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June 12, 2009 2:10 PM PDT

Old, real book vs. Kindle alternative: Which wins?

by Scott Stein
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"Hylozoic," the physical book: saying good-bye.

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It's been widely debated since Amazon's Kindle began redefining the e-book space: when will e-books become more compelling than the physical books they were meant to replace?

For me, it happened. Today, at 2 p.m. Eastern, I went to Borders and returned a book I bought just a week ago. The reason was this: I found the book had popped up on the Amazon Kindle store for less. So I pulled the trigger.

The funny thing is I don't even have a Kindle. I have an iPhone 3G running the Kindle app. Yet, for me, in a crowded New York ecosystem where I barely have time or room to pull a book out of my backpack while crammed onto a subway, quick-fix iPhone reading does the trick better than anything else.

The book in question was "Hylozoic" by Rudy Rucker, an excellent and weird science fiction writer whose works I've become addicted to. I had tracked the release of his latest, a sequel to his equally odd "Postsingular," for months. I should have ordered on Amazon in the first place, where it was far cheaper than Borders' full retail, but I wanted instant satisfaction and got trigger-happy. Hylozoic wasn't available on the Kindle store when the book first hit the streets.

I submitted a "this should be a Kindle book" request to Amazon and went back to my life, when yesterday I discovered that "Hylozoic" had in fact been added...for $14.95.

Although I gave myself credit for helping this book become digital, it didn't conform to the $9.99 standard Kindle books normally are. Still, it was 10 dollars cheaper than the hardcover.

The iPhone Kindle version of "Hylozoic" (screenshot).

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I dug up the crumpled receipt and headed uptown to 59th and Lexington. Borders took the book back, no question (I had a story ready), and I instantly purchased it on the iPhone on my way to the subway.

To my surprise, the typesetting seemed different on this book than other Kindle releases. I didn't realize fonts could be selected by the publisher. The layout was nicely achieved, unlike my download of Stephen King's "UR," which came out looking like a format-stripped .rtf file on my Kindle app.

Since switching, I wondered how many other books would fall to bits in my phone, limited by DRM to only my hands but with the benefit of slightly lower costs and the convenience of pocket-size access. Eyesight be damned, I've fallen in deep. Since announcing this to friends, some have condemned me for abandoning "pulpy books." I'm a writer, and a lover of fiction, but I say bring it on. As a urban parent and a commuter, if it weren't for phone reading, I wouldn't be reading at all.

Now, will adopting Kindle books before an actual Kindle eventually push me over the edge to a full-on Kindle purchase? I worry about that...Amazon, your plan's brilliance is abundantly clear.

Do you use an e-book reader? If so, which one? Let us know.

Scott Stein, a New York Jets fan and CNET senior associate editor, has written about tech, entertainment, video games, and viral culture for outlets including Laptop, Wired, Maxim, Esquire Online, Asylum, and Men's Journal. He also appears on the Digital City podcast. In his spare time, you might see him performing improv in New York City (when he's not being a dad).
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by TechnoMan475392 June 12, 2009 2:38 PM PDT
I want to love e-book readers, but honestly I don't do enough reading. Most of my reading comes from magazines, and most of which I don't throw away and love going back a year later to read old issues, which really can't be done as of this time. I probably have close to 200 old magazines laying around in my room alone, most of which are over a year old. I wish I had the money'time for a kindle 2 (not the DX), though.
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by kingoftheapes June 12, 2009 2:52 PM PDT
Kindle is infinitely more expensive than the public library.

It's also a lot more expensive than getting the book used on Amazon.com or ebay.
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by DanielSZiegler June 12, 2009 2:53 PM PDT
Good article, Scott. Interestingly, my experience will be in reverse order. I received a Kindle 1 for Christmas and LOVE it! Now I have my first iPhone on order and am anxious to see what e-book reading will be like on that. I see a lot of debate of e-books vs. pulpy books. I'm not going to choose - I love them both!
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by June 12, 2009 3:27 PM PDT
I read tons of books and I am appreciating the Kindle much more than paper books.

There are thousands of free ebooks available. The DX offers the advantage of excellent pdf rendering but it is bigger and heavier. I got the first Kindle when it first came out, but I really started to like the reading experience with Kindle2. I much prefer the ebooks. They don't take up as much room. The Kindle fonts are easier on my eyes. I like the dictionary function where highlight a word gives a definition. I like being able to pick up my phone and read where I left off on the Kindle.

