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There's a lot you don't know about New Super Mario Bros. Wii

by Jeff Bakalar
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Scott Stein
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(Credit: Jeff Bakalar/CNET)

Last night in New York City, Nintendo treated two of our CNET editors to some lengthy hands-on demos of major upcoming titles for the Wii and DS. We'll have impressions of our time with Wii Sports Resort and other games later on, but first we wanted to talk about New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Here's our first take of the game:

Jeff Bakalar:
After just 10 minutes with New Super Mario Bros. Wii, my opinion of the game has been completely altered. It's clear that the E3 press conference demo failed to capture the true competitiveness that the new 2D Mario game is capable of igniting. During our four-player demo, Team Nintendo literally beat-up on CNET editor Scott Stein and me, throwing us into lava or right into the path of an oncoming enemy. The level design is occasionally outright brutal, and there's inevitably going to be some frustrating multiplayer moments in game. All that aside, the game looks gorgeous and it's refreshing to have 2D Mario back, especially this time in wide screen.

The game has some characteristics that made us think of Super Smash Bros. At the end of each level, you're ranked on points--die enough times and your character does not even get to cross the flagpole finish line. The player with the most points, coins, and stars collected wins the level. You're then presented with a results screen, reminiscent of Mario Kart.

Presentation-wise, you'll definitely notice some similarities to the DS game of the same name. Some of the levels we played even grabbed the same music from the hand-held title.

There's no support for Wii MotionPlus in New Super Mario Bros. Wii. The only motion control apparent in the game is for the "P" power-up (propeller suit) that enables you to fly. You can also hold the "1" button and shake to pick up a teammate. We also saw a Nintendo rep using the Wii remote to control the direction of headlights on a boat.

We alluded to the difficulties with playing a game horizontally with MotionPlus attached, and we wish our time spent with New Super Mario Bros. Wii was without the accessory. It confirmed our suspicion about having that extra inch bulging out from the right side. Luckily, you won't need to have it attached to play the new Mario game.

(Credit: Jeff Bakalar/CNET)

Scott Stein:
I think that as Jeff and I sat down to some four-player New Super Mario Bros. Wii at Nintendo's W suite (after some pretty serious Wii Sports Resort competition) we were lulled into thinking we'd be in for some day-glow, relaxing, comfort gaming. Instead, an ass-whupping courtesy of Nintendo's gleeful staff was administered while I struggled to catch my breath.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii may look like the Nintendo DS smash hit, but the multiplayer gameplay is far from friendly and cooperative. As we ran through each level, frantically grabbing coins, I realized: Mario, Luigi and the other Toad are trying to sabotage me. And indeed they were.

I was the last into a bonus room full of coins, and no one saved any for me. Back above ground, no one waited. This game made Left 4 Dead look like a sunny, altruistic trip to Disneyland. Dying by being thrown in a frozen lake while on an underground boat, I came back trapped in a floating bubble like General Zod in the Phantom Zone. As I flew by, no one rescued me by popping my bubble. They rushed onwards to the flag, ending the stage and leaving me for dead. It was almost like Miyamoto himself was laughing sinisterly from above, mocking those who dared say Nintendo wasn't hardcore.

As the game continued, I was beaten, pounded, thrown in holes, left behind, knocked away from coins, and generally humiliated. And yes, I was Yellow Toad, to boot. While I'd like to check out the 2D levels from a more single-player platformer objective, the multiplayer was clearly the spiritual sequel to Super Smash Bros. And that's a pretty good thing, indeed...even though it sucker-punched the hell out of me.

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by cidman2001 June 24, 2009 4:31 PM PDT
Ok...I'm really mad now!! You guys get paid for this? Mad could be a little strong...jealous is probably a better word.....carry on!
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by lj2727 June 24, 2009 11:35 PM PDT
The Wii gets (drum roll) ANOTHER Mario game!!! (fanfare fades and sputters)
Orchestras thoughts: we wasted a good drum roll for that announcement?? Ray Charles would've seen that news coming.
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by make_or_break June 25, 2009 8:25 AM PDT
Ray Charles...LOL. Got a good chuckle out of that.

