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September 16, 2009 8:00 AM PDT

Are ESL bulbs better than CFL or LED?

by Tim Hornyak
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Vu1's conceptual design for its R-30 bulb.

(Credit: Vu1)

A novel design for energy-efficient lightbulbs can produce incandescent-quality light and does not contain mercury like compact fluorescents (CFLs), according to manufacturer Vu1.

The Seattle-based firm has been working on an alternative to CFLs and LED lights for five years and just rolled out a demo video, below.

Vu1's Electron Stimulated Luminescence (ESL) lights can last up to 6,000 hours, about three to four times the lifespan of incandescents and comparable to CFLs. They produce 50 percent less heat than incandescents.

The ESL bulbs contain an electron source that fires electrons at a proprietary luminescent phosphor, which then glows. The screw-in apparatus is encased in standard lightbulb glass.

One disadvantage to CFLs is they contain about 5 milligrams of mercury, a small amount but enough to prompt some jurisdictions to ban dumping them in the trash. Burnt-out CFL bulbs should be disposed of with hazardous waste where possible or returned to the retailer, which then recycles them. The EPA recommends evacuating the room if a CFL bulb breaks.

ESL bulbs will be trash-bin disposable, according to Vu1.

Meanwhile, LED bulbs are energy efficient at around 40,000 to 50,000 hours a bulb but tend to be expensive. For instance, Panasonic's new EverLeds light will likely retail for around $40 when it hits stores in Japan next month.

Vu1's ESL bulb would be around $20 when it hits the market, according to spokesman James Quick. Vu1 might market the bulb in mid-2010 if its funding holds up. It plans to begin manufacturing at its EU plant by the end of this year.

The company says its ESL bulbs would produce light that's "essentially indistinguishable" from incandescents, contrasting it with the greenish or bluish light from CFLs and LEDs. To my eye, the ESL light in the video looks a shade colder than incandescent.

The prototype ESL R-30 bulb, which would replace a 65-watt incandescent bulb, has a color rendering index of more than 90 and a color temperature of 2800K, according to Vu1. It also turns on instantly and is fully dimmable.

ESL looks quite promising. Let's see if this bright idea makes it to market.

Crave freelancer Tim Hornyak is the author of "Loving the Machine: The Art and Science of Japanese Robots." He has been writing about Japanese culture and technology for a decade. E-mail Tim.
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by September 16, 2009 8:44 AM PDT
Seems very odd in the days we live in that there is no mention of efficiency and power consumption?

Half of the heat thrown off? Seems that means that they use much more power than the equivalent LED, and therefore might well cost more when their full life-cycle cost is factored in.
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by legerdemain September 16, 2009 9:14 AM PDT
ESL bulbs use "approximately 65-70% less energy" than incandescents while generating the same light, according to Vu1. More info at http://www.vu1.com/faq/faq.htm#power%20factor
by Mergatroid Mania September 16, 2009 10:26 AM PDT
OK, but how does that compare to a CFL or LED bulb? If it's close to the same, then this looks like it could be a good replacement.
by BCF1968 September 16, 2009 3:20 PM PDT
"OK, but how does that compare to a CFL or LED bulb? If it's close to the same, then this looks like it could be a good replacement. "

CFL use 25% the engery of standard bulbs. LEDs use less than 10%. These bulbs are half the price of LEDS $20 vs $40 but only last 1/16 as long. Sure a LED bulb is $40 but the thing will last over 11 years even if if left on 24/7.
by cvaldes1831 September 16, 2009 8:50 AM PDT
I've been watching new bulb technology for the past several years and I can honestly say that you cannot generalize the color temperature of CFLs. They have been all over the board and only in the last six months have I been relatively happy with all of my CFLs.

For both CFLs and LEDs, the quoted lumens has usually been far less than the same incandescent bulb. I've only dabbled a little with LEDs; it appears that many manufacturers of the consumer-grade bulbs have gone back to the drawing board. I picked up a pair of closeout LED bulbs at a reasonable price (that's really the only way to get LEDs at prices close to CFLs at this time).
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by ubikk23 September 21, 2009 8:47 AM PDT
The problem I see with this technology is that at the moment the bulbs are directional and will not replace most of the bulbs that people use. I have no recessed lighting in my home at all.

