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August 13, 2009 2:47 PM PDT

Should Ruth Madoff have her MacBook taken away?

by David Carnoy
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I was browsing through the latest issue of Vanity Fair, in which Mark Seal has a profile of Ruth Madoff titled "Ruth's World," and noticed that Madoff, wife of jailed Ponzi-schemer Bernie Madoff, is apparently an Apple user.

The article talks about how she had to give up many of her pricier belongings, including a fur coat (or probably several), when U.S. marshals took possession of her Park Avenue apartment on July 2.

Personally, I wasn't too concerned about the fur she wanted to keep, but sick tech blogger that I am, all I could think about was whether she was going to get to hold on to her MacBook. Now, I'm not sure what's inside that MacBook, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a top-of-the-line model (when she bought it anyway).

Now, if you're one of Bernie's victims--and an Apple fan to boot--that picture would seem doubly insulting. OK, so I don't know whether the laptop was taken away with the furs, but I have a sneaking suspicion it wasn't. And if I were the feds, I'd force her to use Windows Vista on some Netbook that barely runs it.

Ruth Madoff may be innocent of conspiring to defraud people with her husband, but it's a crime that she's still allowed to use a MacBook.

Just my two cents. How 'bout yours?

Hunkered down in New York City, Executive Editor David Carnoy covers the gamut of gadgets and writes his Fully Equipped column, which carries the tag line "The electronics you lust for." He's also the author of "Knife Music," a novel. E-mail David. Follow David on Twitter.
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by EvanSei August 13, 2009 3:06 PM PDT
no lets give her a 7 year old laptop with a celeron and vista basic and if she is really good we can give her a battery with a hole 30 minutes and a broken charger, just what she deserves
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by gggg sssss August 14, 2009 5:42 PM PDT
an HB penil would be better. No, let her scratch the years she will spend in prison on the wall in her own blood.
by blusky08 August 15, 2009 12:56 PM PDT
My God, people are so petty, jealous and vindictive. What a nightmarish and medievally legalistic society we live in---people seem to live for punishing others to the maximum when they themselves often do or would (if they could) live off any income possible. Truth is, this country was built on such ill gotten gain, and the majority of the well-to-do live off it in one form or another. Bernie Madoff broke the law, but really he became the whipping boy for a failed economy. He isn't the Devil himself as he's been portrayed, but rather just another high status thief. (And let's not forget that many of his so-called victims suspected he was involved in something fishy but turned a blind eye thinking they were raking in the dough).
by make_or_break August 15, 2009 10:13 PM PDT
blusky08: gee, and here I thought greedy old Madoff was merely THE epitome of a self-serving, greed SOB. I didn't realize that he was also a poster child for all of the rest of the WORLD'S ills as well.

This downfall doesn't stop at our borders, in case you didn't realize. It's VERY global, so I guess you should condemn all of the western world (and quite a few parts considered beyond) of this ineptitude. Madoff is an admitted crook; last time I checked, in pretty much ALL societies around this planet criminals are subject to punishment. Yet you act as if Bernie Boy deserves actual pity. It's BECAUSE he's the thieving scumbag that he is that merits his ascension to poster boy status. That's the way people are; symbolism is a part of being human.

As for Madoff's victims: define 'many'...
by heygeo August 16, 2009 12:59 AM PDT
@David Carnoy .. the tool who felt the need to pen this POS article.

"i was browsing through the latest issue of Vanity Fair..."
Ok.. first hand over your Man Card and then give me back the 1.5 minutes you wasted from my life.
by That one person August 17, 2009 1:33 PM PDT
@ heygeo
Couldn't you just skip this article?
by davefwilson August 13, 2009 3:11 PM PDT
I just love how there is what looks to be a shredder sitting in her window, a great tool for her to have.
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by yargnad August 13, 2009 3:14 PM PDT
I can't believe I just wasted 3 minutes reading this drivel.
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by rjpdx August 13, 2009 5:20 PM PDT
That took you three minutes?! Maybe you should go watch Dora the Explorer and leave the reading to the grown-ups.
by stale_pancake August 13, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
c|net, what's wrong with you people? I would have thought this kind of "article" if we can even call it that is beneath you.
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by mrcjacobs August 13, 2009 3:23 PM PDT
apparently it's not. this is just another example of the lack of journalistic integrity that has stricken most news organizations!
by jakestarnes August 17, 2009 10:51 AM PDT
Its a blog! Not CNET News! Perhaps you shouldn't be looking at "crave - The Gadget Blog"
by Jeremy Chappell August 17, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
This is pathetic, even for CNet. However, perhaps we shouldn't feed the trolls (even when they do write the articles).
by MyRightEye August 13, 2009 3:23 PM PDT
Grow up... Go start your own blog somewhere if you want to post such immature and irrelevant tabloid trash.
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by ilya713 August 13, 2009 3:24 PM PDT
any human touch in your soul?
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by gggg sssss August 14, 2009 5:43 PM PDT
any human touch woudl strip this parasite of every dollar and return it to the people who got ripped off.
by make_or_break August 15, 2009 10:16 PM PDT
Funny ilya, after your response I was thinking of asking YOU the same question.
by dylerl August 13, 2009 3:25 PM PDT
No I say we give her a old gateway laptop with windows ME installed. AHHH it just scares me thinking about Gatway and Windows ME!!
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by kewell82 August 13, 2009 3:36 PM PDT
lol
by dcarnoy August 13, 2009 3:38 PM PDT
Thanks. Glad someone's having some fun with this.
by Dalkorian August 14, 2009 12:18 PM PDT
Can't. There's this "cruel and unusual punishment" clause in our Constitution preventing this.
:D
by hakeis1 August 16, 2009 2:21 PM PDT
I say leave her alone, she wasn't the one who had the scam going she's just the one who married him. He's the one who should be hung not her. Leave her alone and let her get on with her life.
by ~Canuck~ August 13, 2009 3:25 PM PDT
This is the most pointless, topical, and pathetic attempt at journalism I have ever seen. How is this news?
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by dcarnoy August 13, 2009 3:42 PM PDT
Define news.
by SaneMind August 14, 2009 1:13 AM PDT
Whatever the definition of news may be ... the above write-up is certainly not.
by sting7k August 13, 2009 3:30 PM PDT
Why is it a crime? This is America, she can choose what she wants to use. Now if she is convicted of a crime then things may change.
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by gggg sssss August 14, 2009 5:45 PM PDT
why is she still free? She was / is living off the proceeds of crime, which is a crime in itself.
by Jeremy Chappell August 17, 2009 3:19 PM PDT
@gggg sssss

