Is Uncharted 2 enough to put the PS3 on top?
Uncharted 2 has received unanimous critical acclaim for its immersive story, fantastic visuals, and cinematic presentation. But is the title enough to put Sony back on top? The answer isn't necessarily cut and dry. There's a lot more Sony needs to accomplish for the PlayStation 3 to finish first in the current-generation console war.
If there's one thing that has mostly been overlooked by the mainstream video game media, it's the fact that the slimming down of the PS3 was more than just a price drop. Symbolically speaking, the PS3 Slim was a complete rebranding for the console, forcing consumers to detach themselves from the negatives that the original bulky and expensive PS3 was associated with.
Sony even changed the console's logo from the Spider-Man font to the much more whimsical, airy design emblazoned on the slim and all-current game box art. PS3 commercials have also gotten a much-needed facelift, and we think the latest Uncharted 2 ad is actually quite brilliant.
Sony's PS3 underwent a radical rebranding and price cut, both of which have convinced some analysts that it will have been the best-selling hardware in September. But systems also need games, and exclusive ones at that, to sell themselves. Uncharted found success as a sleeper hit in its first iteration, and in just two years it's been propelled to system-seller status.
It achieves where other Sony franchises on the PS3 have failed; it allows you to "live a movie," so to speak--making the most of what Sony does best and maximizing the mass entertainment storytelling appeal of videogames. Like Sony's commercial boasts, this is a game others will want to watch you play.
On the other hand, Uncharted is a genre game, a platform-adventurer that's not kid-friendly. LittleBigPlanet is a tent pole family game for the PS3, but it launched a year ago. It's important to keep in mind Sony's library as a selling point for the PS3, and LittleBigPlanet does have a long shelf life due to its unique and somewhat timeless design, but Sony could have done with two or three more games on the order of magnitude of Uncharted 2 this holiday--a new Ratchet & Clank doesn't quite cut it.
If Sony wants to treat the PS3 Slim with the excitement of a new system launch, enough games need to come out to overtake the Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii. Instead of outperforming, Sony is still playing catch-up. Right now, it's only matching punch for punch with Halo 3: ODST and New Super Mario Bros. Wii. That's close, but we're not sure it's enough to push Sony over the top.
Reading Kojima's recent interviews, it's painfully obvious that while he'd like to explore other titles or even new IPs, Konami is just interested in more MG$. Clearly they are doing MG$R for the money...hence it being ported to 360.
It's not even going to be a stealth or tactical game, lolz.
But to the point, I contend that Sony is just fine. Their exclusive library is IMO second to none with games like the Motorstorm series, the Resistance series, Killzone 2, LittleBIG Planet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Gran Turismo, the Uncharted series, Heavenly Sword, R&C and of course the God of War Collection and GoW3.
If Sony wants to re-market those games now that the slim is $299 and the holidays are approaching, I could see that being a good idea, but honestly they have MORE than enough exclusive games to push the PS3. O and there's the whole Blu Ray thing.
As for the hype about ODST, it's empty. It's a $60 expansion for the n00biest shooter this side of CoD, and I have yet to see a site without the words "Xbox 360" in it's domain name to give ODST a score higher than 8.6.
Then there's the Patcher September report showing 360 was dead last, moving 60,000 less consoles than PS3. Things are looking really good for Sony. You can have Raiden. He's the most hated character in MGS (hero OR villain) anyways.
I do agree though that Sony needs better characters associated with their console. Sackboy is a good start. Jak, not so much.
But Kratos is a good one.
You make a blanket statement about ODST ratings and don't do any research, typical Sony Fanboy. Here is the list of sites that reviewed ODST and it's score....most 9/10 or above.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3untitledodstgame/review.html?mode=web&tag=scoresummary;critic-score
I agree, Sony needs to create an insanely awesome holiday bundle (for $299.99). They haven't even announced one yet that I'm aware of.
Too bad ODST sucks lol. Just get Uncharted. And the co-op mode in Uncharted is great. ODST is a rehash, Uncharted 2 is beauty. Pure beauty. This is what gaming should be.
Actually alot of people said ODST was lacking. ALOT of people. I'm not sure how you're happy with paying 60 bucks for an incomplete game. But hey it's cool. Just sying that Uncharted is WAAAAY better than ODST.
