August 19, 2009 8:16 AM PDT

PS3 Slim: Everything you need to know

by John P. Falcone
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The PS3 Slim is now a reality. The compact console will be available on September 1 for $299. Our review sample just arrived, and our hands-on evaluation will follow soon. We don't expect any real performance departures from the current console--the changes are more cosmetic than anything else. In the meantime, we've got Brian Tong's hands-on video on the PS3 Slim (above), along with a quick mini-FAQ on the new PS3 (below). If you have a question that's not addressed here, put it in the comments, and we'll do our best to find an answer.

When can I get the new PS3 Slim?
It'll be widely available as of September 1 for $299.

What are the major physical differences between the new PS3 Slim and the previous versions of the PS3?
Sony has pretty much crammed the same hardware into a smaller form factor. The new chassis is thinner vertically and horizontally, but it is deeper than the previous PS3--it's almost a square. The front power and eject buttons are now actual, depressable keys (not touch-sensitive), and there's also no standby power switch on the console's rear panel.

Are there any notable feature differences?
The new model has a 120GB hard drive, up from the 80GB model on the previous entry-level model. Geeks will lament that Sony has removed the ability to install a second operating system, but that won't be missed by the vast majority of mainstream users.

Does it play PS2 games?
No dice. Like the recent PS3 models, the PS3 Slim does not offer backward compatibility with PS2 game discs. However, it can play older PS1 titles (on disc or via download from the PlayStation Store.)

Are there flash card readers?Again, no. Ports for Compact Flash, Memory Stick, and SD cards existed on the earliest PS3 models, but they were dropped on more recent iterations. If you want to access digital media files, you'll need to put them on a USB drive, burn them to a disc, or access them over the network.

Any change to media support?
No differences that we can discern. The PS3 Slim still plays all manner of Blu-ray movies, DVDs, and CDs, and it doubles as an excellent media streamer from other PCs or DLNA-capable media servers.

What's in the box?
Just the basics: the console, a single Dual Shock 3 controller, USB cable (for charging the controller), AC power cord, and composite AV cable. There are no bundled games in this version of the PS3.

Did Sony finally add an IR port, so I can use my universal remote control?
In a word: nope. That's our biggest gripe with the new model. Owners of Logitech Harmony remotes, however, can still use the $60 adapter that will translate IR commands to Bluetooth.

Is the hard drive still user-upgradeable?
Yes--you can still do a DIY upgrade with a standard 2.5-inch laptop hard drive. We'll update our How-To video to give you a step-by-step guide for the PS3 Slim soon.

Can I stand the PS3 Slim vertically?
Out of the box, the answer is no. Ironically, it's so skinny, it'll tip over too easily. However, Sony is pledging to sell a stand separately--in other words, you'll be paying $24 for a hunk of plastic.

Is it really cheap-looking?
Opinions in the office are divided on this one. Some folks are really chafing at the textured matte finish, saying it makes the unit look cheap and plasticky--like a toy. Others (like me) prefer that to the shiny piano black finish of earlier PS3s, which was a magnet for fingerprints. Editor Jeff Bakalar, meanwhile, likens the square-ish design of the Slim to that of a record player.

Is it true that a 250GB PS3 Slim is coming soon?
Apparently so. Sony's made no official comment, but a more capacious PS3 Slim will certainly hit store shelves at some point--likely at the $399 price point.

Should I wait for the Slim, or buy one of the existing "PS3 Fat" consoles, now that they've also been cut to $299?
Unless you're particularly averse to the new design, it's definitely worth waiting a couple of weeks.

Got any other questions? Ready to make the jump to the PS3? Or is the Slim a letdown? Let us know in the comments below.

Additional coverage:
>> Sony officially announces $299 PS3 Slim
>> PlayStation 3 firmware 3.00 details
>> Photo: PS3 "Fat" vs. PS3 Slim
>> 12 ways to make the PS3 perfect (May 13, 2008)

John P. Falcone covers home theater and network entertainment products. He's been writing for CNET since 2002.
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by ewgdsg August 19, 2009 8:44 AM PDT
you guys should do another prizefight with this ps3 and the 360 elite
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by jpfalcone August 19, 2009 9:05 AM PDT
I'd say that is a definite. We'll wait for the rumored Elite price cut to become official, though.
by Eludium-Q36 August 19, 2009 10:31 AM PDT
Why do another comparison ? None of the hardware/firmware/ports have changed, it performs the same as before, just in a smaller pkg.
by August 19, 2009 10:44 AM PDT
"Why do another comparison?"

