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August 5, 2009 11:14 AM PDT

Where did all the eject buttons go?

by Matthew Moskovciak
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Three remote controls that lack an eject button.

Notice anything missing?

(Credit: CNET Networks)

Over the first half of 2009, we've notice a disturbing trend in the home theater: eject buttons are going out of style.

A surprising number of disc-playing home theater products we've reviewed this year have included remotes that inexplicably lack an eject button--even though manufacturers have no problem cluttering the remote with all kinds of other useless buttons that nobody uses. For us, it's a real annoyance. If we're changing discs, our standard tactic is to hit the eject button, get off the couch, and by the time we get to our player the tray is open and waiting for us. Now we have to get up, crouch over the player to hit the eject button and wait for it to spit the disc out--and with many Blu-ray players it can take quite a while before it actually ejects.

We can't think of any reason why this is a smart design move; were people really accidentally ejecting discs all the time? It can't possibly cost significantly more to include a single button. Our best guess is that the button was thoughtlessly discarded, under the logic that you have to get up to change the disc anyway. But anybody who actually uses these products would realize it's a major design blunder. Sure, you can accuse me of excessive laziness for complaining about crouching over the player, but why put up with extra annoyance when nearly all the disc players we used last year had an eject button on the remotes?

A comparison of Sony remotes from 2008 and 2009

Last year, Sony's BDP-S350 Blu-ray player had an eject button, but the newer BDP-S360 doesn't have one.

(Credit: CNET Networks)

Here's a list of disc-playing products that we've reviewed at CNET this year without an eject button: Sony BDP-S360, Sony BDV-E500W, Panasonic SC-BT200, Panasonic SC-BT300, Polk Audio SurroundBar 360 DVD Theater, Sony DAV-HDX589W. And those are just products we've done a full review for; I'm sure there are many more.

What do you think? Should every disc player come with a remote with an eject button or does it not matter since you need to get up to change discs anyway? Sound off in the comments.

Got a disc player with a remote that lacks an eject button? Write the model number in the comments and we'll add it to the list.

Update: Here's a list of reader-submitted products with remotes that lack an eject button: Panasonic SC-PT770

Covering home audio and video, Matthew Moskovciak helps CNET readers find the best sights and sounds for their home theaters. E-mail Matthew or follow him on Twitter @cnetmoskovciak.
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by matthewp131 August 5, 2009 11:26 AM PDT
I completely agree, a disc eject button is a great and necessary thing to have
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by Jeremy Chappell August 8, 2009 11:58 AM PDT
Why?! Unless you can train your dog to swap the discs ... I seriously worry about mental health of Matthew Moskovciak - DUDE, you've still got to get up and swap the disc! The buttons are pointless. Like others here, my player is behind a glass door, if I eject the disc from the sofa then the tray hits the glass, pauses and retracts!
by chrkeller August 5, 2009 11:26 AM PDT
Waiting 2-3 seconds for the tray to open is a big deal? I generally get up, hit eject on the console, wait patiently for the entire 2-3 seconds and switch out disks... guess I am just not in a hurry to save that 2-3 seconds every 3-4 hours of gaming/movie playing.
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by Slick1of2 August 5, 2009 11:41 AM PDT
Yes, but it is always fun to keep hitting the close/eject button when someone is trying to take out a disk :P
by Nataku4ca August 7, 2009 9:09 AM PDT
i dont speak for all machines, but i've seen some pretty danm slow machines that takes over 20 sec just to spit out a disc... may be i was too cheap on my selections...
by olatte August 7, 2009 7:07 PM PDT
I'm with you...Come on America! Get with it! I don't know which is lazier? The fact that cnet pros can't wait the 2 seconds or coming up with this aweful spacefilling article. I'll let this airball pass this time...next time, i'm calling an H on your a&&.
by flicknstock August 5, 2009 11:40 AM PDT
I've stopped using the eject buttons because if you hold the stop button for a few seconds my players eject the disk.
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by jjolsen August 7, 2009 12:36 PM PDT
On my VCR, as long as the little record tab is removed from the cassette, all you have to do is press 'Rec' on the remote in order to eject the video. I'm sure the same thing works for DVDs and BluRay!
by rowe13 August 10, 2009 7:30 AM PDT
@jjolsen...buy a DVD player man
by spolastre August 5, 2009 11:46 AM PDT
I'm surprised about the disc eject.
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by mickberna August 5, 2009 11:46 AM PDT
I've never used the eject button. My DVD player is behind glass, so when the disc ejects it just hits the glass door and either scratches the glass or the tray retracts.