Don't be pathetic. If she really didn't know, then she too is a victim - her reputation is absolutely shot, not for something she did, but for something her husband did. If your partner murdered someone would you expect to join them on the electric chair?

Now her husband, is a different story, he really is a hateful creature worthy of contempt - but lets not get them confused.
by monkeyfun14 August 13, 2009 3:45 PM PDT
Slow news day apparently.
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by Perry_Clease August 13, 2009 3:49 PM PDT
The myth of Macs being overpriced not withstanding with the 2.6 million she is allowed to keep she could easily afford a new Mac had they confiscated the one she has.
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by ronan001 August 13, 2009 3:52 PM PDT
are you trying to suggest macs are not overpriced?
by Perry_Clease August 13, 2009 4:06 PM PDT
"are you trying to suggest macs are not overpriced?"

No I am not suggesting it, I am stating it.
by poly_pusher August 13, 2009 4:32 PM PDT
I'll bite!

I'm a 3d artist. I need power... Raw Power... I have a 4 ghz Core i7 PC. Sum of parts cost is 1200 6 months ago, even cheaper now. High performance as well as rock solid stability. How much is a top of the line, single cpu, quad core mac pro again?

The day that apple actually has a product that is faster *at the very least in proportion to the price difference* and truly more stable than windows *yes I've used many macs throughout my education and Career* I'll very excitedly buy one.

So to you macs are not overpriced for whatever reason. To me they are obnoxiously overpriced, by a factor of 3 compared to what I can build. So you are suggesting it, not stating.
by Perry_Clease August 13, 2009 8:19 PM PDT
"So to you macs are not overpriced for whatever reason. To me they are obnoxiously overpriced, by a factor of 3 compared to what I can build. So you are suggesting it, not stating.'

I am stating it, Macs are not overpriced.
by mikevsworld August 14, 2009 10:33 AM PDT
It's impossible to argue logic and fact over personal beliefs/delusion
by ronan001 August 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT
perry says it so much, now he believes it. macs are too expensive fact.
by gggg sssss August 14, 2009 5:46 PM PDT
@ Perry_Clease obviously searching for clues. Try dell.com, HP.com
by steve5200 August 16, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
If Macs were reasonably priced, I would own one. I don't. If they were reasonably priced, they would have a much larger market share than they currently enjoy. As it stands, they only command a very small percentage of the computer market. That's a fact.
by ronan001 August 13, 2009 3:50 PM PDT
wasn't her husband the one who was guilty of crimes?
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by gggg sssss August 14, 2009 5:49 PM PDT
she was / is living off the proceeds of the crime that stole other people's money.That is a crime too. Let her go out and clean floors, and even that should be confiscated.Or are you saying that in 40 or so years with Bernie she did not know what was going on? That she was that stupid?
by talking poo August 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT
Let her keep it. How else is she going to read all the hate mail that is sent to her?
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by gggg sssss August 14, 2009 5:49 PM PDT
do you have an email address? Lets sign her up for some kiddie p*rn.
by ikramerica--2008 August 13, 2009 3:54 PM PDT
The watch on her wrist likely costs more and does less. That lamp was probably way overpriced.
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by turtleboy66 August 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT
by stale_pancake August 13, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
c|net, what's wrong with you people? I would have thought this kind of "article" if we can even call it that is beneath you.
by mrcjacobs August 13, 2009 3:23 PM PDT
apparently it's not. this is just another example of the lack of journalistic integrity that has stricken most news organizations!

by ~Canuck~ August 13, 2009 3:25 PM PDT
This is the most pointless, topical, and pathetic attempt at journalism I have ever seen. How is this news?

