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by Dan Ackerman
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Dying for a new desktop or laptop with a fresh, factory-installed copy of Windows 7 on it? We all know the official start date for the Win 7 era is October 22, but some small custom PC makers are claiming they'll start shipping systems with the new OS as early as October 13.

Puget Systems, a custom PC maker in Seattle, says the following on its Web site:

Customers who place orders for a full personal computer system, and who select Microsoft Windows 7 as their OS of choice, will be immediately placed in queue for shipment which will begin in earnest on October 13, 2009.

According to tech news site Ars Technica, Puget was told by Microsoft that "the earlier date only applies to system builders that buy the operating system through distribution channels," meaning small PC makers, and not the big OEMs like Dell and HP.

However, Puget and other custom PC makers may be a bit too optimistic. A Microsoft spokesperson explains, "October 12 is the date that Microsoft enables our Authorized Replicators to begin shipping Windows 7 to Microsoft OEM Authorized Distributors... So, while in theory a System Builder could get Windows 7 product pre-GA (general availability), based on supply chain analysis, the intended timing for customers to receive Windows 7 PCs from System Builders should be close to GA, on October 22nd."

That means the copy of Windows 7 on your system from a custom PC maker would leave the DVD replicating facility on October 12 and get shipped to a distributor, which would then send it to a company like Puget. After that, your system still has to get built, tested, and shipped. If one is very optimistic, this could get you hooked up a few days early, but realistically, this puts you in the same general October 22 ballpark as everyone else.

But if you're determined to be the first person on your block with a Windows 7 PC, all is not lost. While the official release date of October 22 is a Thursday, we've heard from several sources that certain big brick-and-mortar retail stores are going to start advertising Windows 7 systems in the weekend newspaper circulars that hit on Sunday, October 18.

The implication is, if you drop by a retail store that Sunday, there's a good chance they'll have Windows 7 versions of some laptops and desktops in the store already, and there's a good chance you'll be able to walk out with one.

New York native Dan Ackerman, a former radio DJ turned journalist, has written about technology and music for publications including Spin, Blender, The Hollywood Reporter, and USA Today. He hosts the weekly Digital City podcast and the New York edition of Editors' Office Hours. Dan's new album, Tales Out of Night School, is available now. E-mail Dan.

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by jscott418 September 25, 2009 10:45 AM PDT
I am not in any Windows 7 frenzy then I was for Snow Leopard. I never found much to fault with about Vista. Some I know had problems and some just thought it was a resource hog or it was just plain slow.
The last Windows operating system I truly could not wait to upgrade was Windows 98. When XP came out I could not wait! But since then I have simply waited to get the improvements when I needed a new computer. Some I know want the latest and greatest ASAP. But even though I like Windows 7 and its probably going to be a good thing. I can wait.
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by streamline35 September 25, 2009 12:04 PM PDT
I was in general agreement with you - I never had any major problems with Vista and it ran just fine on my computer. I even installed win7 beta and played with it a little. However, when the release candidate of 7 came out, I decided, just for the hell of it, to go ahead and make it my primary operating system for a little while.
Since then, I could never go back to vista or xp. Basically it has the speed of xp (and my computer never had slowdown from vista - 7 is just faster), the looks of vista, and functionality beyond either of them. Mainly the new taskbar setup is worlds better than xp/vista or osx. The other thing I love about it is driver support - after installing it on multiple machines, I never needed to manually install drivers, including for printers. It just finds them, DLs them, and installs them itself.

Anyway, I digress (I'm starting to sound like an MS fanboy) - seven really is that much better (much better than going from xp to vista), so I'd recommend trying it at some point.

However, I find it kind of silly to want to get it "a few days early" considering I, and many other people, have been running it for many months as the release candidate version (which was free, available to all, and good until next march). I'll definitely upgrade, but I'm in no rush either, since I feel like I already have it.
by rob_93 September 25, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
I agree with you. I upgraded from XP and I have had no problems at all. Maybe a few performance issues here and there, but nothing I can't cope with. But then I tried the 7 beta, and that blew me away. It looked great, got a new taskbar, and it felt just as fast as XP ever did. However, I downgraded back to Vista so that I could get the retail copy. Basically, once 7 is out, I'm going to upgrade at the first chance I get.
by CBFTW September 25, 2009 2:55 PM PDT
I have Windows 7 Pro RTM from school on my laptop and I love it, but I have to disagree with the "ease" of the driver support, namely the automatic installation of the drivers. One of my printers was not installed and my video card (and my wife's, for that matter) were not installed completely, if at all. Also, my bluetooth radio was very weird. It worked, but the system wasn't reporting that it was even there. I didn't pair with my mouse, but my mouse was able to connect because it was paired already. When I actually went through the trouble of installing the Bluetooth radio's drivers, it took over an hour for the mouse to pair properly, get the wheel to work, and not have it disconnect every 10 seconds.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of 7, but the driver support isn't as perfect as they'd have you believe.
by oby3000 September 25, 2009 4:13 PM PDT
streamline ! i did the same thing now i cant stand xp or vista i got it running on an old 2003 computer i had to upgrade to 1 gb of ram but still on 512 mb of ram it still ran better than the old xp ever did it just adapts to different t hardware so much better. and i find xp is more buggy and requires so much more maintenance .
by OutOfBoxExperience September 27, 2009 9:09 AM PDT
A Good Thing???

