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October 8, 2009 12:17 PM PDT

Nvidia puts NForce chipset development on hold

by Rich Brown
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Update: As Semiaccurate.com's Charlie Demerjian himself informs us, it was actually he who first wrote about Nvidia halting chipset development, albeit in more dire terms, back in August for his old haunt the Inquirer. Link here. Fair enough. We'll still credit Ryan Shrout at PC Perspective for obtaining what we understand to be the first on the record acknowledgment from Nvidia.

Credit PC Perspective for digging out the news that Nvidia has put its NForce chipset development on hiatus. Nvidia will continue to supply the market with current-generation NForce chipsets as necessary, but due to Nvidia's licensing battle with Intel, Nvidia has halted development of new NForce chipsets for both Intel and AMD CPUs.

The dispute over the terms of Nvidia's license to make chipsets for Intel processors began last year prior to the launch of Intel's first batch of Core i7 processors. Each company has filed suit against the other, although the most recent reports on the conflict had Nvidia moving forward with a Core i7-compatible chipset.

Having only announced its new Fermi graphics chip architecture, Nvidia lags behind AMD in introducing a next-generation graphics product. AMD has already launched its Windows 7-ready Radeon HD 5800-series graphics cards, based on an updated version of its RV770 chip design. Combine AMD beating Nvidia to market with Intel's impending Larrabee discrete graphics product due out next year, as well as combined CPU/GPU designs in the works from both Intel and AMD, and it's easy to suggest that Nvidia now finds itself in a difficult competitive position.

Arguing against that assessment is the fact that Nvidia has worked actively the past few years to expand its business beyond its traditional desktop products. It has spent a lot of time and effort emphasizing its graphics chips for both high-level computing via its CUDA technology, as well as refocusing its GeForce 9300 and 9400 mobile chips with the Ion moniker to help them stand out in the ever-expanding Netbook market. Nvidia also has invested heavily in developing and marketing its Tegra graphics chip family for handheld and mobile devices. None of those strategies guarantees success for Nvidia, but it's also clear that Nvidia has taken steps to expand its interests beyond the desktop products with which we're most familiar.

Rich Brown reviews desktops and various other components and peripherals for CNET. E-mail Rich.
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by slickuser October 8, 2009 1:05 PM PDT
nHold
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by Austin_Mike October 8, 2009 2:58 PM PDT
WIN
by Mr_fleabite October 8, 2009 1:08 PM PDT
NOOOOOOOOO. As a gamer its like hearing one's crack supply is going to be cut off. I hope they sort this out. I use both AMD and Nvidia and I like the competition between them so I hope AMD doesn't get too far ahead of Nvidia... on the other hand they could probably use the revenue boost (with being held back b/c of Intel and all that European flack). I'm so torn, I like the products that these companies turn out but they can be such bastards.
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by tylrwnzl October 8, 2009 6:59 PM PDT
I think this article is a little doomsdayish on Nvidia. They are still a major player in the market especially the gaming market so I don't think you need to worry about Nvidia losing much ground.
by fewtube October 9, 2009 6:39 AM PDT
hey man, i feel you - used to be a major amd-nvidia fanboy, ironically my current rig is still a nforce based amd X2 setup. but then again, such is life in the corporate world. be interesting to see what nvidia comes out with to beat the radeon 5850. alas soundstorm, i knew ye well...
by thelemurking October 8, 2009 1:51 PM PDT
Nvidia will never compete with Intel when it comes to graphics. Intel is not even playing the same sport, much less in the same league when it comes to graphics and Nvidia. Intel graphics are the epitome of suck.
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by XiroMisho October 8, 2009 7:04 PM PDT
Not very good for Nvidia, very good news for AMD - who still makes Chipsets for itself here... odd how things are not backwards, where Intel and AMD used to enjoy 3rd party chipsets, now it seems they prefer their own chipset's inhouse... (granted Intel hasn't been as eager to get in bed as AMD has been... and AMD fighting Nvidia harshly on the Graphics market hasn't helped that relationship any...)

very much hoping we aren't watching another 3D-FX situation...
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by dragonsprayer October 9, 2009 8:10 AM PDT
First off, nvidia started the war approx 4 years ago, any gamer should demand that nvidia allow physics-x support with ati card and nvidia card

The truth is, the bully is nividia every time and every year. nvidia started the war by denying intel access to SLI for 3-4 years. only after nvidia's own chip set license expired did they allow intel chipsets (x58) to use SLI

even then intel demanded mobo makers use there very hot, and unreliable and unneeded NF200 chip (i think) on mobos of X58. this was unpracticale and the mobo makers complained and nvidia backed off. all that was need was driver support and we all know that while nivida chipsets can be very slightly faster due to pci-e layout and other factors the cost was unnecessary and request was again anti-competitive.

