July 28, 2009 11:08 AM PDT

Report: Acer Android Netbook pushed back

by Erica Ogg
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Update (July 30, 2009, 8:50 a.m. PDT): A subsequent report says that Acer's plans for an Android Netbook are allegedly still on track.

Is Acer backing off the idea of an Android-based Netbook?

A new report out of Taiwan, where the PC maker is based, says the production of the previously announced dual-boot Netbook with Windows XP and Android is being delayed.

Acer Android Netbook (Credit: Acer)

The report in Digitimes, says that while Acer had previously planned an earlier launch, "further evaluation has found demand for an Android Netbook is not strong enough, and it has therefore decided to postpone the launch of the model."

Digitimes says it was previously announced for an August release, but that it is being pushed back to November. When asked for confirmation, an Acer spokesperson said only that "Acer has not yet announced timing of a dual-boot Netbook."

But if the Digitimes report is accurate, it means something has shifted at Acer HQ. At Computex in early June, company executives were very excited about the possibilities of Android on Netbooks, even saying that the majority of Acer Netbooks will come with Android as an alternative operating system to Microsoft's Windows.

"Netbooks are designed to be compact in size and easy to connect to the Internet wherever you go," Jim Wong, Acer's president of IT products, said at the time. "The Android operating system offers incredibly fast wireless connection to the Internet; for this reason, Acer has decided to develop Android Netbooks for added convenience to our customers."

The idea of putting Google's Android mobile operating system on Netbooks came into favor earlier this year, with several Netbook manufacturers piping up to say they would offer or at least look into it as an option. But there are several potential problems with putting a relatively unknown operating system on what are intended to be very accessible computers for even the least technically savvy, as my colleague Dan Ackerman noted.

But more importantly, Android wasn't created for Netbooks. And earlier this month Google announced it's actually working on an OS specifically designed for them, Chrome OS. Google also said it is already working with PC makers like Asus, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Toshiba, and Acer, so it would make sense that Acer could be focusing its attention away from Android.

Erica Ogg is a CNET News reporter who covers Apple, HP, Dell, and other PC makers, as well as the consumer electronics industry. She's also one of the hosts of CNET News' Daily Podcast. In her non-work life, she's a history geek, a loyal Dodgers fan, and a mac-and-cheese connoisseur. E-mail Erica.
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by slickuser July 28, 2009 12:06 PM PDT
Android who? I think almost everyone prefers Windoze...
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by ca5ter July 28, 2009 3:54 PM PDT
Sounds like an open source project to me
by Mikeybabes July 29, 2009 11:21 PM PDT
I think you are missing the bigger picture, namely interoperability. We have an OS that is now working itself into more and more phones and mobile devices including the new Creative PMP player. It works well, it's free and it can only get better with a behemoth of a company behind it.
If you look at what Asus is saying, it sounds to me as if somebody has given them the frighteners. The plan was dual-boot so even if people didn't like it they could always go and use Windows. I have Windows XP on my netbook, but only because it came bundled at a marginal cost. I am seriously considering switching as I am finding it awfully slow.
by jscott418 July 28, 2009 12:12 PM PDT
Let's face it, Linux has never set the world on fire and it never will. Sure their will always be Geeks and computer hobbyist who enjoy the open source operating system. But the average consumers knows Windows and Mac's and that going to be it. Even in Microsoft's worst face (Vista) Linux gained no ground on Windows or OS X. Computer makers are deciding you just cannot force people to buy into something just because it makes the computer cheaper. They have to like using it too.
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by hippie_dream July 28, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
I agree that Linux hasn't set the world on fire but I am fairly bewildered as to why not. Why hasn't Linux worked yet? As an OS itself it works quite well and the prospect of a free system I've always thought would be attractive. With the amount of time spent in browsers it shouldn't make too much difference which OS most people use thus why don't people go towards the free OS as opposed to a proprietary one? Interesting question I think.
by t8 July 28, 2009 4:36 PM PDT
Linux runs most of the Web, it is dominant in data centers, its a big player in smart phones, it is the choice OS for robots, and it is in set top boxes for TVs. It is even on Mars in the Rovers. Everytime you do a search you are using Linux (ie, Google).

Of course Linux is a failure.

Or perhaps such a statement is ignorance?
by monkeyfun14 July 28, 2009 9:03 PM PDT
All of this is commercial t8..
by zyxxy July 28, 2009 9:04 PM PDT
Linux is in the Mars Rovers? Where did you ever get that idea? The Rovers run WRS VxWorks 5.3.1
That is a pretty well documented fact. Linux runs many web servers, but it doesn't run most of the 'Web'. All those Cisco routers out there are not running Linux. The SONET rings carrying all that fiber, some are running Linux, but most are not. There is a lot of stuff out there running Linux, but don't oversell it with lies, because that just leads all the OS/X, Windows, and OS2 (where is Commander Spock?) to jump all over you.

(Solaris, HPUX, SysV.4, Linux, NetBSD, QNX, VxWorks, pSOS, ThreadX, uC/OS, RTEMS, eCOS)
by Vegaman_Dan July 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT
Wait for it.... wait for it.....
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by artistjoh July 28, 2009 12:41 PM PDT
Android? Acer may be looking at the weakness of Android in the smartphone market. I keep hearing about it glowingly from uber-geeks but I have never ever seen a single example of an Android based phone in the wild for while the geeks talk raptuously about these things the public has only one mobile OS in their eyes.

It is interesting that 3 years ago the only smartphones I ever saw were Blackberries and SE, and Nokias. Then came thew HTC's and Samsungs and LG's, then iPhones started becoming common and Nokias started to disappear. This year it seems everyone has an iPhone, there seem to be less HTC's and Blackberries and I haven't seen a Nokia or SE in months. And in all the time I have yet to see someone with an Android.