Do you think its a good thing that Windows 7 is the NSA's most comprehensive Spyware Platform to date??

Is that why Russia, France, China, Cuba and most other Countries are moving to Open Source for Security?

Is that why Microsoft needs to scare you off of XP?

Is that why Outgoing Data is not blocked by default in the firewall?

Is that why antiviruses like AVG were rewritten to prevent you from blocking Internet access by programs on your computer like Firefox for example?
(You no longer get popups from your firewall asking if you want firefox and other programs to connect to the Internet - they just connect without your OK)

Is that why encryption programs rewritten for Vista and Windows 7 give you no indication of trouble yet trusted encryption programs give you warning that the contents of RAM are being copied to your hard drive ONLY after you open an encrypted disk and thereby compromising your encryption key which was located in RAM?

Is that why Windows 7 runs to the Internet to find a solution to the problem listed above after rebooting from a bluescreen? To aquire your encryption keys?
Download Drivecrypt 4.0 from 2cows if you doubt me and test it yourself. DC-4.0 Installs correctly without errors, creates an encrypted volume without errors and only Bluescreens AFTER your encryption key is in RAM and can be copied to your hard drive to be transferred accross the Internet the next time you have Net access!

Is that why Windows 7 can send your wireless network encryption key accross the Internet as well as your disk encryption keys stated above?
By transferring your wireless encryption key without your knowledge, local authorities can access your wireless network and access your encrypted data even after you disconnect from the Internet.

Is that why wireless networking hardware will soon be built into future netbooks and notebooks to prevent removal?

I have some words for it but "A good thing" isn't among them

Get a Clue
by streamline35 September 27, 2009 5:20 PM PDT
OutofBoxExperience - delusional much?
by CylonCheese September 29, 2009 5:40 AM PDT
to OutOfBoxExperience... dude... turn on the lights and get out of your mom's basement... seriously!
by rsetyono September 25, 2009 12:34 PM PDT
Well I was lucky to be chosen to host Windows7 Launch Party and for it will receive Windows Ultimate before October 10. I already built my own core i7, GTX295 video card ,12G DDR3, 2TB hard drive and plan to install 64bit version. I'm currently running Windows7 RC and impressed with it's speed and stability. Windows7 is simply awesome in 64bit mode whether gaming, multimedia, photoshop and and graphic intensive application. I look forward to have windows7 as my main OS.
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by Dan_Ackerman September 25, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
Really? You totally *have* to let us know what kind of stuff they send you for the party -- comment here or send me and email and/or some pics. -dan
by rufustel September 25, 2009 3:42 PM PDT
Dan--

To be provided to Windows 7 party hosts:

All hosts will receive:

* One limited Signature Edition Windows® 7 Ultimate
* One Deck of Playing Cards with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
* One Puzzle with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
* One Poster with Windows® 7 Desktop Design
* Ten Tote Bags with Windows® 7 Desktop Design for hosts and guests
* One table top centerpiece for decoration
* One package of Windows® 7 napkins

Also included in USA party packs:

* One package of streamers for decoration
* One package of balloons for decoration

Considerate of Microsoft, especially with respect to the free Win7 copy (and Ultimate, no less), and a good excuse to get people together, especially tech lovers, to play (no matter how much fun people might make fun of it) ...
by Solcry September 25, 2009 12:40 PM PDT
Actually, some universities already have Windows 7. Mine, Indiana University, got it one week ago.
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by peterj_1992 September 25, 2009 2:05 PM PDT
I got Win7 Pro RTM a few weeks ago for free b/c I'm a Computer Science student. I'm pretty sure most if not all CompuSci students (John Abbott College and Concordia University I'm sure about) get it as well as other MS software for free.
by CBFTW September 25, 2009 2:57 PM PDT
I got it from Roger Williams University about 4 weeks ago as part of my CIS major, along with a ton of other software that I'll never use (DOS 6.22 anyone?)
by Dan7637 September 25, 2009 3:02 PM PDT
i already have windows 7 ultimate x64

and that guy who said "built my own core i7, GTX295 video card ,12G DDR3, 2TB hard drive"