I also load pdf documents that I need for business on the Kindle.
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by CliffK2 June 12, 2009 3:42 PM PDT
I concur that it would take buying a lot of books to offset the Kindle's absurdly high price. I have a Kindle because of the convenience of being able to carry 50 books, free and bought, everywhere I go. There is nothing worse than having only one book on a plane, and finding out you don't like. With the Kindle, I just go to one of the remaining 49. Also, once I am done with one book, there are others waiting for me to them on the Kindle - no need to carry numerous books.

So I didn't justify my purchase based on price, but instead on convenience. And I do expect the Kindle's price to come down as other competitive products come out.
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by clietreo June 12, 2009 9:21 PM PDT
When the first Kindle came out, I was very reluctant to get it. Later, while recuperating from an injury and bedridden, I got the Kindle2 and am thrilled with it. Not only am I reading more, I'm am more anxious to start another book. It seems to me that those who have a Kindle love it, and those that don't, don't see the attraction. Paper books are fine, but the convenience of an ebook reader, especially the Kindle with whispernet, wins hands down.
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by June 12, 2009 9:35 PM PDT
Scott, nice article, and I agree with your sentiment about carrying a book everywhere, retrieving it on the subway, etc. I read public domain novels in Plucker on my Centro, as the backlight doesn't keep my girlfriend awake when I read in bed.

However, I'm surprised that you're fond of what Kindle did to Hylozoic. The word-width white space between words because of the lack of variable kerning, coupled with full justification? Geeze. That looks like crap.
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by ScottStein8 June 14, 2009 7:55 PM PDT
Hey, thanks for the response- I appreciate what you're saying about the layout, but seriously, when you see what they did to UR, it makes Hylozoic look positively fantastic!
I agree, the reading at night factor is also key. In fact, it's what I like in my iPhone Kindle over the actual one.
by kalel33 June 13, 2009 12:29 AM PDT
Kindle and pulp books cannot be compared. You buy the Kindle for convenience. I read quite a few books and I buy a lot of them off of Amazon, Ebay, and a used book store near me. I can even take my used books to the used book store for credit towards future purchases. Even if I buy a new book, I still get some of it back by taking it to the used book store. You can't do that with a Kindle.

I would really like a Kindle, but I have other things I want to convenience myself with before I shell out the amount for the Kindle 2.
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by Hymnosi June 13, 2009 6:00 AM PDT
@kingofheapes
So public libraries will have to provide newer services, including e-book rentals, which is entirely possible.
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by Renegade Knight June 15, 2009 7:08 AM PDT
You can rent audio books. The selection is horrific and the DRM gets in the way of the service working nicly. They have a long ways to go to pull off eLibraries.
by MsBrandon June 13, 2009 6:59 AM PDT
I am very happy with my OLD Zire 72 Palm. I bought it used and use the free eReader app.

To me, the price of Kindle seems excessive. I suppose if I had lots of disposable money I'd consider it. But it made more sense to go lower tech and spend my $$ on food.
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by vcmjr June 13, 2009 8:29 AM PDT
I am entirely sold on ebooks, and currently use a variety of readers. I had a Kindle 1 and now have a Kindle 2. In addition, I have Stanza, eReader, and Kindle on my iPhone. The various readers have individual advantages and disadvantages depending on conditions--reading in bright light, shade, in the dark, etc. I very much appreciate the fact that my iPhone is always with me, and I can read on it at any time or place. As a result, I am now using it more than the Kindle. I have also found ebooks using Stanza and eReader that are not available on Amazon. The most valuable aspect of all these readers is the ability to change the size of the type. I routinely read using the larger sizes. Basically, I find it is the text that matters, that is, the content, not the device or program used to read the text.
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by ngener June 13, 2009 10:52 AM PDT
I have a Kindle, which I carry with me everywhere. I also have an iphone and sometimes read my books on that, although I prefer the Kindle for ease on my eyes.