Because pricing influences the comparison, along with the fact that it runs even more quietly than the previous model, which was already more quiet than the 360.
by mgheff August 19, 2009 8:09 PM PDT
i second that
by tmt345 August 20, 2009 2:30 PM PDT
Its not worth it, on cnet everything PS3 always loses. When the PS3 Slim came out there were like 5 articles complaining/saying how it will fail/comparing to a laptop. I rarely come here anymore because its turned into the Fox News of the gaming world.

Like in the last "prizefight" they were comparing their graphics and they gave the PS3 the same score as the 360 and said "multiplatforms look the same so yeah" I was just like *** when I saw that, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, Mass Effect 2 (this one was actually causing 360's to RROD LMFAO talk about maxing out!) and Forza 3 look terrible in comparison to Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, GOWIII, Heavy Rain, GT5, and the Last Guardian. You have to look at the exclusives for graphics on the PS3 because the devs don't want to sacrifice one platforms sales!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KslPVlEZLE&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ_A2Tpz2UM&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quP48Gb0MEM&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wntxliJZvB8&hd=1 (some is gameplay but all of this is rendered realtime)

Tell me thats possible on the 360!
by mgheff August 30, 2009 8:49 AM PDT
I agree 100%. Now the price cuts are in, time for a Prizefight.
by mdub311 August 19, 2009 8:44 AM PDT
That's pretty cool that they didn't remove the internal power supply and were still able to make it that much smaller. That power brick on the 360 is HUGE!!!
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by Slick1of2 August 19, 2009 8:59 AM PDT
I was just wondering, does anyone know if Microsoft is going to put in a Blu-ray player into their new Xbox? Would that really hurt the PS3 if they did, or is the PS3's media capabilities that much better?
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by JamesEitz August 19, 2009 9:42 AM PDT
Microsoft will never put BR drive in the Xbox.

They are aiming at the On demand content. You can already DL hd movied and watch netflix.
by lil-yankee August 19, 2009 9:48 AM PDT
There has been some unreliable rumors about this, it looks like the logical move but then there is a business part to it. As you should know, Sony was the main supporter of blue-Ray and carried the hurtle over to the ps3, lost lots of money and is currently last in this gen for their commitment to blue-Ray which is a plus on the system but adds yo the price considerably. You should also know that Microsoft backed HD-DVD and put Sony on the spot while ripping of consumers with a recycled technology like the xbox 360. (and I say recycled because 360 added nothing new to the game, better online gaming, granted, but they didn't invented it so... Recycled it is)
So Now that HD-DVD is gone I think thy are simply going to stick to Downloadable content. At some point they will need to find better mediums of physical media as games become more complex and space demanding but I think that will be in 2-3 years. I think Microsoft will simply have their own format to xbox games, why? Well, Sony is the main seat in the blue-Ray board and I'm not saying they won't sell licenses to Microsoft, they probably will be expensive and add to the 360 price, and that wouldn't be a good thing. Sony put the leg deeper with all those investments but could it be they saw all this comming? Nothing has happened yet but the future looks bright for Sony, for once
by Slick1of2 August 19, 2009 12:47 PM PDT
Very good points there yankee. I don't currently own any game console. I've been a PC gamer my whole life, but I recently became interested in Xbox Live..... (I was pulled in by Felicia Day and her video "Do You Want To Date My Avatar.") http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urNyg1ftMIU .......I know, random.