I do find it funny though, it took Naughty Dog 2 years to make Uncharted 2. One of the best games this gen, and its taking Squeenix 5+ years to create s multiplatform game thats looking to be another mediocre multiplat. It looks as though Squeenix downgraded to game to run "equally" on both consoles. Seems odd.
in fact iam writing this from a pc running windows 7 ultimate rtm
Its still exclusive in Japan so its sure to move units. The demo alone moved over 600,000 PS3s in a week in Japan. Plus people are starting to notice the PS3 version will most llikely outshine the 360 version. Given the fact Squeenix focused all their efforts finishing up the PS3 version the porting it to the 360. Finally this gen, we get a multiplat that was made the PS3 1st then ported to the 360. Im tired of multiplat games this gen. They are all Xbox games.
Agito is the portable cell phone part of FF13, not Sony from my understanding. The Sony one is FF13 Versus, which looks wicked sick.
Correction, It WAS a cell phone game. Not anymore. Its in development for the PSP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Agito_XIII#Development
Exclusive to Sony's PSP. I hope Versus XIII remains exclusive. Square said they wanted Advent Children like graphics for Vs XIII. Wont get there on the Xbox unless the games is only an hour long or 10 discs.
When all year a systems exclusive releases are 2 expansion packs and Halo game (milking the franchise) theres a problem., yet there is no article about this. Just an article downplaying Uncharted 2 and the other 5 AAA exclusives Sony released this yr
Are you insane??? You don't love the fact that Halo is being milked until it dies?????? I'm waiting for Halo 3: Sidescroller, Halo 3: Stealth Mission, Halo 3: Skateboarding, Halo 3: Racing, and Halo 3: RPG. And let's not even consider a Halo 4!!!!
lol CNET is on M$ payroll. Let's just speak the TRUTH beneath their attempt at journalism. I mean Uncharted has like 24 perfect scores in various magazines. Remember this is the same site that touted the PS3 Slim as a mere inconcievable rumor remember? LOL they are n00b journalists.
I have a bone to pick with you. I am a 360 owner and I must completely disagree with your saying that Halo 3: ODST isn't a AAA title game. Halo 3: ODST was able to sell over 2 million copies in its first day. I think it is definitely worthy of AAA status. To put this in perspective for you Sony fanboys, that's more than Killzone 2's TOTAL sales, the game that was supposed to be the killer FPS for PS3. I think that's pretty good for what you call an "expansion pack"
BTW, Shinobi2099, considering how much CNET isn't on a Microsoft payroll considering how much they adore all things Apple. Also, the PS3 slim is only selling better because of the price drop. I mean, the new one is ugly as hell. I actually liked the first one as much as my Elite but the second one looks like crap.
But you can get a 360 for the same price right? So why would ONLY the price drop affect the sales of the PS3? If your theory is correct, which it isn't, then at best the PS3 should be EQUAL to the sales of the 360 bc the only reason it's worth getting is because of the price drop... Thats a pretty lame excuse. You're a poor excuse for a 360 fan boy. lol nice try n00bster
Why would the price drop be the only reason sales spiked when the slim came out? Because nothing else happened during that month for the PS3! What did you think, that the PS3 would have had a sales increase if they introduced the slim at $400? If there's one thing i know about America, it's that money is everything. Second of all, why would the sales of the 360 and PS3 be equal because their both $300? You act as if I said that. Even with the price drop, the PS3 has a lot of catching up to do if it is to reach the sales of the 360. One year can make a big difference. If there's any "theory" in my statement, its that cheaper=more sales. I don't know where you got the fanboy part (or n00bster. What the hell is that supposed to mean?). I said I was a 360 owner, not a fanboy. I like the PS3's Blu-Ray player and I love Metal Gear Solid 4 so I will be getting one sooner or later. Don't accuse people of being fanboys, you just make yourself look like one.
@Jawknee1
I would never throw numbers out without a source. Here's two for your enjoyment. Between 1.8-2 million copies on one day and 2.2 million in a week (The funny thing is that only places ODST in fourth place for 360 games!)
http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=5352
http://www.co-optimus.com/article/2672/Halo_3_ODST_Tops_Killzone_2s_Lifetime_Sales___In_24_Hours.html
By the way can you show me a source of ODST being on the PC? My friends who don't have a 360 would be thrilled to have a copy for PC.
"Halo 3: ODST was able to sell over 2 million copies in its first day."
