are looking for.
by myg6gxp October 16, 2009 8:56 PM PDT
You know ... It's not all about graphics and new stuff all the time. A good old fashioned Mario game is great for people that truly enjoy good old gaming when it was JUST fun. If you don't like it just don't buy it but keep the negatives to yourself. Way to go Nintendo!
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by bluemist9999 October 17, 2009 8:01 AM PDT
I agree here. If the game is a lot of fun to play, it will sell very well. Besides, when it costs $10 million to make a game (i.e. PS3) mainly due to the fancy graphics, there won't be many truly creative games.

At that kind of cost, a $50 game would need to sell 200,000 copies just to break even, so game companies will only bankroll games they are very certain will succeed.
by Lerianis3 October 18, 2009 4:01 AM PDT
The first two posters are partially right. If a game is fun to play, it can sell well and be a good game.... but there comes a time when these companies are not pushing the graphics boundary enough in their new releases. Though, to be honest..... photorealistic Mario..... UGH!
Yeah, not a pleasant thought there. Nintendo should stay with the cartoony graphics.... BUT start pushing the graphics envelope with those cartoony graphics, with more 'life-like textures' on everything but the characters.
by saurey1 October 16, 2009 11:32 PM PDT
I agree with JoeFosh. The graphics on the Wii suck as$
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by saurey1 October 16, 2009 11:32 PM PDT
I agree with JoeFosh. The graphics on the Wii suck as$
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by Shanghai Kid October 17, 2009 4:23 AM PDT
No they don't.
by jason1692 October 17, 2009 5:57 AM PDT
the wii is a family oriented game. how can they win their targeted market while having only uber realistic blood filled games? also the wii fit is pure genius. most parents dont want their 4 year old watching a guy get chainsawed in half. they look how they do on purpose
by dmetras October 17, 2009 7:01 AM PDT
I don't see how anybody could fault Nintendo for not releasing it as WiiWare. The game would simply be too big (space-wise) to be WiiWare. Keep in mind that the Wii can only hold 512MB. It would take an HCSD (is that what the SD cards with over 2GB are called?) to hold something like this.
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by October 17, 2009 9:33 AM PDT
actually, sd cards over 2gb are called SDHC for secure digital high capacity
by Chao_Sama October 17, 2009 7:27 AM PDT
Is there an dire need by everyone to doublepost on this Article???
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by atomD21 October 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT
Seems like it...
by atomD21 October 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT
Seems like it...
by FrostyD7 October 17, 2009 9:20 AM PDT
ill take the creative style graphics on nintendo over the "realistic" graphics on the other consoles. Years from now, 360 and ps3 graphics will look like crap, but the wii will still stand out as creative due to the almost artistic style. Super Mario Galaxy may not have been 1080p, but it still had amazing visuals, and great gameplay. Who said you need high def games to have fun?
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by RockaTech October 17, 2009 9:36 AM PDT
Who said artistic styles can't be created on a high def system? you actually have more horsepower in a 360, PS3, or PC to produce a more creative environment than in a wii. I don't know why people can't just realize that nintendo was just being cheap in producing their next console. The Gamecube didn't sell so good but it had great games. It makes good sense in a business perspective but from a gamer's perspective you're being cut short in terms of quality of a game.
by atomD21 October 17, 2009 1:37 PM PDT
But if the game is fun, you're being cut short on quality just because Mario's moustache doesn't have individually rendered hairs. I've got the Wii60 set up and I have to say that I love playing a great looking game (looking at you right now GTAIV), but I also like to play one that focuses more on fun.
by cl5621 October 17, 2009 10:10 AM PDT
I looks like a fun game to play with the family. That's the reason why my wife and chose to buy the Wii console, for family entertainment. So i'm looking forward to this game.
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by krisconn October 17, 2009 10:56 AM PDT
This game is a throwback no doubt about it. If it's not your thing, don't buy. Super Mario was undeniably phenomenal. I own all 3 systems and like each for different reasons. If you're a true gamer you can appreciate the niche the Wii has carved out for itself.
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by krisconn October 17, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
oops - Super Mario "Galaxy"
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by ProzacJM October 17, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
People, this is a Mario game, is not about graphics, is about fun, that's what they wanted, that's what they are offering, besides Mario galaxy didn't look bad at all.