nvidia pulled sli support right when sli 975x chipset was launched around 2005, claim intel intel did not know how to make chipsets
as it turns out nvidia did not know who to make chipsets with very very high failure rates and super hot north bridges. 680i 780i and 790i, each failed due to over heating.

nvidia re brands and re releases the same product, 8800. 9800. 250. They hold back technology like the 200 series until need when ati comes up with a good product. nvidia is most anti cousumer company in the computer market.

nvidia is the cause of 30-50% of all vista problems due too poor driver updating and other problems.

nvidia designed mobos have a very high failure rate to due weak pcb design - rarely discussed.

last week nividia, engages in anti competitive monopolistic business practices by pulling physics-x support from ati/nvidia combo systems

buy ati and send nvidia a message. go intel! go amd! go ati! only buy nvidia if you have too

lets not forget the notebook mess with chipset failures, and the rebranding of vidio cards that where identical mx8800 and mx9800

-while this was last weeks news it is biggest example of how nvidia thumbs its nose at the cousumer. When the R600 or XT2900 video card flopped nvidia jacked the price of their top cards 100%+. When evern ati even gets a little increase market share nvidia pulls some trick.
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by dragonsprayer October 9, 2009 8:11 AM PDT
First off, nvidia started the war approx 4 years ago, any gamer should demand that nvidia allow physics-x support with ati card and nvidia card

The truth is, the problem is nividia every time and every year. nvidia started the war by denying intel access to SLI for 3-4 years. only after nvidia's own chip set license expired did they allow intel chipsets (x58) to use SLI

even then intel demanded mobo makers use there very hot, and unreliable and unneeded NF200 chip (i think) on mobos of X58. this was unpracticale and the mobo makers complained and nvidia backed off. all that was need was driver support and we all know that while nivida chipsets can be very slightly faster due to pci-e layout and other factors the cost was unnecessary and request was again anti-competitive.

nvidia pulled sli support right when sli 975x chipset was launched around 2005, claim intel intel did not know how to make chipsets
as it turns out nvidia did not know who to make chipsets with very very high failure rates and super hot north bridges. 680i 780i and 790i, each failed due to over heating.

nvidia re brands and re releases the same product, 8800. 9800. 250. They hold back technology like the 200 series until need when ati comes up with a good product. nvidia is most anti cousumer company in the computer market.

nvidia is the cause of 30-50% of all vista problems due too poor driver updating and other problems.

nvidia designed mobos have a very high failure rate to due weak pcb design - rarely discussed.

last week nividia, engages in anti competitive monopolistic business practices by pulling physics-x support from ati/nvidia combo systems

buy ati and send nvidia a message. go intel! go amd! go ati! only buy nvidia if you have too

lets not forget the notebook mess with chipset failures, and the rebranding of vidio cards that where identical mx8800 and mx9800

-while this was last weeks news it is biggest example of how nvidia thumbs its nose at the cousumer. When the R600 or XT2900 video card flopped nvidia jacked the price of their top cards 100%+. When evern ati even gets a little increase market share nvidia pulls some trick.
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by 1nf1ltr8r October 9, 2009 8:56 AM PDT
As if things couldn't get any worse. I've delayed the jump to AM3 because I had been waiting for an AM3 nforce-based chipset. In my experience, the AMD ATI-based chipsets don't play well with the nvidia graphics cards. And no SLI-based AM3 means no new systems to introduce to my customers. It couldn't come at a harder time, either. We just introduced a new lineup of gaming systems built on AM2+ quad cores using nvidia chipset. Maybe nvidia should climb in bed with Via and and build it's own CPU, then Via and nvidia can buck Intel and AMD. I'm not gonna cry, I'm not gonna cry, I'm not gonna cr...
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by dragonsprayer October 9, 2009 10:39 AM PDT
We only use intel, not too many people care about amd. A X58, 4ghz 920 system is only a few hundred more then amd. On a $3000 to $5000 system we only use 920 - a few 975 if people insist - same speed. A sub $2000 system we use an E8400 or Q6600 or Qx9650 cheap. On 2-3k the i5 works out great. here is $6k
http://s329.photobucket.com/albums/l373/warpedsystems/?action=view&current=WSZ-WC44-3.jpg
http://s329.photobucket.com/albums/l373/warpedsystems/?action=view&current=WSZ-WCcm-T61-1.jpg

i like the phenon II just amd shot its was with too many ingsificant plateforms like dragon spider etc - people forgot amd
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by Particleman529 October 14, 2009 5:17 PM PDT
Would you pay $6000, cash to an individual who is functionally illiterate?
Probably not a good idea.
by youtubelin November 12, 2009 6:59 AM PST
Credit PC Perspective for digging out the news that Nvidia has put its NForce chipset development on hiatus. Nvidia will continue to supply the market with current-generation NForce chipsets as necessary, but due to Nvidia's licensing battle with Inte
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