Although fact is you don't even need a thinking BRAIN to figure this out. It's like breathing and air; this symbiosis is automatic with any Nintendo platform.
by thelastknight October 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT
yeah, your point is.....???

most of there games are 10 years or older....and there characters are definitely.....
seriously they need to come up with new stuff....and besides why even have the motion sensor if your not gonna use it......
by kronic24601 June 25, 2009 9:03 AM PDT
ahh ... come on guys, it'll be fun. My Favorite games in collage were 1) Mario Kart 64, 2) Halo, 3) Super Smash Bro's.

there's just something about the single screen competitive-ness that is mega awesome. Can't wait to beat my wife and kid down ... umm ... in the game ... (that didn't sound right).
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by vendinman September 24, 2009 7:28 AM PDT
Please do your "collage" a favor and keep the name of your alma mater to yourself!!
by Crosby4Life June 25, 2009 9:51 AM PDT
I'm very underwhelmed. I know the Wii's gravy train stems from party-type games, but it's almost like they're putting practically no effort into the single player experience. I don't currently own a Wii simply because there isn't enough from a single player standpoint to entice me. Sure, there's a couple, but not enough to tide me over for more than a few weeks. Every time I consider buying one, I list the games I'd be interested in buying and realize just how short that list is.
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by AdamB5000 June 25, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
Looks interesting. I'll wait until it hits $30 or less.

Still waiting on that price point for other Mario games...
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by jonathan_a June 25, 2009 12:31 PM PDT
While all Wii fans are demanding a sequel to Mario Galaxy or a Mario game that's similar to Mario 64, Sunshine and Galaxy... we get this garbage.

No thanks Nintendo! I still don't regret selling my Wii. I dunno what's up with Nintendo these days. They made so much money, outsold the 360 and PS3, yet they keep releasing games that no Nintendo or Wii fan wants! Who wants a Mario game like this? NO ONE!!!
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by Dizzle01 June 25, 2009 12:55 PM PDT
I want it
by hrd212tele June 25, 2009 7:11 PM PDT
Mario Galaxy 2 is coming out. I'm a Nintendo fan and want this game. You're not a Nintendo fan.
by frank bruce September 24, 2009 10:26 AM PDT
I want a game that is competitive yet fun to play.
Why not?
by W1gglesnarf June 25, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
"This game made Left 4 Dead look like a sunny, altruistic trip to Disneyland. Dying by being thrown in a frozen lake while on an underground boat, I came back trapped in a floating bubble like General Zod in the Phantom Zone. As I flew by, no one rescued me by popping my bubble. They rushed onwards to the flag, ending the stage and leaving me for dead. It was almost like Miyamoto himself was laughing sinisterly from above, mocking those who dared say Nintendo wasn't hardcore"

You should lay off the drugs.
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by lennythespider June 25, 2009 3:33 PM PDT
I want it too.
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by Shanghai Kid June 25, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
Jonathan, get a clue.

I am pretty sure many Nintendo fans want this game.

Also, you should search Google for Super Mario Galaxy 2.
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by JacobVorpahl June 26, 2009 6:39 AM PDT
I'm definitely gonna pick this up. I downloaded Mario 3 off the Virtual Console during spring break and my wife played that for HOURS with a friend we were visiting, and then again many more hours when we visited her sister. A game like this is something we can both get into and enjoy.

Slam the Wii all you want, but my wife has never played an Xbox 360 game with me.
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by Michael Sosa September 24, 2009 7:48 AM PDT
My sons and I will have a lot of fun playing this.
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by superNES64 October 8, 2009 7:42 PM PDT
OMG look their is an animal crossing apple on the bush and I hope this game will come soon!
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by nintendofan10039 October 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
Hi. How can i get paid to cover some of these awesome games? Anyways, about New Super Mario Bros. Wii, it sounds fun, but such a long wait(2010 or even holiday 2009 cant come fast enough).
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