This is what you said initially. and now you're saying it was 2.2 mil in it's first week. Make up your mind silly man.
In my second comment I said anywhere between 1.8-2 million copies in the first 24 hours. Even if the exact number was 1.7 million, so what? That's amazing. And I have ODST and it's selling like hotcakes for a reason. Firefight is epic. Anyway, why are we talking about ODST? Uncharted looks like a good game and if they made a bundle of that with MGS4 I'm definitely buying a PS3.
First of all R&C is one of Sony's biggest games, not to mention it is arguably the BEST platformer out. Did you play R&C: ToD? Obviously not because it's a Sony exclusive. So what if it's the 5th or 6th in the series, unlike Halo, the storyline is excellent and I can't wait to see how much more of Ratchet's mysterious past is revealed. Honestly the story is riveting, the voice acting supreme, it's funny, and fun to play. How can a new one be bad? How can you argue that it is not a good thing?
Second PS3 is known for it's first party platformers. Sly Cooper, Jak and daxter, and R&C are all supreme series. Look at all the articles that happened when there was a billboard in Infamous about Sly Cooper. Just one screenshot set off a wildfire of cries for Sly Cooper 4.
Third the only system that has better platformers is Nintendo. 360 definitely is lacking in that department.
Fourth Let's see out of M$ exclusives this year TWO were Halo RE-hashes. Please one of you comment on this pleeeaaase. I want to hear your reasoning as to why this was not pointed out as a flaw? But you put R&C in a negative light?
But I think everything will turn around when Atlas makes the jump from the PS2 to the PS3. Odinsphere 2 on PS3 anyone?
Next is Ratchet and Clank a Crack in Time, GT5 and Heavy Rain. Cant wait.
We could do some on-line stuff on games that aren't mediocre lol
Another Ratchet and Clank game just doesn't cut it?!
Right, but Halo 3 60$ expansion pack does? or a spin off Halo Wars? Or another Halo next year? Or a system reaching its 5th yr still suffering from RRoD and massive failures?
Its totally good for MS to make expansion packs in 8-10 months and sell them for 60$ and put out 3 halo games in 2 years. But Insomniac releasing a top quality entry in the series every 2 years is not gonna cut it? I mean xbox360 does not even have a decent platformer period, oh yeah Kameo, a very average release title from 2005, thats it. Sony puts out its third (R$C, LBP) AAA platformer and xbox360 doesn't even have one decent platformer yet alone a AAA one and its Ratchet and Clank that doesn't cut it? Damn Cnet, how far is Microsoft's c*ck in your a$$?
You people act like MS had had success selling these games on the Xbox alone. Just about every single Xbox exclusive is also available on the PC so of course the total number for any certain game would be larger then Sony's true exclusives.
Ignore kalel33 he's so wrong about everything. He spouts pure nonsense.
3D Dot game heroes
Agarest Senki Zero
Atlier Rorona
Demon's Souls
GT5
Infamous
Katamari Forever
Killzone 2
The Last Rebellion
MAG
Mobile Suit Gundam: Battlefield Record
R&C: Crack in Time
Uncharted 2
X-Edge
There is something for EVERYONE on the PS3. Can we say domination?
Also, now being into hour 11 of Uncharted 2, I can easily say that its probably second in the ps3 catalog only to mgs4 in terms of being cinematic. It is damn near a masterpiece.
Of this list that you posted, 3D dot game heroes, agarest senki zero, atlier rorona, demon's souls, the last rebellion, MAG, gundam and x-edge all combined will not sell even close what ODST sold. You know why? Because ODST is a great game. I have ODST and have played through the campaign on Legendary. I have played and scored over 200K on each Firefight map. I have also played at least one Halo 3 multiplayer match on ONLY the 3 maps exclusive to ODST. Once YOU have done all that, count up all the hours and sweat and adrenaline pumped and tell me that it wasn't worth $60. If you did, you'd be lying.
Listen, I love my 360 more than my PS3 for one reason. I have to keep trying to justify my purchase of the ps3 and not a standalone bluray player because of the exclusives only 3 in 3 years are system sellers (mgs, killzone, uncharted2) and all the other games that are also on 360, play better on 360. Also, lets face it, the 360 controller is FAR SUPERIOR to the ps3's. The only advantage the dual shock has is the d-pad which is really only beneficial in 2D fighting games. If you dont agree with me here, then think back to one of the best controllers of all time, the Dreamcast controller and see which of the 360 or ps3 more closely resembles it.