and im amazed with its speed and stability - uh *** you expect when you have hardware like that
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by pauldb September 25, 2009 3:12 PM PDT
I have been running Win7 RC and RTM and have found only one real difference. The RC 7100 does not see my nas drives and I must log in each time with a different set ofcredentials. The RTM sees everything correctly. I was also choosen to host a party and look forward to the free signed ultimate edition. Everything I have installed it on works just great. The real problem I see is what is Microsoft going to do after this. Once Win7 is the standard it's going to be much harder to dislodge than XP.
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by oby3000 September 25, 2009 4:21 PM PDT
lol who cares the goal is to get off xp than if they want to dis lodge 7 there just going to have to make the next os 10x better . which is good for us
by frobation September 25, 2009 6:04 PM PDT
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO my friend got hosted for the windows 7 party XD XD XD XD thats goonnna be soo leet and u get free balloons and nackins and stufff how epic lolll

microsoft was very considerative =D can't wait
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by DMBoricua September 25, 2009 8:35 PM PDT
Thats pretty cool. Now, for me who is a person who loves to suggest great computers to other people I now can encourage people to actually get a PC now without hesitation. I, myself have used Windows 7 Beta, RC, and its pretty solid. And they were just beta and RC. The computers now coming with the OS might be even more rock solid out of the box so I'd be comfortable suggesting computers with 7 to anyone.
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by jakemochas September 25, 2009 8:44 PM PDT
This is old news haha... windows 7 is amazing and i've been using it for 9 months since 6801
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by wiredchicken September 25, 2009 8:59 PM PDT
Like Internet explorer 7/8 beta you need to wait until the final release comes out, so they can sort out all of the technical problems. When IE was installed mcafee did not work right, the entire reason they publicly released windows 7 was to find/sort out problems different computer components, hardware setups, intel chips, graphics card. Its a very long, and worthwhile process. Windows 7 is going to be used by schools, companies, government, even airports.
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by streamline35 September 25, 2009 11:46 PM PDT
Yeah, I mean they are betas and RCs - you can't expect them to run smoothly, seeing as how the whole point of them is to sort out errors. Win7 RC is actually amazingly stable considering it's just a test version. Very encouraging.
by DMBoricua September 26, 2009 5:21 PM PDT
Exactly. If test versions of Win7 were already excellent enough, I cant wait for the final version. Personally I'm going to move up from Windows XP Professional 32-bit to an upgrade to Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. I'll be completely confident doing the upgrade, I love XP but everyone needs to move on to new stuff, and Windows 7 seems worth to upgrade from XP.
by grandehombre09 September 27, 2009 8:55 AM PDT
ATTENTION Students;

Check if your school has an MSDNAA affiliation with Microsoft.

If so you could get up to 50 copies of legitimate Windows 7 Professional.

Installs like a charm.

(p.s. Windows 7 is everything Windows Vista should have been.)
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by happygolucky101lol September 27, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
LOL, but I'm just going to wait until I can afford a Mac, I have a HP Vista Laptop that I got in Jan. 09, and I don't recommend installing the IDT Audio Driver UPDATE. Especailly if you have gone into Properties -> Sound -> Enhancements, it can/probably will kill your audio until you reinstall the driver using HP System Recovery -> Driver Recovery. BTW it's a DV4-1220us from Office Depot.
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by moneyrules September 28, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
Keep good old XP, I am sure microsft is pulling another vista rip off here
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by streamline35 September 28, 2009 12:07 PM PDT
Don't take our word for it - try the release candidate for yourself. After using the RC (not even a final version) for a few months now, I'm never going back to xp or vista.
by September 28, 2009 3:51 PM PDT
Honest question here. I am looking to switch to Windows 7 at home after using a Mac for a very long time. I use a PC at work and have various reasons why I want to make the switch. I don't want to engage in silly arguments about OSes. However, I can't find easy instructions online on how to make this switch. I found tons of information on the switch to a Mac and even a third party software solution for transferring over every file on your hardware (including songs, photos, and miscellaneous documents). I want the same easy solution for Windows 7 if available. Any assistance would be appreciated since I have tons of photos on iPhoto, music on iTunes and other random files that I want to bring on to a PC laptop. Any advice would be appreciated.
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by FrogPad1 September 30, 2009 7:45 AM PDT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te9O8HavQpQ

This also requires a user interface for multi touch tablets and mobiles . SoftFrog
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by catsrule09 October 8, 2009 6:52 AM PDT
I like Win7 I have the RTM version from my msdn account and it works great. Personally I think this version should have come out before vista. and then vista should have been the follow up to win 7. but as to the retail stores selling it early or the OEMs getting it early and selling it. I say good for them they are the ones who have to really sell this product not microsoft because MS has already gotten their money from them. Now the Win7 parties they sound a bit hokey, come out a signiture edition of a computer OS software? Its the same program if you got it from the store, but it just has Balmers signiture on it.
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