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September 9, 2009 1:06 PM PDT

iPhone needs buttons for games to be taken seriously

by Jeff Bakalar
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At today's Apple event, the company devoted a generous amount of time to various charts and numbers declaring that the iPhone and the iPod Touch offer much more in terms of gaming than the Sony PSP and the Nintendo DS.

iPhone and iPod Touch games have a lot going for them. The titles are cheaper, they offer tilt functionality, and the graphics are better than what the Nintendo DS can display. All that aside, it's tough to consider the iPhone as a legitimate gaming platform until Apple can offer some sort of tactile button functionality.

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(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)

First, let's get a few things straight. In terms of casual gaming, you cannot beat what Apple has to offer. There are countless quick and easy games that fit well on the Apple platform. No one is booting up a PSP game for the 15 minutes you'd sit in a waiting room or the time standing in line at the deli counter. So while that section of the gaming market seems sealed up, the same cannot be said for the more hardcore action/adventure and shooter games.

The way it currently stands, controlling such games on the iPhone or the iPod Touch is a frustrating mess. Players must navigate using a virtual D-pad, which isn't able to provide the accuracy or physical feeling an actual control pad offers on the PSP and the DS. We're delighted to see franchises like Madden and Assassin's Creed head to the platform, we just wish there was a better way to control these titles. Until that day comes, iPod Touch and iPhone games will be stuck under a glass ceiling of shake, tilt, and tapping.

There's no denying that Apple has the upper hand here. No one wants to carry around three devices when one can handle everything. As we've written before, Apple can easily take over the portable gaming market with just a few moves. The first step toward that goal--whether it be an add-on or hardware change--is to add buttons.

Before covering games and gear for CNET Reviews, Jeff Bakalar dabbled in film and video production. An avid writer, reader, and gamer, Jeff is also an obsessive New Jersey Devils hockey fan. Catch him live every day as the co-host of CNET's infamous podcast, The 404.
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by pooyan69 September 9, 2009 1:25 PM PDT
Better then the PSP or DS? Hmmm. Maybe the DS but not a chance with the PSP. Great Apple marketing though
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by yeks1 September 9, 2009 1:48 PM PDT
Better than the DS???..are you serious?....the ipod touchis no where near the DS ...Steve actually didn't know what he was talking about when he said that.
by C433Z September 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT
But there aren't any good AAA titles for the Touch. The DS has tons of great 5 minute games as well, so I'd take my DS any day over the iPod Touch
by make_or_break September 9, 2009 8:27 PM PDT
Better than neither. There's no replacing tactile mechanical controls, even if it's the rather mundane ones on either the DS or PSP. I'll take either my DS Lite or 1st gen PSP for gaming over my 2G Touch.
by jpsalerno September 10, 2009 1:40 AM PDT
Read it again. Clearly you didn't quite comprehend what he said.
by carbine68 September 10, 2009 8:50 AM PDT
I have an ipod touch, I won't waste my money on any other gaming device. Hardware addons will come soon. I am not a fan of apple but i have to say that they have done a lot of things right and I have been dragged into owning other Apple hardware because it is better quality and I am not happy to admit that but that is just the way it is.
by jc250 September 10, 2009 3:36 PM PDT
better than both the psp and ds
the ds isnt that good, and the psp needs a second analog stick to have any real gaming qualities