I don't see them as making substantial inroads until they can replace the omni-directional bulbs that make up the vast majority of bulbs used.
by sartor1 September 16, 2009 8:52 AM PDT
Great! CFL is a doomed technology. My local electric company is now sending out a kit of 4-5 cfl bulbs to all customers who request them. I have installed all cfl bulbs in my most used lighting.
Like the newly promised electric/hybrid autos coming online in a year or two, these esl bulbs can't get here too soon. Let's remove the mercury from the light bulbs, and get more electric autos on the road!
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by aloe65 September 28, 2009 6:03 AM PDT
Sartor,

No worry, CFL's are here to stay for a while, atleast until 2012-2015. at that time LED's look to take over as long as the price contiues to drop. In the mean time, Pure Spectrum has a breakthrough technology that is dimmable, highest power factor(.96, much better than VU1's ESL bulb) cold to the touch, $4-$6 range, "instant on", very good light quality, energy usage in proportion to the dimming level, and hope to be on shelves very soon in Wal Mart and/or Home Depot.
by bxwatso September 16, 2009 9:03 AM PDT
If I follow, this is basically a CRT (old time TV). I wonder if it throws off X-rays like a CRT.
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by legerdemain September 16, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
Good point. Vu1 says: "CRT and TV technology is based on delivering an electron ?beam? and then turning pixels on and off very quickly. ESL technology is based on uniformly delivering a ?spray? of electrons that illuminate a large surface very energy efficiently over a long lifetime."
by alegr September 16, 2009 10:15 AM PDT
X-rays require >25 kV electron energy. These bulbs don't have such voltages inside.
by MD_Willington September 16, 2009 9:12 AM PDT
"contain an electron source that fires electrons at a proprietary luminescent phosphor"

Hey wow that's amazing.. no, not really... <-- Can you detect the sarcasm?

That's exactly how a CRT works... so what they have made is a mini black and white CRT you screw into a medium base socket...
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by rapier1 September 16, 2009 10:09 AM PDT
Well, you must be thrilled to have the patent on it.
by alegr September 16, 2009 10:15 AM PDT
The trick is to have a cold cathode.
by JimBob88--2008 September 16, 2009 9:13 AM PDT
This seems to operate similarly to a fluorescent; a coating stimulated by electrons creating a glow.

Do they have a true full spectrum?

Do they flicker?

How do the 2 differ?
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by bxwatso September 16, 2009 12:22 PM PDT
the gas, including mercury vapor, in a fluorescent bulb is excited and gives off photons (like a neon bulb). the phosphors on the tube converts the UV frequency photons into visible light photons.

this new bulb does not have any special gas inside (some inert gas i guess). it has an electron gun that directly stimulates the photons on the glass.
by Davey44 September 16, 2009 10:18 AM PDT
I don't see the point in even announcing these until we have a straightforward comparison of energy efficiency with incandescent, cfl, and led bulbs. The emphasis on longevity while ignoring efficiency smell like distraction from the real answer to the title question.
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by cvaldes1831 September 16, 2009 10:22 AM PDT
Plus, there's the light quality issue. My first round of CFLs were pretty horrible. I eventually offloaded these to neighbors who were keen on getting free stuff.
by seanpavery September 16, 2009 4:01 PM PDT
Well there are a hell of a lot of LED bulbs out there and all of their efficiencies and efficacies are all over the board. They didn't wait.
by Anon-Y-mous September 16, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
At 3:47 in the video they have a prototype bulb in a socket. The socket appears like a CRT neck socket and has labels such as G3, H, A which would equate to Grid 3, Heater, Anode.

Then at 6:48 you can see the internal bulb (outside of the consumer friendly shell) that has numerous pins on the bottom. This, along with the other description of the technology, proves that this is basically nothing more than a black and white CRT tube miniatruized into a light bulb form factor.

This brings us to three certainties:

1) It will require a moderate amount (= cost, waste, weight, enviornmental damage) of electronics in order to convert 120V into a very high (thousands) of kilovolt to supply the anode that will help suck the electrons to the front of the tube with the phosphor--a flyback transformer and voltage regulators.
2) It uses an electron gun to create a stream of electrons to illuminate the phosphor, and possibly some type of deflection system to spread the beam evenly across the surface (again requiring more electronics and high voltage)
3) It will require the use of LEADED GLASS to reduce the level of X-Ray radiation that could escape from the glass.

The fears with this are that high voltage can cause unwanted interference with other communication devices, and cause significant dust attraction to the surface of the bulb.

Also, the fear is the thin amount of bulb surface could easily allow xray radiation to leave it. Fronts of classic CRT's are over 1" thick leaded glass. This appears to be no thicker than 1/64" of an inch. Therefore the protection must be the space from this bulb to the external surface in the consumer friendly housing. What if that is cracked and allows leakage out?