But I still buy several books per month. I'd rather read them when I'm at home
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by finkh June 13, 2009 3:21 PM PDT
I was a deep skeptic of e-readers, and reading off a screen in general, even though I've plowed through pdfs on a 100dpi monitor. Then I heard about Eucalyptus, an e-reader app for the iphone. The difference here is the app is ten dollars and all the books are free, from the Gutenberg project. I read Triplanetary, by E. E. Smith, and am now in the middle of Tales of the Jazz Age, by F. Scott Fitzgerald. The iphone form factor is ideal: the screen is the width of a classic newspaper column, the animation and sound just right, and the choice of books--all the books you never got around to reading. And, you get the book stored on the phone, so I can read on the subway.
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by avagee June 13, 2009 3:59 PM PDT
For a couple of years now I've been using the www.booksinmyphone.com reader for regular cell phones. I have a five year old LG, but it also (apparently) should run on the new touch screen phones. The mobility is the key factor for me, without thinking about it I always have some books with me. You can put together a reading list on their site and then use a couple of clicks to install from the phone via mobile.booksinmyphone.com - oh and it's all free.
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by boy444 June 13, 2009 4:30 PM PDT
I love the kindle for the iphone, it's the only way you'll get to read, through technology. I never read any ways, but if I got the Dx, which I like better than the second one, I would read more. Can you get aduiobooks onto the kindle, then I could love the story more with the narrator making it sound more lively.
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by AListener June 14, 2009 2:35 AM PDT
boy444,
Yes, you can get audible.com books onto your Kindle. There's a special folder for those and they're heard via two stereo speakers on the bottom edge or, if you prefer, with headphones.

The Kindle can also read to you but you woulldn't like it !

- Andrys
http://kindleworld.blogspot.com
by irueludruel June 13, 2009 7:21 PM PDT
Convenience of the Kindle is great but not sure if as consumers we want all of our content to be digitally distributed. No resale value or letting a friend borrow. Also if there is ever a problem you can't return it and have to call someone in India.
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by AListener June 14, 2009 2:39 AM PDT
irueludruel,
If the book is $25 and on the bestseller list and it's $10 at Amazon in Kindle format, do you prefer to buy it at a higher price so that you can loan it out to friends?

However, if it's not on the bestseller's list, then the Kindle price may be too close to that $25 (seldom) and then that would definitely be bad. Most people I know are not buying when it's above $10 or even $15 for the pricier $40 books, and it seems to help keep prices down.

- Andrys
by dstdenis July 17, 2009 4:34 PM PDT
You can return Kindle books for 7 days after purchase. Just send an email to Amazon from their customer support page. The title will be removed the next time you sync the Kindle.

If you start reading a free sample of the book before you buy it, you'll probably reduce the chances that you'd want to return a Kindle book.
by AListener June 14, 2009 2:47 AM PDT
Scott,
Yes, I've had a similar reaction. I'm a news addict so that was my main reason and still is, to a point.

But once I got a Kindle, I have a ton of books on, plus a few subscriptions and a lot of non-Amazon feeds, which I choose from to suit my mood and it's great that it keeps my place for me.

If there's been too much time in between, I use the Search feature to get reminded who the person is when I can't remember the character, and it brings up a series of results with context around it, in in a series I can read one after the other to get a full sense of that person's part in that book so far. Amazing to me.

Worse, I was looking for a book, in my house, and found it and then decided to buy the Kindle version to make sure I actually finish reading it ! That's sort of sick. But I prefer reading on the Kindle. i can control the fonts, the spacing between lines, and I can search it.

What's addictive: The words.

You're not distracted by the pretty, or ugly, jacket, the 'feel or smell' of the book, as some insist is important to their experience, but by the author's words. The actual thoughts. It's almost like a mind to mind thing and the look&smell just don't matter. At least not to me.

But I still love hard copy for special travel or photography books .

- Andrys
http://kindleworld.blogspot.com
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by robertmacewan June 14, 2009 10:58 AM PDT
I use both Amazon Kindle Reader software and the free ebook software they purchased recently. On my iPod Touch it works just fine.
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by Saltiva June 15, 2009 6:06 AM PDT
The price of the Kindle seems High- I'd rather have the iPhone- were it no for the solo service provider AT&T which I've had poor experiences with in the past and dropped for the only service provider that works in the Smokey mountains- VERIZON! I love the concept of the iPhone and await a similar phone on Verixon! Kindle to me seems silly and a waste! Yes it is smaller than a laptop, but at least with a laptop you get more! Save that money for the Kindle and put it towards a phone or laptop!
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by jpmccloud01 June 15, 2009 8:02 AM PDT
Here is the problem for me about e books vs pulp. E books are great unless there is a problem downloading with the service, while not common as much as just a few yrs ago it still has the possibility of doing so and with so much stuff electronic and less hard printout we run the possibility of loosing some great stuff in the process. The flip side to electronic media and E books is that people I think read more even if spelling still lags and there is to much acronym, tech speak, and people doing to much multitasking. The pulp book on the other hand is hard, it's weighty, you don't scroll, you flip a page, and if your trying to read and it's to loud you can easily through the book at someone with out crying about the thing costing 100 plus dollars. Lol! I hope hard copy in some safe quantities doesn't go the way of the dinosaur, though for the environment it probably is a good thing if there is less of it
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