the ipod touch can get annoying sometimes, when you press something in a game, and it doesnt work or the fake analog stick display can get frustrating as it is not as easy or accurate to use as a typical xbox or ps3 controller
by tarh33l September 14, 2009 9:54 AM PDT
The DS may have a slight edge on the touch (even though it doesnt' have an iPod or a web browser, or somewhat unlimited capability to evolve) but, it the iPhone has the edge over all. A device that can place calls, browse the web from just about anywhere, send text and emails, download apps from a selection of tens of thousands, and have the ability to evolve through OS updates, and attachable hardware has a much, much bigger edge than any other portable gaming device that has ever been on the market. This is undeniable.
by hightechfanboy September 9, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
apple is not gonna put physical button on a iphone or ipod touch, it would make it look ugly and apple doesnt make ugly products. a solution could be a 3rd party add-on like a wraper. but then it wouldnt be that portable because it would be to big and you dont wanna be carrying and extra controller. theres some good games with good graphics but you cannot compare a iphone with a psp or ds.
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by C433Z September 9, 2009 3:00 PM PDT
I'm sure a third party could make a good add-on peripheral. Imagine a protective case for the Touch, except the back of it could slide open and have buttons.
by make_or_break September 9, 2009 8:32 PM PDT
@C433Z,
Guess it would depend on how ungainly those add-ons are going to be. The big attraction of my Touch is its sleek form factor. Suppose if the peripheral on the Touch makes the combo about the same size as the DS Lite, then maybe it might work.
by carbine68 September 10, 2009 8:57 AM PDT
What if if you just had a small d-pad with buttons that folded up and you could connect to your keychain. You unfold it and it connects with bluetooth. or you can buy an extra wire that would tether it to the device. I would do that, and it would be pretty easy to make. If you can add buttons to a bluetooth headset I don't see how hard it would be to create something that is just as small with buttons. Heck I just designed the thing in my head and it is awesome! Can't wait for a third party connection for this thing. And with the iphone 3gs being faster you could easily put some really nice games on the I devices that require the full hardware that is currently installed.

And if you think about it, what hardware is hidding under all of that glass. Apple did the same thing with the OS 3 update, why not do the same with all of its new devices. They can make nice profit to make people upgrade there software to unlock hardware that is on there devices. I think all companies should adopt this, at least from a business stand point. I would be a little mad at the companies that did this but i think in the end I would cave.
by Random_Walk September 9, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
"All that aside, it's tough to consider the iPhone as a legitimate gaming platform until Apple can offer some sort of tactile button functionality."

You know? Back in 1998 I recall saying that there was no way a first-person shooter would be worth a damn on a console ...unless there were a way to plug in a keyboard, a mouse, and a means to get some keyboard bindings together. And yet, folks seemed to get on just fine with consoles, enough to expand it well beyond anything it ever had before.

Same story here - I think they'll get on just fine as they are, since a PSP or DS can't do everything that an iPod Touch can do (let alone an iPhone), do it in that small of a form factor, with that level of graphics, all at the same time.

Also, let's think about this for a moment.

The main demographics for the DS and PSP are looking forward to one day graduating high school.

By contrast, the main demographic for the iPod Touch and iPhone doesn't need to ask mommy for cash before they get a new game for the thing. ;)
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by ywkhgqo September 9, 2009 3:22 PM PDT
you are so completely wrong that its hilarious. Most adults I know don't even know what a Touch is.
Its mostly teenagers that have the touch buddy. Most of them didn't pay for it themselves.

You mac users make it so hard to not follow the stereotype of "holier than thou" mac mentality.
by purcell429 September 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT
@ywkhgqo

Apparently most adults you know live in a cave if they have never heard of an iPhone or iPod touch.
by Firehazel September 9, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
@ ywkhgqo
My mom is not very computer savvy and know what an iPod touch is. The autistic children she teaches know what one is too. I plan to buy my own iPod touch once i get a job. I will pay for it, just like I pay for my phone. by myself.

Back to subject. 3rd party case esque controller. make it al la gameboy advance. the original one.
by Random_Walk September 10, 2009 6:47 AM PDT
"you are so completely wrong that its hilarious"

...and your evidence for this is based on... sheer assertion that goes against established facts? Umm, sure.

"Most adults I know don't even know what a Touch is. "

You live in the Ukraine or something, right? ;)

Lookit - I'm not going to bust your chops, but let's get real here. The majority of PSP and DS users are kids, pure and simple. The reason why is that the devices were built and marketed primarily as portable game platforms - something to keep little Johnny quiet and busy while mom drives him to soccer practice. The iPod Touch OTOH was built and marketed as a new-generation portable entertainment center (video, music, games, apps of all kinds, etc.) for folks of all ages, but it's usually the adults who buy them.

To be fair, the DS has been trying to break out of its self-imposed mold (ads featuring adults using it, games such as Brain Age, etc), but the majority of its market is still too young to drive, buy alcohol, buy smokes, etc. The PSP tried briefly to break out of the demongraphic (featuring young adults being cool while carrying or using one), but it too is still stuck. After all, the two devices have "grown-up" versions in the PS3 and (to a good extent) the Wii. It simply is what it is.