Finally, there must be lead used in the glass in the bulb or the protective housing. Assuming it is (since that is the only thing that could help reduce radiation levels), then what is the benefit of replacing enviornmentally hazardous mercury with lead? (Other than the fact that the lead isn't gaseous/airborne when the bulb is damaged?)


A lot of questions need to be answered about this technology before deeming it safe, let alone affordable. It sounds like it's still a real energy hog compared to LED and other options, so how can it be a viable alternative?
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by bozinbali September 16, 2009 12:07 PM PDT
After watching the video, I had some similar concerns. The similarity between this device and a CRT is pretty obvious, and makes it very easy to suppose that ESL and CRT devices share some of the same shortcomings, however erroneous that presumption may be.

I did some pretty basic research about CRTs and how they work, and discovered some interesting facts:

First, X-ray radiation requires far more voltage than would practically be available in a package this size. Another post quite correctly points out it takes about 25 KeV to accelerate electrons to sufficient energy levels to produce X-rays. Acceleration voltages of less than 25 KeV or so simply do not produce ionizing radiation.

Second, the X-ray exposures from modern CRTs are actually negligible by FDA standards. Most of the X-ray emissions in older televisions was the result of unsophisticated high-voltage regulation circuitry that caused electron acceleration voltages to be unreliable and often in excess of that critical 25 KeV number. This is no longer the case. Most modern CRTs only use a thin sheet metal shield, rather than a heavy lead one, to effectively reduce X-ray emissions to zero.

Third, since the energies involved are not sufficient to generate ionizing X-ray radiation, there is no need for leaded glass on the front of the bulb.

The units in the video are prototypes, and it is disingenuous to base any "fears" on their form factor. It makes sense that this technology would use similar test equipment and prototyping methods as conventional CRTs since the technologies are so closely related. I seriously doubt that all those electronics would make it into a production version, more for economic reasons that anything else.
by nicmart September 16, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
There should be some mention of the high-efficiency incandescent bulbs that GE says it will bring to market in 2010. As with the ESLs, GE claims its new bulbs will be 4x more efficient than conventional incandescents. Whose will be cheaper and last longer?
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by twistatech September 16, 2009 10:52 AM PDT
I have CFL bulbs all over in my house and nobodies face is ever green, sounds like a case of wishful advertising to me. The video posted is so cheesy talking about how crappy other bulbs are, and overstating the color difference of other bulbs is just exactly what I would expect from somebody who is showing up to the party to late and with a sub-par product. Lets face it, would you spend 6X the amount of money per bulb for a slight color difference? Me either. Mercury is not that big of a deal to me, considering we have been around it our entire life(mostly unknowingly). That is the only benefit to these "new" (crt) bulbs have. I myself enjoy the what I consider cleaner whiter light that I get from a CFL, no more yellow light for me!
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by pjk0 September 16, 2009 3:41 PM PDT
Caveat: I didn't watch the video or look at other materials from this vendor.
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If they are characterizing fluorescent light as "green" - that used to be true 20 years ago, but it's rarely true today. Today we have a variety of fluorescent tube designs with different color characteristics, most of which are better than the old green FL lights. And modern electronic ballasts reduce the flicker substantially.
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All that said, CFLs still have a number of problems:
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1) Despite the fact that color rendering is improved, it's still not very good except on very expensive, specially-designed photographic bulbs using esoteric combinations of phosphors. Most FL bulbs emit a "discontinuous spectrum" of light, which distorts color perception and seems "unnatural" to one extent or another.
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2) FL bulbs still flicker more than incandescents or LEDs, although it is substantially better than 20 years ago.
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3) FL bulbs produce lots of UV radiation, which has negative health impacts, and can accelerate fading of dyed/colored items. This is why you will NEVER see FL bulbs used in fine art galleries that display valuable works.
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4) The well-known issues with mercury content. I think it's way past time for the EPA to require LARGE LABELS on FL bulbs stating this - on many FL bulb packages, you can barely notice this warning.
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by mareesh September 18, 2009 6:04 AM PDT
Disposal of mercury containing CFLs has been something I've wondered about for years now. I know someone who just throws them in the trash when they die. Gotta wonder how long before millions of them will end up leaching mercury into the environment via landfills.
by SlurmSlurper September 17, 2009 2:02 AM PDT
Having used CFLs for around 12 years I can say that there is quite a lot of variance in the white temperature, resulting in a noticeable blue/red/green tint, although these problems are mostly confined to budget CFLs now. LEDs white light is of a blue hue, though there have been some recent breakthroughs in this regard. However incandescent bulb give out a very warm coloured white, which is far from sunlight's colour (which must be the ideal).