Do you people not know what "blog" is??? This is 1 persons place to post what he/she wants. Anyone can get a blog...even you guys. So go make a blog & we can all get on it & tell you what a waste of time your stuff is...Or is it just easier to be a "blog troll" because actual blogging seems like work???
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by monkeyfun14 August 13, 2009 4:11 PM PDT
Well idk about you I don't get paid to blog. This guy does the least these bloggers could do is put out something decent.

Throwing in the Vista comment was meant for flame wars. All this guy was looking for is easy page clicks.
by gN0m3 August 14, 2009 12:11 AM PDT
usually a blog is denoted by the word blog being somewhere in the subject title or URL at the least. This, as you can see, says news, not blog. Therefore it is not the place to post opinions.
by kstafferton August 14, 2009 1:53 AM PDT
crave
THE GADGET BLOG FROM CNET"

-Just quoting what it says at the top.
by Argyll August 13, 2009 4:55 PM PDT
Is the writer of this "Article" an idiot or what?
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by dcarnoy August 13, 2009 6:36 PM PDT
Define idiot.
by SaneMind August 14, 2009 1:14 AM PDT
^^
by gggg sssss August 14, 2009 5:51 PM PDT
No, an investigative journalist. Which we shoudl have had years ago to nip this thing in the bud.
by 4score20 August 13, 2009 5:45 PM PDT
I suspect the desk Mrs. Madoff is sitting at probably cost more than anything she's typing on or wearing. Also, I think her continued public humiliation including losing most of her ill-gotten money and having to report any spending over one hundred dollars is much worse punishment than taking her laptop computer away. At this point it would be a minor pinch by comparison. If they did take it, there's always WebTV. They're still around, right? :)
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by loose_screw August 13, 2009 5:46 PM PDT
Two words: Microsoft Bob.
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by nautics80 August 13, 2009 6:03 PM PDT
My family has been destroyed by Madoff. Many members of my family are penniless now including my father who saved for so many years. We checked with the SEC many times.. they failed us! I know what people say about being selfish and greedy, but if you check with the SEC and they tell you he's great and it's a blessing to work with him.. wouldn't you??

For years the Madoff's lived a lavish lifestyle with other peoples money. I say give her what the madoff's have given us - NOTHING. Let her apply for social security early. Maybe she should have had a real job so she could have received a pension. She should not get to keep a laptop or anything.

I do find it insulting that any of them get to keep anything. I don't believe it was just Madoff himself. This was a huge operation in my opinion that many people were a part of. I have so many family members who's lives have been destroyed.

The SEC should compensate the victims. The IRS only allows you to go back 3 years on taxes you paid on investments.. my family was with madoff for over 20!!

I say Ruth shouldn't get a laptop.. she can get a pen and a piece of paper.

Am I bitter? Yes and very disappointed in the SEC who should have been there to protect us.
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by SlimGem August 13, 2009 7:40 PM PDT
"I say Ruth shouldn't get a laptop.. she can get a pen and a piece of paper."

You're way too generous. I say give her a rusty nail and let her write on Bernie's butt.
by nautics80 August 13, 2009 6:04 PM PDT
My family has been destroyed by Madoff. Many members of my family are penniless now including my father who saved for so many years. We checked with the SEC many times.. they failed us! I know what people say about being selfish and greedy, but if you check with the SEC and they tell you he's great and it's a blessing to work with him.. wouldn't you??

For years the Madoff's lived a lavish lifestyle with other peoples money. I say give her what the madoff's have given us - NOTHING. Let her apply for social security early. Maybe she should have had a real job so she could have received a pension. She should not get to keep a laptop or anything.

I do find it insulting that any of them get to keep anything. I don't believe it was just Madoff himself. This was a huge operation in my opinion that many people were a part of. I have so many family members who's lives have been destroyed.

The SEC should compensate the victims. The IRS only allows you to go back 3 years on taxes you paid on investments.. my family was with madoff for over 20!!

I say Ruth shouldn't get a laptop.. she can get a pen and a piece of paper.

Am I bitter? Yes and very disappointed in the SEC who should have been there to protect us.
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by Shaun822 August 15, 2009 8:10 AM PDT
Sad part is there was an investor in Boston that Madoff tried to sucker that told the SEC to investigat him because there was no way his revenue was legit because it was the same 11% (don't know the actual number) regardless of what the rest of the economy was doing.
by Brolix August 17, 2009 4:49 AM PDT
The SEC Can't compensate every victim of a Ponzie Scheme. It's their job to prevent these things from happening, and for the most part, the succeed; however, it's impossible for them to take responsibility for the failures that do occurr. There's always someone out there smart enough to out-think the system. But man, i'm so sorry your family was victimized by him-it's a horrific to work your whole life for something, and then have it snatched away through Betrayal.
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