The iPod (touch included) is a bit more universal, given what it was built to do and how it was marketed.

It's pretty simple, really...
by dnrbnx September 9, 2009 1:47 PM PDT
If iPhone games continue to be developed without a controller, I doubt a third party peripheral would be taken seriously by developers unless supported by Apple. As Random_Walk has said, developers will continue to find a way to fine tune touch controls.

Then again, maybe the touch screen is just a gaming gimmick (*cough* Wii Remote) that, while entertaining for a while, will eventual lose it's novelty and require hard core gamers to return to the tried and true controllers.

Having said that, as a traditional gamer, I would whole-heartedly support a third party peripheral that would add buttons to the iPhone's gorgeous screen. Alas, the iControlPad looks as though it will be vaporware :(
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by yeks1 September 9, 2009 1:56 PM PDT
I don't think the iPhone/iPodTouch can be considered a legitimate gaming platform period.

OK, lets look at the title.

"Gaming Platform".....buying an Iphone...for gaming...??...doesn't sound rite does it.

Now lets say someone does buy it for gaming....what in the world does steve jobs thinks powers his Ipod's.....NVIDIA???..
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by Random_Walk September 10, 2009 6:49 AM PDT
Err, you do realize that gaming does not require 'legitimacy', right? Also, most folks buy an iPod Touch for more than just gaming... most buy it for music, video, a whole slew of mobile apps, etc.
by yeks1 September 13, 2009 12:45 AM PDT
No..it's doest require legitimacy but the title says "to be taken seriously".

And that's exactly what i said...people won't buy the touch for gaming..so it makes no sense for steve jobs to try to say the touch was better than the ds or psp.
by iconoclast04 September 9, 2009 1:59 PM PDT
Ok, but how do you propose controlling and FPS on the iPhone/iPod Touch? With a dual analog controller, there's a fairly natural way, with one stick as move, the other as look. Plus, you can shoot with the trigger while you're moving and looking. How are you supposed to do this on an iPhone? I mean, I could see it working with an RTS, but not for an FPS.
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by Random_Walk September 10, 2009 6:53 AM PDT
...move the whole device to look around - tilt it to move around - tap a thumb on the screen to pull the trigger, while the other thumb switches weapons? This isn't totally out of reach for the device (though it would be hell to code for).

Personally, I'm content with a keyboard and mouse to get the job done, and can't stand using a console controller. That said, I'm not going to sit around and proclaim that it's impossible to play it in ways other than my preference, y'know?
by TheHBK23 September 9, 2009 2:04 PM PDT
Apple has to know, that if they came out with an Ipod Play? Game? Something, with buttons, for just 10 to 20 bucks more than the ipod touch, game over. Even I would buy one. But they are trying to make it so that all the stuff they sell, apps, music, videos, can be used on all devices. Thats why they are not really changing up the ipod line much because those things cant use apps. It is a tricky question.
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by Rod Roddy September 9, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
Hell yes it does, its **** without them. But this is something Apple will NEVER add onto the ipod/iphone--actual physical buttons? aint gonna happen.
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by Rod Roddy September 9, 2009 2:07 PM PDT
Hell yes it does, its ******* without them. But this is something Apple will NEVER add onto the ipod/iphone--actual physical buttons? aint gonna happen.
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by Daniel-Castaneda September 9, 2009 2:16 PM PDT
i wish there was like a control attachment that i could connect to iphone
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by Flynn_p2008 September 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT
I like how every electronic device eventually turns into a gaming platform.
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by Firehazel September 9, 2009 6:57 PM PDT
it's sad but true. and fun.
by exjoburger September 9, 2009 2:52 PM PDT
Some games just need tactile controls. I play games on my iPhone, but I prefer the PSP, and yes even the DS - which has tactile controls and a touch screen, well, sort of.
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by churchrd September 9, 2009 3:23 PM PDT
They could just put a couple shoulder buttons on the opposite side of the volume rocker. That would even be a huge help, and wouldn't change the aesthetics much. Even using the volume rocker, as is, for some game functionality could work.