I had never seen the Xbox Live site before and thought it was kinda neat. I'm the master of patience, so if I hear Microsoft wants to put a Blu-ray player in the Xbox I might consider getting it, with their whole NATAL thing of course. But I do not know much about the PS3's media package, so I guess I should look into that too. But then again, most of my media is stored in hardrives that I connect to my WD media player and they are mostly all at 720p. I am assuming that media libraries like Xbox Live allow you to download videos/movies at 720p, so wouldn't Blu-ray quickly become obsolete with the expanding download market?
by atcj0611 August 19, 2009 4:25 PM PDT
They also likely wouldn't want to because they would be putting money into sony's pocket by adding Blu-ray being that Sony gets a chunk of all blu-ray sales, no matter who micro$oft gets their blu-ray hardware from, since the members of the blu-ray consortium (including Sony,Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Thomson, LG, Hitachi, Sharp, and Samsung) split the profits on the sales.
by chrkeller August 19, 2009 9:03 AM PDT
I will stick with my launch 60 GB launch version with ps2 BC and memory card ports.
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by bulletstorm1 August 19, 2009 10:12 AM PDT
I agree, I will keep my shiny launch PS3 60GB with ps2 BC, touch turn on/eject instead of press buttons, and I dont have to pay extra to have it standing. The original launch PS3 kicks behind like no other.
by The_JBJ August 19, 2009 10:17 AM PDT
I'm with you. I love my Launch Day PS3. I had to beg my wife to let me buy it, but I use it on the daily as a media server and BluRay Player. Also, I've had several people offer to buy me the new PS3 in exchange for mine since it has the Backward Compatability. Funny thing though, I haven't played a PS2 game since the month I bought this thing :)
by hightechfanboy August 19, 2009 9:16 AM PDT
I like the "fat" ps3 better, it has a more luxury appeal, i have one already and I might get a second one if I can find some exiting ps3 bundled with some good games or blu-rays(I have KZ2 already)
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by st430 August 19, 2009 9:17 AM PDT
One question.
how may USB ports?
my old 60G (now 500G 7200rpm) first gen. machine has 4 usb, all media ports,and
plays all ps2 game...
really not sure if it's a "upgrade" or downgrade" to get the new machine since there is no info on
if the CPU is faster or if the blue ray disc drive is spinning faster or the same.
I know the CPU is different and since it's using less power, it generate less heat and hence
the small heat sink that makes the new machine smaller and lighter...
(much the the weight of the old machine was that huge heat sink.)
It would be nice if cnet can post some CPU info and BR drive info in compare.
Since that is the heart of the machine and the rest are cosmetic and fluff.
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by August 19, 2009 9:56 AM PDT
There are two USB ports, though as always you can plug in a USB hub if more are needed.

It's the same Cell processor, just smaller, so it will run at the same speed.
by Embren August 19, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
The Blu-Ray drive still reads at 2x, and the cpu is now 45nm. The Slim is roughly 1/3 lighter, 1/3 smaller and uses 1/3 less power than the original.
by newobm August 19, 2009 9:20 AM PDT
Is it still as loud as a freight train?
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by moochie_gamer August 19, 2009 11:15 AM PDT
I bought an 80gb PS3 in February & I never hear it when it's running games or movies. My old PS2 is far louder. This slim PS3 could be just as quiet, depending on design elements.
by jwilson61904 August 19, 2009 11:31 AM PDT
It's strange that I've just started hearing about this recently. Has this always been an issue? I'm not saying that its not an issue, I'm just suprised that I hadn't heard about it until now. I have a 60gb original launch model and it runs incredibly quiet. In the past, I only heard about other game systems being loud.
by jpfalcone August 19, 2009 11:33 AM PDT
I agree with the other posters--I've never found the old PS3s to be loud, especially compared to the Xbox 360, which has extremely loud disc-spinning noise. That said, I've heard the complaint before--I think that some PS3 units (certain SKUs, perhaps) must be unusually loud, while others are quiet.
by chrkeller August 19, 2009 12:11 PM PDT
My ps3 (60 GB launch) is silent with DVD movies, Bluray movies and ps3 games. However it is loud with ps2 games. A bit strange, I don't quite get why. Overall for the vast majority of applications it is one of the most silent optical disk based consoles I have ever owned.
by mdub311 August 19, 2009 3:37 PM PDT
it all depends on ventilation. If its in a cabinet with no good air flow, then it will be loud.
by August 19, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
"Are there flash card readers? Again, no... ...If you want to access digital media files, you'll need to put them on a USB drive, burn them to a disc, or access them over the network."

You could mention that the USB port on PS3's can support external flash card readers. I plug one in whenever my friend wants to view images from his camera's MicroSD card.
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by August 19, 2009 9:43 AM PDT
Still no PS2 game compatibility, that's a deal breaker for me, no second OS, then double whammy. I'm not going to re-purchase titles just for the PS3. I contemplated jumping ship to the XBox 360 but no Blue Ray there. Netflix on one, no Netflix on the other. Hard choice but no cigar on both.
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by Lodestar1 August 19, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
That's a dealbreaker for me as well, and I'm not a particular fan of any of the systems. There are supposed to be 1900 ps2 titles sitting at various used bins at Gamestops across America. An individual who did not own a ps2 would give serious consideration to plop down 299 for the ps3 if it meant they had access to the large ps2 library.