But when I think about it, even when I had a VHS player, I've never regularly used an eject button. It always seemed like a cool function to have, but I've never actually found myself pressing it.
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by nfrankli August 5, 2009 12:07 PM PDT
I haven't used a manufacturer remote for years...
Doesn't everyone use a Harmony Universal remote these days? With those you can have as many useless buttons as you like.
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by SilverSurfer00 August 5, 2009 1:45 PM PDT
I worked for Harmony for years and always pushed for an eject button. There is no eject button on the Harmony line. You have to add it to the LCD. I never understood this as even the Harmonys have useless hard buttons that could easily be replaced by eject. I too have this mapped on my LCD. Matthew, you've hit the reasoning on the head. The manufacturers don't see a need since you have to get up anyway. If only the ones making the decisions had first tried the device just once!
by superswiss August 8, 2009 9:38 AM PDT
The HarmonyOne has an E button, that's mapped to Enter on devices where the function makes sense. For DVD players and the PS3 the software maps it to Eject. I thought that was kinda clever.
by xelanmetallium August 5, 2009 12:14 PM PDT
The lack of an eject button reminds me of a car without an electric starter. A decided inconvenience and after having access to one, living without it does seem absurd.
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by bigrob029 August 5, 2009 12:47 PM PDT
I primarily use my xbox 360 for playing dvds, before the major update there was way to remotely open the disc tray and it did take a while to spit them back out. Since the update a remote tray opener is definitely a welcome addition.
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by 1812dave August 5, 2009 12:51 PM PDT
Funny, this article appearing now. I just recently bought a Sony Blu Ray player, which uses the control at the right side of this article's picture. I couldn't believe it had no Eject, so I pored through the manual trying to find mention of one. Lo and behold--NADA! Crazy.
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by tktnuri August 5, 2009 1:08 PM PDT
I agree I have the Panasonic SC-PT770. Its a home theater in a box system with a 5 disc changer. Not only does it not have an eject button but it doesn't have a disc forward or back button to advance to the next stored disc. You can however after 3 button clicks get to a screen where you choose the disc you want to play but that seems excessive as well.

You also cannot eject a single disc and load up the other slots without stopping what you are currently watching.
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by mttsndrs August 5, 2009 2:39 PM PDT
Remote design is bad all over. I would appreciate an eject button, but even more importantly a play/pause/rewind button layout that a first-time user can operate in the dark, without accidentally hitting "chapter skip" and jumping forward 20 minutes.

I have an old Denon receiver that came with two remotes, one small one that had all the most common features, and one big one with the full feature set. The big one has been in a closet for years; the small one has all the features I actually use on a daily basis and is easier to use. I think Denon made a good decision there, they also used color coding so the feature you use the most on a receiver (volume) is highlit and easy to find even if you're not familiar with the remote.

It seems to me like the feature set of many home electronics within a category (e.g. receivers, disc players, etc) are pretty similar, so often if I'm torn between two or more models, I'll use the remote layout as the tie-breaker. Whichever unit has a smaller and easier-to-operate remote will often be the one I buy.
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by lordnykkon August 5, 2009 2:59 PM PDT
I'm with mickberna. my audio/video components sit in a rack behind a glass door. I'd definitiely like to see more remotes like flicknstock's, where the buttons are multi-purpose. Some already have are doing this, using just one button to double as play/pause or a skip button which aslo seeks when held down. Cleaner layout.