I agree buttons would be nice, but the on screen controls are getting better. I'm playing madden as we speak(type).
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by iconoclast04 September 9, 2009 3:49 PM PDT
What would be so wrong with making the iPhone a slider with a physical qwerty keyboard and buttons for gaming? To me, the slider is the best way to go for touchscreen smartphones. The touchscreen is great as a mouse replacement - for navigating menus, clicking, etc - but tactile keys are still better for typing and for gaming. If they made it a slider, they could retain their clean aesthetic look, while adding functionality and versatility. Other companies have proven that you can retain a slim profile with a slider design, and you still have a full size touchscreen. What's wrong with this?
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by purcell429 September 9, 2009 4:30 PM PDT
Well.... besides the fact that it would be twice the size?
by iconoclast04 September 9, 2009 5:05 PM PDT
there are slider phones out there that have a fairly thin profile...it wouldn't have to be that bulky.
by Firehazel September 9, 2009 6:57 PM PDT
it's not quite the same then.
by Devo2011 September 10, 2009 6:32 AM PDT
Then you want a different phone.
by BarceMessi September 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT
ya mario kart graphics on a iphone would be a dream. i have a 3g s as well. and graphics plus in depth games blow
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by ComeToTerms September 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT
OK, WE KNOW APPLE WANTS TO RULE THE WORLD BUT UNTIL THEY REDO BOTH THE iPHONE AND THE iTOUCH, THERES NO WAY THESE CAN BE SERIOUS PORTABLE GAME UNITS. TOUCH SCREEN GAMING SUCKS.- YOU DEFINITELY NEED SOME SORT BUTTON THAT WILL BE A MAIN CONTROLLER. GET USE TO THE iPHONE AND iTOUCH FOR NOW BUT I'M SURE WHEN THE NEW DESIGN HITS THE MARKET, IT WON'T LOOK LIKE WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY USE TO SEEING. AFTERALL, THEY WANT IT TO BE A PORTABLE GAME PLAYER, A TABLET PC, A PHONE, A SUPER MP3 PLAYER, A CAMERA, A VIDEO CAMERA, A VOICE RECODER, A MIRROR, A REMOTE CONTROL FOR THE UPCOMING OLED HOME TELEVISION FROM APPLE IN 2011 AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE. THATS A LOT FOR A FLAT DEVICE WITH NO BUTTONS, LOL. YOUR NUMBER ONE QUESTION SHOULD BE WHEN DO I GIVE UP THAT LUMP SUM OF CASH TO APPLE? IS THIS PARTICULAR DEVICE GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE NEXT 3-5YRS? OR WHEN I BUY IT, WILL I GET STIFFED WHEN THE NEW VERSION HITS THE SHELVES AND I'M STUCK WITH THE ONE I JUST BOUGHT 4 MONTHS AGO. SHAME. MARKETTING IS A MF'ER.
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by purcell429 September 9, 2009 4:31 PM PDT
WHAT?
by Nakarou September 9, 2009 6:31 PM PDT
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUD NOISES!!!!!!!!!
by Devo2011 September 10, 2009 6:32 AM PDT
@Nakarou

LOL
by NJMetsHero September 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT
Maybe Nintendo will fail one day and Apple will buy is and put Mario on the iPhone. That'd be cool.
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by 4look4rd September 9, 2009 4:24 PM PDT
there is a simple way to fix this.... add a qwerty keyboard (the lack of one is whats keeping me away from buying an iphone) and two analog sticks (one for movement, and other to be used as gaming buttons)
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by Nakarou September 9, 2009 6:36 PM PDT
The ipod touch beats both the DS and PSP

The DS' growing library full of random little kid games and lame graphics
The PSP has better graphics but they haven't really come out with anything good for it plus it has a long load time for most games and can lag while in game

I just got Resident Evil 4 for the touch and I can't put it down, it has smooth graphics and it even gave me a few scares and chills on the very first level. If they start making games like that, than apple dominates in the market.
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by donsynstelien September 9, 2009 7:06 PM PDT
Um. Author... I think that the proof is in the numbers of games sold and you appear blind to them. If the iPod is no gaming system, then the XBox, PSP, Playstation 3 and Nintendo Wii are all in the same boat.

In your opinion, my box of tabletop "games" are apparently not games. My cards? Not games. Let go of your button fetish, you will not miss it.
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by carbine68 September 10, 2009 9:28 AM PDT
Agreed.
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