So I guess I'm not sure why they stripped it out from the last three release versions of the ps3.
by AlnilamE August 19, 2009 12:01 PM PDT
That is the dealbreaker for me as well. I have a PS2, and quite a few unfinished games. And that's the spot where the PS3 would be sitting if I bought one. So until I can play my older games on the PS3, Sony's not getting any more of my business
by One-Eared Gundark August 19, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
Ditto. I know the PS2 can be had cheap these days, but I'd like to have a "one-box" solution for PS2, PS3, and Blu-ray movies.
by ZetaZeta_ August 19, 2009 1:48 PM PDT
Sony still wants those new PS2 console sales. Personally, killing the PS2 and adding backwards compatibility would be the right choice. They'd push the console that matters to them in a year or two: The PS3, and they'll also preserve PS2 games for a longer time, since more people can play them.
by BCF1968 August 19, 2009 9:21 PM PDT
"Still no PS2 game compatibility, that's a deal breaker for me, I'm not going to re-purchase titles just for the PS3. I contemplated jumping ship to the XBox 360"

because as we all know the 360 plays PS2 games.
by epross August 20, 2009 12:57 PM PDT
I've noticed on PSN lately that they are selling a lot of PS1 games (e.g. the first Tomb Raider, etc.) I wonder if Sony will start selling downloads of PS2 games that have been modified to run on the new PS3 hardware? It would shut the door or the used game market, open up additional titles to people who didn't own a PS2, but would alienate all those who have existing stacks of PS2 games. It'll be interesting to see what (if any) strategy they have.

On PSN they are offering a PS2 emulator that says it will allow playing of PS2 games that require hard disk content installation. I don't own any PS2 games and Sony doesn't give any more information that this, so I don't know if this actually works (or is just extremely limited to a few titles.) Sony can be not very forthcoming with documentation - a big peeve of mine.
by bugeye69 August 27, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
Actually, with the right software the PS3 can also stream Netflix movies. It doesn't work in the same manner as the XB360, but it works none the less. Google "Playon Media Server", download the free trial and try it out. It's basically media server software. It uses your computer as a intermediary for certain online content. Once installed, as long as your computer is on the same LAN as your PS3, you do a search for media servers from your PS3's XMB. Once found, you'll see the Playon logo as the media server. From there you can access Hulu, YouTube, Amazon VOD, NetFlix, etc. There are also third-party plugins for other online content, including a local files streamer which streams files from your PC....for those of us who are familiar with the PS3's lack of ability to read certain file types.
by mabumbu August 19, 2009 9:47 AM PDT
very ugly slim consloe
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by zman123able August 19, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
btw the date they posted is incorrect the ps3 slim 120 gig will come out sep. 21
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by BCF1968 August 19, 2009 9:26 PM PDT
No in the US it is coming out Sept 1st.

from the playstation website

"It?s confirmed! The PlayStation 3 is now available for $299. Yes, NOW! Today, Kaz Hirai also announced a new, slimmer form factor 120 GB PS3 (available September 1st). "
by bird1007 August 19, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
Sony afraid China Hd dvd which Toshiba abandon with China Hugh market n consumer power can quickly become a standard Warner bro already join the china version hd dvd that's y scare Sony ps3 blue ray
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by maverick_n_u August 19, 2009 10:36 AM PDT
is PS3 slim still the best blu ray player........does ps3 slim have netflix, hulu or blockbuster intergration.....?
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by BevoUofT August 19, 2009 10:57 AM PDT
How reliable is the PlayStation®/PS one? and PlayStation®2 Format Software Compatibility Status for PLAYSTATION®3 Hardware?