I know some people who have Sony CD players in their racks, and the remote doesn't have a power button. A power button?!?! And you thought manually ejecting was a pain...
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by santihossni August 8, 2009 10:56 PM PDT
I hate those controllers with multi function buttons! My girlfriend has one like that, and sometimes I'm trying to fast forward and I want to FF faster.. and just skip into the next chapter, or if you press pause it's the same as "stop" and the DVD by Samsung screen will show up, it's just annoying!
by SimpleBear August 5, 2009 9:17 PM PDT
I think this is one of the first steps on shifting our focus to digital streaming content...
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by giga90 August 5, 2009 9:31 PM PDT
Ah.... The Eject Button. It's been almost 10 years since I last use it...
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by l0gar August 5, 2009 9:53 PM PDT
Let's compare degrees of laziness:
1) Am I so lazy the lack of an eject button on my remote and resulting waste of several seconds represents a serious inconvenience to me? No.
2) Am I so lazy I avoid arguing inane subjects on usually insightful tech sites? Again, no.

I suspect the two are related...
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by bathswana August 6, 2009 4:57 AM PDT
It has been my experience that Blu-ray supporters will support anything done by blu-ray companies, no matter how assenine it is.

1) "Blu-ray 1.0 and 1.1 players? All people want to do is watch the movie anyways. Live with it and shut up about it."

2) "No internet connection for firmware updates? People who don't want to burn a CD with DRM updates are "lazy". Live with it and shut up about it."

3)" No eject button? Never use it anyway. But that "angle" button is used all the time! Live with it and shut up about it".

4) "PS3 requires a special all-in-one remote or translator? A minor inconvenience, so stop bringing it up."

Since ALL blu-ray players (and discs) sold today will be instantly obsolete next year when Managed Copy players come out, Sony zealots will no doubt shout "live with that, and shut up" as well.
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by MrBoomshadow August 7, 2009 5:36 AM PDT
"Live with it and shut up about it?" This is a gadget site. If people decided to live with and shut up about all manner of inconveniences, we'd all still be using those giant brick phones from the early 1980s and playing our Ataris. Living with and shutting up about inconveniences means less innovation.
by viper396 August 7, 2009 12:30 PM PDT
Why are you trying to turn this otherwise trivial article into a another discussion about Blu-ray? In your profile all 11 of your prior post bring up that subject. We get it, you don't like or want blu-ray. Either way, it is not your responsibility to convince others to agree with you. *Why don't you live with that and shut up.*
by jvbo August 7, 2009 6:04 PM PDT
Well said, viper396..
by planblove August 6, 2009 9:40 AM PDT
I have that Sony theater system remote in the pic on the right. I used to complain about it too but once I realized I had to get up and take the movie out anyway, its not that big of a deal. Or you can just get another universal remote and program it to eject it like my Harmony remote does.
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by Eludium-Q36 August 6, 2009 9:58 AM PDT
Like someone noted earlier, the Eject/Load button has yielded to the the multi-function STOP button, press once to stop, press-and-hold to eject (and load).
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by skasner August 6, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
I would miss out on much fun if I didn't have an Eject button on my Blu-ray player to drive my dog insane with the magical opening/closing disc tray.
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by josh81 August 7, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
My cat loves it too! :-D
by santihossni August 8, 2009 10:59 PM PDT
Just pray he doesn't bite the whole tray out and drags your BD player into the ground :P heheh
by phaser125 August 7, 2009 5:40 AM PDT
I don't care about the eject button on my remote, not one bit. What I'm wondering is why it seems like a good idea that for my receiver to have so few buttons and controls on the unit itself? Often times I find I am up and want to just switch it on and select the inputs from the receiver itself, and theres just the big KNOB for selecting between about 12 inputs... Who thinks that's a good idea? Give me buttons!

Just about all "multi-purpose" buttons need to be thrown out. I'll take more buttons that I can memorize the look, feel, and position of, both on the remote and the units themselves, any day.
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