My last point here: Arguably the biggest game for either console this generation (in terms of actual game quality and sales) will be Modern Warfare 2. That game will decide which console is winning this war. I am willing to bet my prestige edition game and custom modern warfare 2 edition xbox 360 super elite on the fact that this game will sell many more copies on the xbox. You know who else is betting on that? Infinity Ward. Why else would they partner with xbox on so many different projects and exclusives? If you say money, then you would be right my friend. Money talks. The video game industry is a business after all.
Moving on:
Having beta tested MAG, I can tell you that game is going nowhere. It just doesnt get its formula right. Its an ambitious title for sure, but the core gameplay, you know, the shooting people part, isnt tight enough in the controls and not very satisfying. People who call other people noobs for being good at a game they arent is just plain stupid. I love how people say Call of Duty games are for noobs, yet they are the ones getting their ***** handed to them. If the game is so easy to be great at, and you are so great, then you should still be above and beyond the noobs! But you arent, so maybe YOU are the noob. Maybe you will be one of the best people playing MAG next year, but being the best of 100K people isnt the same as being the best of 10million.
GT5 is going to look beautiful (whenever the hell it actually comes out) but will not be all that fun, neither will Forza 3. Pure racing sims never are. Now, DiRT 2 was fun.
Also, now being into hour 11 of Uncharted 2, I can easily say that its probably second in the ps3 catalog only to mgs4 in terms of being cinematic. It is damn near a masterpiece.
Of this list that you posted, 3D dot game heroes, agarest senki zero, atlier rorona, demon's souls, the last rebellion, MAG, gundam and x-edge all combined will not sell even close what ODST sold. You know why? Because ODST is a great game. I have ODST and have played through the campaign on Legendary. I have played and scored over 200K on each Firefight map. I have also played at least one Halo 3 multiplayer match on ONLY the 3 maps exclusive to ODST. Once YOU have done all that, count up all the hours and sweat and adrenaline pumped and tell me that it wasn't worth $60. If you did, you'd be lying.
Listen, I love my 360 more than my PS3 for one reason. I have to keep trying to justify my purchase of the ps3 and not a standalone bluray player because of the exclusives only 3 in 3 years are system sellers (mgs, killzone, uncharted2) and all the other games that are also on 360, play better on 360. Also, lets face it, the 360 controller is FAR SUPERIOR to the ps3's. The only advantage the dual shock has is the d-pad which is really only beneficial in 2D fighting games. If you dont agree with me here, then think back to one of the best controllers of all time, the Dreamcast controller and see which of the 360 or ps3 more closely resembles it.
My last point here: Arguably the biggest game for either console this generation (in terms of actual game quality and sales) will be Modern Warfare 2. That game will decide which console is winning this war. I am willing to bet my prestige edition game and custom modern warfare 2 edition xbox 360 super elite on the fact that this game will sell many more copies on the xbox. You know who else is betting on that? Infinity Ward. Why else would they partner with xbox on so many different projects and exclusives? If you say money, then you would be right my friend. Money talks. The video game industry is a business after all.
You make no sense. Why would MW2 decide the console war? When have multi platform games ever decided the war? Lol EPIC PHAIL
@java
Thank you, you see my point. We have a slew of exclusives that will all be good in their own right. No1 can deny this. But if I recall there are 10 mil on Halo or something like this... ODST only sold what? 5 mil? So only HALF of the current Halo playes felt it was worthy enough to purchase? And thats a success? I thought the next game was supposed to bring MORE fnas to the table... Like Uncharted 2 is doing right now. Wow. Great job guys. Next thing M$ fans will be paying 60 bucks for a gun in halo with ACTUAL recoil. LOL Halo attracts the 75% of people who sucked at every other FPS out there. It's a shooter for n00bs and I myself would rather build my skill than play a nerf'd out game. All these halo fans shouting MW2 will probably suck at that game seeing as it has recoil.
"OMG why isn't my gun staying still?????"
LOL
@Shinobi
You are proving yourself ignorant.