http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus
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by isoler87 August 19, 2009 11:04 AM PDT
I think it would be good to note that you can just plug a card reader into one of the USB ports and it acts the same as a built-in reader. No need to burn discs or put stuff on a USB drive.
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by BTOMAN August 19, 2009 11:13 AM PDT
I am planning to buy a BD player and the PS3 SLIM has become one of the possible choices. Is the PS3 SLIM capable of sending the hi res audio of BD movies as a bitstream or does it decodes the audio and send it as PCM just as the previous models?
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by moochie_gamer August 19, 2009 11:17 AM PDT
Would it be so hard for Sony to do software-based PS2 backwards compatibility? It was rumored that the slim PS3 would have that but it's not part of the 3.0 firmware update. I guess it could still be in the works, if it ever really was. Still, it's another thing I think Sony could easily do.
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by jpfalcone August 19, 2009 11:39 AM PDT
I don't disagree that PS2 backwards compatibility would be cool. That's one reason I opted for the 80GB MGS4 PS3, which did include backwards compat. That said--I haven't even used the feature. Are any of you really that attached to your PS2 games? Are you still frequently playing them? If yes--any reason you don't just keep the PS2 hooked up, or buy the Slim PS2 for $99?
by AlnilamE August 19, 2009 12:04 PM PDT
by jpfalcone wrote:
"Are any of you really that attached to your PS2 games? Are you still frequently playing them? If yes--any reason you don't just keep the PS2 hooked up, or buy the Slim PS2 for $99? "
I am, and I do. I have games I haven't even started, let alone finished on the PS2. The reason I wouldn't just keep the PS2 is because there are four shelves on my TV stand, and they are all taken. So I'd have to take out the PS2 if I wanted to have a PS3.
by Absolution2009 August 19, 2009 12:14 PM PDT
I'm still playing catch up on God of War 1 and 2 and Kingdom Hearts. Have the games but haven't had the chance to actually play them due to my work. =\
by chrkeller August 19, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
I am very attached to many ps2 games. There are many I haven't played yet, many I haven't finished yet and quite a few I still love playing. I dont' want to give up Okami, MGS3, etc. As noted by the poster above me there is space issue, one of the reasons I don't want a separate ps2. Also not having to deal with memory cards and using an official wireless controller is nice, very nice. Add in ps2 games being upscaled, yeah BC is important to me. Very important.
by BevoUofT August 19, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
I agree, which is why I posted the question about their compatibility search form. We have several series we like to play (Spyro, Jak, Sly Cooper, and Ratched & Clank) on the PS2. We just bought the PS2 Slim a couple of years ago and have not been excited about dropping so much money for the PS3.
by ZetaZeta_ August 19, 2009 1:56 PM PDT
It's also fairly nice for friends to lend preceding titles in a series to each other. For instance, my friend was playing MGS4, and I could lend him my 1, 2, and 3 discs so he can catch up on the series. One could also catch up on the Max Payne series, for instance, before MP3, or RE4, before RE5.

In short: It's nice to have the ability to play a few titles without having to buy another console. I have dozens of games for my PS2, and only about 3 or 4 PS1 games which I play on my PS2. You have no idea how useful BC is.
Also PS1 games on PS2 can have faster disc reading, etc. PS2 games on PS3 (depending on implementation) can be upscaled, read the disc faster, or w/e. Sony could make the PS3 a very desirable purchase, even for people who already own a PS2.
by lordnykkon August 19, 2009 4:42 PM PDT
@ jpfalcone, re: backwards compatibility

For me, it's about 1) space and 2) efficiency 3) the memorable titles. Once upon a time, my entertainment setup contained an NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, and PSOne. Tangle of wires in the back, AV Receiver connections filled, crammed rack, not esthetically pleasing, and no place left for upgrades. Why so many consoles? Because each had a special title that I found myself always returning to after a few years, even in the face of next-gen bells and whistles, be it the original Metroid or Super Contra, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Shining Force, Lost Vikings, GoldenEye, etc. When the PS2 was first mentioned in magazines, I fretted whether I'd have to retire one of my legacy consoles to make space for the new addition. Then came the announcement of the PS2's backwards compatibility. Suddenly it became clear that it was my PSOne that was going to retire. Now I could play my whole library of PSOne games on the PS2. And, for every Final Fantasy 10, I'd find myself returning again to FF7, Metal Gear Solid: Sons of Liberty to the original Metal Gear Solid, Twisted Metal, Tekken, Resident Evil, etc.

When I purchased my Wii, with accessibility to the Virtual Console's back-catalogue, all my legacy consoles followed the PSOne to eBay, save for one (Goldeneye where are you?). When the PS3 was first announced with backwards compatibility, it was presumed that the PS2 would be retired and my now clean, esthetically pleasing, minimalist high-end media setup wouldn't be hampered by yet another box. However, for a variety of reasons, I was slow to pick up my PS3. Then, with each year, the PS3 changed its SKU crippling features one iteration after another. Before I knew it, my backwards compatibility had disappeared, and my money remained in my pocket. My new hope lied with the PS3 Slim's potential firmware upgrade to reintroduce backwards compatibility. And yet, here we are.