However, I must take issue with the LED light level/colour drift over its lifetime, as phosphor brightness and colour accuracy drifts off over time in a regular CRT, so you have to assume this is the same with ESLs!

Personally, I'm going to wait until my CFLs die or LEDs/OLEDs become a better option in terms of price, lifespan, efficiency and light quality.
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by seanpavery September 17, 2009 3:39 PM PDT
I wouldn't say that the video is overstating anything. I'll say that there statements are biased, but what do you expect! As a lighting designer, I can tell you that commercial CFLs and LEDs are far better than residential products, but they are typically more expensive as you would expect. Ballasts/power supplies are typically separate and away from the lamp, guaretneeing their life, and it is easy to select different color temperatures. Also, it is easy to find data on life time, mercury content, etc. At the residential level, things are a different story. On a screw in CFL, rarely have I seen color temp data on the lamp itself or in the part number. I bought one a while ago that was super blue. I finally dug up data for it on line and it turns out it was 6500K! So yes, there is a large variability with compact fluorescents. Plug-in CFLs are much easier to control this on than inexpensive CFLs.

LEDs have plenty of problems too. Again, the commercial products are well developed but not typically feasible for the average homeowner. The heat issues require significant heat sinking which requires a lot of extra metal. All white LEDs are made from blue LEDs which is another issue. The warmer white you want to go, the more phosphors are needed, lowering the efficiency. There is also a weird phenomenom with blue LEDs that no one has figured out yet, called droop (http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/optoelectronics/the-leds-dark-secret/0) which is limiting the advancement in this technology. Also, LEDs are really stingy about the ratios of chemicals put inside, so a batch of blue LEDs may have differnet hues of blue, requiring binning to separate all into similar colors. Reports say some have efficiencies of 100 lumens per watt, about the same as T5 linear fluoresecnts, but by the time they are installed in a fixture, they are usually only about 50 lumens per watt, no better than a compact fluorescent. In terms of color and performance, there is even more variability with LEDs right now. Even at a commercial level, people are talking that they need their own rubric of measurement.

In the dimming category, commercial products work well, but neither of these work well residentially.

ESL is trying to fit the niche market of inexpensive residential products to fill in for the shortcomings that now exist. Yes, $12 is expensive for a bulb, but if you think back 5-10 years, when screw in CFLs first came out, they all cost this much too, and everyone scoffed then when they were encouraged to pay for them. If it turns out these are worthwile, then there will be incentives and utilities will be handing them out like they do CFLs now. I'd like to give the inventors credit enough to think about xrays. I'm sure they are watching for that. I'm not convinced this will be the one solution that will take over LEDs and fluorescent, but I think it could have its place and piece of the pie. Unless, that is GE's little laser trick actually works. Then we will all be back to good old, yet revamped, incandescents. Lets not forget how many different lighting sources already exist. What's one more!
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by Vu1Corp September 17, 2009 4:44 PM PDT
We at Vu1 are very pleased to be covered on CNET. We have read through many of the posted comments and would like to suggest that anyone interested in getting the lastest facts on ESL, the technology, the features, the performance, go to the Vu1 Blog where I have posted a Q & A.
The blog is at vu1corp.blogspot.com Thanks again for the coverage and the comments.

T. Ron Davis
Chief Marketing Officer
Vu1 Corporation
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by sslPro September 18, 2009 7:19 AM PDT
This is still inferior to solid state lighting - With developements within my area ( Led Lighting)
an a 19 - bulbs will sell for around $10. pretty soon , I don't see this approach as being
a viable option. Although somewhat better then current old technologies - this appears
to me to be the equivilant of the wankel rotary engine ( automotive analogy).
I've seen prototypes of Oleds that are truly disruptive compared to tangents like this-
it is a crt on an edison base - I'm certain this is a non starter - Come on 6000 hrs and mercury
the sslPro
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by supafuzy September 18, 2009 8:11 AM PDT
I have tried to find this information, but have not yet found it....what is the voltage of the electron beam??
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by ubikk23 September 18, 2009 11:00 AM PDT
I want the lowest possible energy consumption. Therefore I'm going to stick with CFL and LED. I've already been experimenting with LEDs around the house, such as under counters and in closets and backlighting for the TV and so forth.
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by aloe65 September 19, 2009 7:21 AM PDT
Pure Spectrum has now patented a CFL buld that is fully dimmable(no flicker or dying out), instant on, cold to the touch, highest power factor(.96), and the energy usage is proportional to the dimming level, the light output is that of an incadescent and the price will be in the $4-$6 range. This is the answer to the NEW CFL!

