HP reincarnates calculators on iPhone, Windows
HP now sells an HP 12C calculator app for the iPhone.
(Credit: Screenshot by Stephen Shankland/CNET)It looks like a fourth generation of my family is going to be introduced to the ways of reverse Polish notation calculators.
That's because my three-year-old son, an iPhone fan in his own preschool way, is about to be exposed to Hewlett-Packard's new iPhone application that fully emulates the company's 12c financial calculator. The $14.99 application is accompanied by a $29.99 emulator of the 15c scientific calculator, which is better at handling trigonometry and integration than mortgage payments and net present value.
All that's missing is the pocket protector-like iPhone case, my colleague Ina Fried cracked as she mocked my nerdish tendencies.
In vertical orientation, the calculator app shows a basic set of functions.
(Credit: Screenshot by Stephen Shankland/CNET)The software versions of HP calculators, announced Thursday, are clever applications for HP to sell for a number of reasons.
First, HP attracted a lot of engineers, scientists, real estate agents, and Wall Street brokers with its calculators in years gone by, and the tool is genuinely useful still to those folks. Of course, they're a lot more likely to have their mobile phones with them than their calculators, no matter how pocketable they are, if indeed they still have the calculator at all.
Second, software comes with famously plump profit margins compared with hardware, even when you have to share a cut with Apple. The 12c new costs $80 in its physical incarnation, but HP must pay the cost of making each one. With software--once it's developed--HP gets to sell it over and over for much less extra cost.
I find the app prices high, and it's annoying the 15c costs twice the price of the 12c, but I guess HP is considering that a used 15c costs between $66 and $289 right now on eBay; the models aren't for sale new anymore.
Third, there's relevance. With all the alternatives to pocket calculators, HP's line is probably as endangered a species today as the mechanical slide rules became decades ago when HP's first pocket-sized electronic calculator, the HP-35, arrived in 1972.
When it's time for me to crunch some numbers, my computers and phone already have serviceable calculator applications; spreadsheet software will probably let me do something more useful with the numbers if they actually are important to me; and Google, Yahoo, and Bing will all do some math. Heck, Wolfram Alpha knows how to understand the command "integral sec3x dx."
Alternatives there may be, but I, as you may have detected, like the calculator application for sentimental reasons. I still haul my HP 11c out of the desk drawer for this and that.
My original HP-35 calculator, dating from 1972.
(Credit: Stephen Shankland/CNET)I imprinted on HP calculators at a tender age. My mother's father was an early adopter of the HP-35, despite its high initial price tag, and I inherited the still-working machine a few years ago. My earlier contact came through using my father's, though, including my endless mashing down of the sum key to see how high a number I could make the display count to.
Then I got my own in 11th grade, the HP 11c, a lighter-weight scientific calculator than the 15C still for sale today. Maybe it's just what you grow up with, but I find the HP calculators' reverse Polish notation method (PDF) of performing calculations easier and faster.
A quick primer on reverse Polish notation, which stemmed from the work of Polish logician Jan Lukasiewicz: there's no equals key. If you want to add 2 and 4, you type 2 "enter" 4 "plus." I fear the idea is doomed, so I won't belabor the point, but it really shines when handling lots of numbers.
It should be noted that HP also announced versions of its HP 35s scientific calculator, 12c Platinum financial calculator, and 20b business-consultant calculator for Windows computers, too. They of course work with HP's touch-screen PCs, too, if you want to get closer to the original calculator experience.
And being full-fledged emulators of the original calculator hardware, the software products perform all the originals' functions, such the 15c's ability to run primitive programs. And tapping the HP logo on the calculator application shows the condensed reference guide that appears on the back of the real-world calculators.
The Windows versions are nice, but I like the iPhone version better. It's just about the right size, fitting neatly in your hand for that old-school calculator feel and making a satisfying clicking noise when you push the buttons. It goes where my phone goes.
And even if he never learns reverse Polish notation, my son will get to see how high he can make it count.
Tapping the HP logo on the calculator shows the condensed reference guide that appears on the back of the real-world calculators.
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I like the idea, however I have to agree. I don't like the prices. If the screen shots are accurate. Very nice. Seems like the touch version would still be cramped for keys though.
Bet you never had to use a slide-rule, either... ;)
but nothing as robust as a TI
maybe in the future
Hmm.. that gives me an idea for an iPhone app.. I think I'll write a Dietzgen slide rule emulator.
Cody
sometimes it does amaze me how much faster i can go in certain situations, but the calculator will make u use your brain to figure out what sequence to press the numbers to do the expression u want. it's just easier to do it in excel or a regular calculator tho.
Computationally, a series of calculations can be efficiently represented on a stack -- and RPN (postfix) is the most straightforward way to manipulate the stack -- which is why the original HP calculators were programmed in that way.
Basically RPN allows you to "get rid" of parenthesis while maintaining order precedence. Also, having a stack, users don't have to constantly fiddle with adding/recalling/clearing from a single memory space like on "regular" calculators (which is prone to user error).
Consider even the simple expression: (6 + 7) / (8 + 9). With a regular calculator, you'd have to clear the memory (MC), compute 8 + 9 =, store it in memory (M+), compute 6 + 7 =, hit the divide key, recall the stored value (MR), then hit =. That's if they remember to calculate (8 + 9) first, so they could recall it last.
Or do what most people do, which is to write down a partial calculation (6 x 7) on paper, do the same with (8 x 9), then retype both results back in to calculate the division for the final answer. As you can see the parenthesis makes regular calculators hard to use.
On the HP you just do 6 e 7 + e 8 e 9 + / and you're done (with 'e' being the Enter key).
(I'm curious if there were ever any Polish notation calculators, i.e., with a prefix method of input).
Prices are high, but still less than buying a new one (or ebay as article says).
There are multiple HP 12C type calculators on the app store already. HP is late to the game. Don't think I'll be buying HP's version...
TIs: I wore out three or four of them before the hp. They lasted less than a year. The hp is still going strong.
I had an emulator on my old Treo, but this new one really blows it away.
I just bought more N-cells for my HP41 CX. That calculator just keeps on working and working. It's still by far my favorite calculator ever, graphing or otherwise. My original HP41C (with a quad memory module) broke after I dropped it for the millionth time. I used the heck out of it in my EE work.
No HP, NO!
Drop the price and I'm in.
Don't get me wrong, HP makes good hardware, but their prices are a little out of line. This article just proves it. At the prices they're asking for these software calculators you can actually buy a similar hardware calculator.
Plus, you can get software scientific and accounting calculators for PC and Windows Mobile for free.
What a rip-off.
- by k9jdk June 26, 2009 11:54 AM PDT
- There are some that say that HP = High Priced
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