I called up my buddy yesterday and mentioned I might finally cough up the change for a PS3, though the idea of having both a PS2 and PS3 side by side next to my HDTV still isn't entirely appealing. He has the Metal Gear 80 gig (lucky dawg), and I was hoping to get a recommendation on a great PS3 game to pick up, if I did pull the trigger. To my surprise, he'd wasn?t playing GTAIV, inFamous, or Prototype but had just purchased FF7 and Marvel vs. Capcom 2 on the PSN and was happily basking in nostalgia. How poetic.
by ebrossette August 19, 2009 11:43 AM PDT
CNET - Please hook the HDMI output to an HD codec capable decoding receiver and tell us if the PS3 Slim can bit stream the HD Codecs like Dolby True HD or DTS-HD. The original PS3 was limited to PCM only. We are waiting on your results. Thanks.
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by sticks1839 August 19, 2009 12:40 PM PDT
May I ask why this is necessary to you? Having the PS3 decode the audio and send PCM is identical to bitstreaming except for the additional lights on your AV receiver. And sending PCM enables the PS3 to work with older AV receivers that can accept PCM and not decode the HD codecs.

I keep hearing this question and desire from people, but can't see the need. Is there something I'm missing?
by menssie August 19, 2009 1:45 PM PDT
I also wondered about the bit stream availability for HD Codecs like Dolby True HD or DTS-HD. This is very important in order to take advantage of the audio soundtracks on the majority of BluRay releases today. The PQ on BluRay is only half of the HD experience, the other half is "Properly Decoded Audio", and PCM is NOT the same!

Per; sticks1839, "May I ask why this is necessary to you? Having the PS3 decode the audio and send PCM is identical to bitstreaming except for the additional lights on your AV receiver." Not entirely true...

There is a difference between PCM in comparison to Dolby Digital True HD and DTS HD-MASTER. Yes it is similar to bitstream, but the end result is not the same, the timbre is different and overall balance and separation in the original soundtracks is different. To me PCM just doesn't deliver the same as DTS-MA and DD-True HD. I did some A-B comparisons with a friends PS3 and my $200 Panasonic BD35K. There is an immediately noticeable difference in the audio...

I would NEVER purchase a PS3 because of this as well as the BS with their remotes and the unavailability of PS2 backward compatibility... I have a PS1, a PS2, and then if I had a PS3 that only bit streams PCM, and then have to get a PS3 slim to maybe have "proper"(DTS-MA and DD-True HD) bit stream decoding, well I guess I would need a check-up from the neck-up. Who the hell needs or wants 4 playstations?? Sony is an aggressive and greedy company. Maybe all the features will be in proper order on one of their future players, maybe it will be the PS15 or the PS21?? I still stick by my sentiments, sony, you suck!
by deathdispatch August 19, 2009 12:05 PM PDT
well, this is the same Ps3 that has been failling since launched in 2006. it is still the best game on paper but the xbox 360 has proved more. there is nothing new but the design. there is no game on Ps3. the xbox 360 is the best console out there.
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by cyclonica1980 August 19, 2009 12:22 PM PDT
@deathdispatch

Uhm PS3 is far from failing buddy. Less trolling more facts please.
by ywkhgqo August 19, 2009 12:27 PM PDT
so what has the 360 upgraded hardware wise? Besides the HD and processor problems, NOTHING
by One-Eared Gundark August 19, 2009 12:53 PM PDT
@ ywkhgqo,

What hve they upgraded on the 360?! Why, I hear they got their failure rate down below 50% now. How's that for an upgrade? ;-)
by monster_eater123 August 20, 2009 12:22 AM PDT
Ummm ... dude ... the PS3 isn't falling ... the 360 is ... look at how many 360's die every month from over heating or hardware failures? The 360 is a joke ... I mean yes the 360 has some cool exclusive games ... but that's just because it happened to be there ....I'm surprised the 360 even sells at all with all the failure rates it's had. Everybody I know that has had a 360 has had at least one or more 360 nose dive on them ... I can't say that one about the PS3. Everybody that I know that's had one hasn't had any issues.
by tipoo_ August 19, 2009 12:17 PM PDT
To me, it just looks like they went nuts with cost-cutting measures. The old one looked better.
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