The have numerous patents and are manufacturing and filling orders now worldwide. Utility companies are buying them up in the droves for their free distribution program. The utility companies love them becasue it costs them less to deliver the power to these bulbs due to the extrememly High Power Factor. ...which means the utility companies charge you less!

The also have a dimmable balast for linear flouresecents(yes, you will be able to dim flourescents), also at a fraction of the cost of normal ballast due to the fewer parts that they use in the balast. This will be huge, imagine a high rise office building in which the flourescent lights dim with the amount of sunlight coming in,....daylight harvesting at a fraction of the cost...HUGE SAVINGS.

Hopefully the bulbs will be on Home Depot and Wal Mart shelves soon.
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by pjk0 September 20, 2009 4:24 PM PDT
COLOR QUALITY

I just want to reiterate, for people who keep referring to the color of CFL (or any other lighting) simply in terms of the "Kelvin rating", this is NOT the whole picture.

The reason why fluorescent lighting has historically been considered so poor from a color fidelity point of view isn't because of the overall "color temperature" (ie Kelvin rating, like "5000k", "6500k" etc), although that was an issue for very early flourescents.

The reason is that the spectral distribution of color is DISCONTINUOUS. This is a major distinction between the typical FL light source and incandescent. We can easily color-correct an incandescent source to "daylight" with a simple warming filter. In most cases, you CANNOT do this with fluorescent because the color spectrum is not smooth, and because there are now probably dozens of different FL phosphor combinations, you cannot easily determine which you will encounter.

Actually this problem is even worse with Mercury-vapor and Sodium-vapor lighting - but since those are typically only used for industrial or street-lighting purposes, it's not as much of an issue.

In order to distinguish one color from another, we need the entire visible spectrum of color present in our light source. Yes an incandescent bulb is "warm" or "yellowish" - but this simply "tilts" or "shifts" the color spectrum (as seen in a graphed view) rather than turn it into a "roller-coaster" like a typical FL bulb does.

What this means is that when you view an item under an FL light (and especially under Mercury-vapor or Sodium-vapor), your eye has a more difficult time distinguishing one color from another - this is independent from "color temperature" or "color shift". Go outside sometime under some sodium-vapor or mercury-vapor streetlights or industrial lighting, and look at how "strange" and even "monochromatic" colors appear. This is what I'm talking about. If for example you try to take a picture with a digital camera, your camera will not be able to find any white-balance setting that will correct this. This is not the case with incandescent lighting.

As usual, the various entities with an axe to grind (and ignorant consumers) end up oversimplifying the issue. It's not as simple as it seems.
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by pjk0 September 20, 2009 4:26 PM PDT
"...We can easily color-correct an incandescent source to "daylight" with a simple warming filter..."

Sorry - meant to write "with a cooling filter".
by ubikk23 September 21, 2009 8:36 AM PDT
Color control for CFL's is getting better all the time, for example GE's reveal bulbs are quite balanced.

I'm already of the persuation that I like the lighting from my new fluorescents better than the old incandescents. I still had a few old incandescents in lamps that weren't used often and they were starting to stick out like a sore thumb when they were turned on with the other lamps. I've now got 90% CFLs in all major lighting and they work well. I've still got one halogen torchier and a few halogens in fixture lighting and one halogen reading lamp. The rest is all CFL. I can light the house up twice as nicely for almost half the cost.
by pjk0 September 22, 2009 1:40 AM PDT
@ubikk23:

Given GE's borderline fraudulent marketing of the previous generation of "Reveal" incandescent lighting, I won't be holding my breath about alleged wondrous color rendering abilities of a "Reveal" CFL bulb either.

The post whose URL I'm pasting below goes into some detail about why the incandescent version of "Reveal" bulbs were not what they were cracked-up to be, and is a decent overview of the kind of issues I've been pointing out with CFL color-rendering.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1000&message=22418166


In short: at the very least, you need a "CRI" (color rendering index) spec in addition to the traditional "kelvin" rating to ascertain whether a lighting source has a decent chance of looking like "natural light". And that doesn't even tell the whole story.

Now I grant you - many people are not as picky as us photographers are when it comes to lighting quality. But I simply want to reiterate that we are in many ways comparing apples and oranges when it comes to these assumptions that certain forms of energy-saving bulbs are just "incandescent without the energy cost" - when it comes to color quality as well as other ergonomic and health factors.

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by supafuzy September 22, 2009 12:25 PM PDT
What is the voltage of the Electron Beam???
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