1. Ryan is only stating that the creator of the game feels that MW2 will sell better on the 360.
2. You obviously tried halo sucked at it and decided you didn't want to be made fun of so you went to CoD.
I play both and I can tell you CoD is much easier to be good at. In CoD 5 my best weapon is Mp40 and that has the most recoil, guess what? I still own with it. My highest kill streak in CoD is 32, if you could do that in Halo at a high level than you're beast. Fact is most people can't.
3. Most hardcore halo players play for the online. A big part of the ODST is that it includes all the map packs, chances are over 5 mil Halo players have already bought the map packs. Also you are comparing sales of a game that has been out for nearly 2 years to one that just came out... nice one. And as f for the whole unchartered 2 brining in way more people, maybe its because almost no one bought the first one.
*MUTE* I'm done listening to your nonsense. Lol I didn't suck at halo it was TOO easy. It's a n00b shooter just face the truth. And for the record I don't play COD either... It's too arcade like. I prefer SOCOM. That takes reak skill. In MW whatever map I played I was always in the TOP 3. Nice try tho lol.
U all know galaxy was game of the year, this year new super mario bros wii, next year galaxy 2 lol.
Sony's finally in the game at least. They just need to add some additional online content streaming via an update, and I'd be happy. NetFlix, where are you?
So if you play U2 and not U1 you just wont get the connection some of the characters have but other then that you wont miss out on anything importent. But again, play U1 if you can. its a great game and U2 just raises that bar.
GT5 Prologue sold more then Forza 2 and GT5 Prologue has already been declared superior to Forza 3 in many ways. Not all but many. GT5 is going to blow Forza 3 away.
You sony guys keep mentioning all these games that havent come out yet, which makes me wonder, what can you have possibly been playing for the past 3 years? You can only play mgs and killzone for so long.
Yeah are you're 360 side sounds soooo interesting... Halo this, Halo that. What PS3 is tying to convey is that we are not trying to outsell halo. We don't care how many copies Halo sells honestly. We have DIVERSITY among our exclusives is what we are saying. And if you did combine everything, we might not beat out halo but I bet we having way more fun.
I love uncharted 2 and has renewed my faith in my PS3 being more than my Blu Ray player. They need an amazing exclusive RPG that is not some lame piece of junk from Japan. Something on the scale of mass effect. Dragon Age is coming but thats on the PC and 360 also.
The PS3 lineup has outperformed the gaming catalogue of the 360 and Wii over the past 2 years. What does the 360 or Wii have that significantly outshines MGS4 and LBP as far as gaming quality? And the worst part of this article is that the PS3 is showing no signs of doing anything but continuing that trend with things like FFIV, GT5 and possibly The Agent and The Last Guardian on slate for next year.
Take the idiot rant onto a subject with more credibility.
- by FIREitUP913 October 14, 2009 5:17 PM PDT
- I feel ya man, Ps3 has been outselling and outperformoring xbox for awhile now. All xbox360 has now is expansion packs. GTA expansion pack, Halo Expansion pack, L4D expansion pack....
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- by kalel33 October 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT
- First, the 360 has not been around for 5 years.....what, did you get a system a year before it came out? Secondly, why do an article on the problems with 360 games being in trouble when more games are sold on the xbox than the PS3.
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- by October 15, 2009 1:07 AM PDT
- 5 AAA PS3 exclusives this year? You're kidding, right?
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- by dgrumich October 15, 2009 7:40 AM PDT
- Could not have said it better myself. That's not fanboy rant either, that's all truth.
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Showing 1 of 3 pages (179 Comments)Ps3 puts out 6 exclusives this yr, 5 of which are AAA, and this is the article we get? How about an article about how MS should really fix RRoD when it still happens 5 yrs into the life of the system, or how about an article about how MS is in trouble because in 2009 all they released was basically expansion packs while ps3 dropped many AAA gems 2 of which (Uncharted 2 and Killzone2) push graphics and gameplay to a new level. Or how about an article detailing the ACTUAL cost of xbox360 because once you pay for a few yrs online, wifi and other way overpriced add ons the xbox360 price jumps to 600$ +.... ahhh Cnet, riding that Microsoft c*ck like true champions.
InFamous got an average score of 85. That's a B-rated game at best. Killzone 2 and Demon's Souls are borderline at 91 and 90 respectively. (Not that it matters for Demon's Souls since nobody is buying it. Killzone 2 dropped off the sales charts months ago.)
The only AAA rated exclusive on the PS3 so far is Uncharted 2 and it just came out yesterday.