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by Lerianis3 October 18, 2009 4:05 AM PDT
Mario games were about graphics as well back in the day. The problem is that since Mario 64, they haven't been pushing the graphics potential.
by Paul_Christie October 17, 2009 12:45 PM PDT
Graphics, graphics, graphics....blah blah blah
This argument about the Wii's graphics "sucking as$" is tiresome. Get a clue, MTVeenager.
Like someone memtioned here, not everybody has the same preferences that you, er...
"serious" gamers have; take a break from seeing someone getting decapitated, shot point-blank in the face, or a woman's big boobs in Hi-Def... Sheesh.
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by Paul_Christie October 17, 2009 12:46 PM PDT
*mentioned
by atomD21 October 17, 2009 1:41 PM PDT
The problem is that the focus has been on better grpahics for so long that the fun got lost in the mix. Not saying there aren't tons of really fun amazing looking games, but the focus got shifted to realistic looking characters and worlds. That all being said , Nintendo does need to step up the graphics game next gen, as they are losing favor with gamers and other people looking for an HD gaming experience.
by Lerianis3 October 18, 2009 4:06 AM PDT
No, fun did not get lost in the mix. There are plenty of games like Batman: Arkham Asylum that push the graphics border, yet are still very fun to play. It's a balance, but with Nintendo, the balance has been on 'fun' for 3 year olds, which is cartoony graphics.... if they want to attract ADULTS....gotta have some better graphics.
by rhyno1 October 17, 2009 2:16 PM PDT
Yes, just like the price of the PS3 and XBOX 360 right? C'mon. Those of you that look to the Wii to be anything more than a great family entertainment console should keep the comments to yourself. That's akin to saying the 0-60 time of a Toyota Prius sucks. Newsflash---the Prius isn't intended to run 1/4 miles and the Wii isn't designed to run graphic intensive games. If you are a serious gamer that owns a Wii, chances are own a PS3 or 360. When I want to "game" I play my 360. When it's time to play with my family, we play the Wii. My 3 year old loves Mario Cart, as do I for that matter. I don't think he would have much fun with Forza though.Get the picture?
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by grysl October 17, 2009 9:59 PM PDT
I love cnet for its tech reviews, but it should steer clear of video games, because it has precisely zero idea what it's talking about (or, at the very least, is deliberately baiting with its headline). Nintendo's best since Wii Sports? Are you kidding?

Super Mario Galaxy was the best video game released that year across any console. Punch Out! deserves a space on every hardcore gamer's shelf. World of Goo isn't available on XBLA or PSN. The update of Resident Evil 4 is still the best survival horror game on the market, even since the release of 5. I have all three current-gen machines, and they all have their place (with the XBox 360 being, in general, my console of choice). But continuing to pretend that the Wii is nothing but a Wii Sports machine is a disservice to both Nintendo and the entire video game industry. I question a lot of Nintendo's decisions, but they don't deserve this kind of glib insult. Their games remain innovative and fun, even if they don't push the boundaries of technology. The editors at cnet should know better.
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by great_gamer October 18, 2009 2:15 AM PDT
everything isn't about graphics
i got all three consoles and i like all three equally even the the graphics on the wii are as good as the others
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by Sardonik October 18, 2009 6:07 PM PDT
Heh, console games. I grew up on my N64, GC, and PS 2 but once I discovered steam I barely glance at them.
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by superjay77 October 19, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
I can't wait to play this coop with my wife. I played it at the comic con. Really fun. I love the old school graphics also.
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by Sweet_Peaches October 29, 2009 3:19 PM PDT
I have always loved Nintendo, I owned their very first system back in the day then the SNES, then the N64, then the GC now finally the Wii. To me I just can't stand the graphics of the 360 and the PS3, sure they're nice and they "WOW" hardcore gamers but it just isn't what I'm looking for, alot of times I find myself playing a hardcore game on a PS3 or an XBOX360 and I just lose interest in it right away, I just don't find them fun to play. I'm definitely going to pick up this game when it comes on the shelves, I have the first one that originally came out for the DS and it was fun so I don't mind this one even if some levels would be more challenging then others.
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