It is a bit like Linux. For all the excitement of the geek community, the public is so far just not interested all that much. Acer has simply noticed that their announcement produced very little buzz among the people who count - ordinary buyers, and they do not want to repeat their original mistake which was to offer netbooks with an OS which non-geeks just did not like (Linux). They remember how netbooks took off after they started installing XP on them. Google announcing the Google OS hasn't helped for it just confuses the issue for buyers.
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by Mr. Dee July 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
I think Chrome OS threw a monkey wrench into Acer's original plans. Then again, as jscott418 noted, Linux has not set the world on fire since its inception nearly 18 years ago. I don't think Google OS running on top of Linux will. The fact that Chrome web browser market share itself is pathetic, is enough reason to prove that Google is just getting ahead of themselves, hoping to secure their one trick pony 'Search'. With Windows 7 already having a successful pre-order launch this summer, its a good sign that it will be on half of the worlds machines by 2011. Also, who in their right mind is gonna trust a 1.0 OS with their personal data living in the cloud, especially from a Company with horrible customer service? Certainly not me.
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by jarturof July 28, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
Android, who cares, people buying iPhones, G1 and many other smartphones don't care for the OS, just the looks, downloading "funny" apps has been present since 2002 and the iphone just added a bigger screen with multitouch, the things don't change that fast, most of the apps for the iPhone are useless funny apps like "iFart". Just look at the top ten of apps downloaded from the itunes app store, just garbage.

Many people (not geeks) see netbooks as cheap laptops, so they want the OS they know and use, not the OS of a phone. Most of the people don't even call them netbooks, just the most savvy.

Plus, I prefer a windows netbook, with millions of apps avaible, and good ones, not just funny phone apps.

By the way, maybe in the USA the iphone is the ruler, I don't know the stats, but outside Nokia is still king by far, I see more Nokias, Samsungs and SE than iPhones in Europe and Latin America.
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by zyxxy July 28, 2009 9:34 PM PDT
For 2008 world wide sales figures, you can check here. Apple had about 8%, RIM about 17%, Nokia 44%.

http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/03/12/iphone-sales-grew-245-in-2008-gartner/

The iPhone is a neat product, I'll grant you that, but it is not the only phone being sold. Yeesh.
by jtjt145 July 28, 2009 3:33 PM PDT
Although this comment is not really about Android, it still fits the general theme of Linux desktops not being up to par.
In March 2009 I purchased 400 computers for my company. I tried various OEM vendors to supply tenders for a mid-range business pc. One of the conditions was that they had to be loaded with RedHat/Fedora desktops. Although not really the point of this comment, it was decided that OpenOffice an open-source mail client plus a Firefox browser would serve our business purpose perfectly. On top of that came the added bonus of saving about $275,000 for unnecessary MicroSoft licenses.

The point of this story is: I could not get any OEM manufacturer to supply any quotes, that did not include MS Windows licenses in some shape or form. In my opinion, they were plain afraid of doing anything that could hurt MicroSoft. Makes you think!

We ended up contracting a 2nd-tier supplier, who purchases his parts independently and and whose support setup appeared up to scratch.
Somehow I doubt that our 400 computers, which by the way, are happily ticking away on their Redhat desktops, will ever appear on any official statistic claiming MS holds 98% or more of the desktop. As to the OEM suppliers: I know of others in similar situations who have given up on them a long time ago.
They don't seem to want our money, they prefer the free MicroSoft Ads-aid. Go figure!

Arthur
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by Vegaman_Dan July 28, 2009 8:47 PM PDT
Considering that most major OEM's have to support their product, and that means providing drivers as well for the hardware, you coming along and asking them to provide a quote for 400 machines running an unsupported OS without driver support seems a bit... well, presumptious on your part.

Consider these companies are making *millions* of systems and your lot of 400 would require a much larger investment of time and resources on their part to deal with your needs that would cost them far more than the sale of those same systems.

Companies are in thsi to make money, and your proposal would be a money loser for them. I don't blame the companies for not giviing you a quote either.
by timintaiwan July 28, 2009 7:29 PM PDT
How did they identify "lack of demand"? Perhaps a competing OS partner who they deal with almost exclusively provided them the data.
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by carltonleesg July 28, 2009 9:21 PM PDT
I think that Acer used Linux to negotiate Microsoft down to a price point at which Acer and Microsoft are happy and at which Acer is allowed to push only Windows. Shame on you Acer! Way to go Acer!

Shame on you for being devious. Way to go for being clever. I also hope they negotiated Microsoft into a good advertising kick back. I kind of like the idea that the Windows community may be paying for my Linux habit.

I still resent buying a computer with Windows on it but lets be realistic, it used to be just an expensive coaster for me but now I see it as a way for Acer and other builders to reduce costs.
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by DMBoricua July 29, 2009 9:25 AM PDT
BWUAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!! Acer is dominating the market in cheap netbooks and standard cheap notebooks....why? Cuz they're cheap. In price, and construction. Not to mention the crapware Acer pre-installs on their Windows machines. I would never buy an Acer computer. A friend of mine bought a $1,000 Acer laptop with Vista basic and its the worst computer I've ever seen. Only ignorant people would buy such trash. I'm planning on getting a netbook soon, and that will definitely be an HP Mini Netbook. HP is the leader in computer sales in the world, and have great support and their computers are all solidly built.
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by mr_lee_cooper July 29, 2009 3:12 PM PDT
One word: ChromeOS

The ChromeOS killed Android for Netbooks... which further pushes out when we'll first see a Google-powered Network. Had Google stuck with Android for Operating Systems and Chrome for Browsers, Acer would not be bailing out on their Google-powered Netbook.
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by moneyrules November 2, 2009 3:00 PM PST
These things should fly with windows xp
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