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June 15, 2009 9:32 AM PDT

DTV transition update: New York City TV goes post-analog

by John P. Falcone
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Channel 7's analog feed went off the air after the noon news broadcast.

(Credit: John P. Falcone/CNET)

Updated Monday, June 15, at 9 a.m. PDT with post-weekend channel status.

When we last checked in with the local analog TV band, it was the afternoon of Friday, June 12 (scroll down for the original post). Some analog channels had dropped off the grid, while others were flagging their imminent demise. About 72 hours later, with the DTV transition deadline firmly behind us, we rescanned the spectrum to see what we could pull in. Only a handful of analog channels are still standing:

Channel 2 (WCBS): Running a public service announcement in English and Spanish on how to obtain and set up a DTV converter box. (This programming is only on the analog station; the digital one is running the standard CBS feed.)

Channel 4 (WNBC): Running the same public service announcement as WCBS. (This programming is only on the analog station; the digital one is running the standard NBC feed.)

Channel 17 (WEBR): This affiliate of religious broadcaster Global Christian Network is up and running. (It may be a low-power broadcaster, meaning it's exempt from the shutdown for the time being.)

Channel 46 (WMBQ): This affiliate of religious broadcaster Cornerstone TV is a low-power broadcaster, and thus currently exempt from the shutdown.

Channel 60 (W60AI): This Home Shopping Network affiliate is a low-power broadcaster, and thus currently exempt from the shutdown.

It's also worth noting that some of the digital stations have moved. For instance, the WABC digital stations are now broadcasting on RF channel 7 (where the analog station used to be located) instead of channel 45. Likewise, many stations seem to have boosted their digital signal strength, now that they don't have to worry about interfering with their analog counterparts.

Both cases reinforce the importance of rescanning your available channels, so those changes can be detected by the digital tuner. Also, as some stations move from UHF to VHF locations, you may need to reorient your antenna--or you may need to get a new one that pulls in both frequencies. (Indeed, while DTV converter boxes seem to be in plentiful supply, antenna issues and shortages have been one of the notable problems of the transition.)

The original post--which includes links to resources for anyone who remains confused about the transition--follows:

Today's the day. After being pushed back from the original February deadline, the nationwide conversion to digital TV is finally upon us. While the switch does not affect the majority of viewers who receive TV service via cable, fiber, or satellite--or those who are already enjoying digital TV via an antenna--anyone who's been watching analog broadcasts via an antenna should be starting to lose channels.

When we checked our local stations this morning (at CNET's New York City offices on 28th Street), we noted that nearly all of them were still on the air, but were broadcasting a warning crawl at the bottom of the screen alerting viewers that a shutoff was imminent. Throughout the day, starting around noon, some stations started dropping away. As of 5:30 p.m. Eastern Time, here's the status of our local stations:

Channel 2 (WCBS): Running a public service announcement in English and Spanish on how to obtain and set up a DTV converter box. (This programming is only on the analog station; the digital one is running the standard CBS feed.)

Channel 4 (WNBC): Running the same public service announcement as WCBS. (This programming is only on the analog station; the digital one is running the standard NBC feed.)

WNBC's analog TV nightlight

WNBC's analog station is showing a DTV-related PSA.

(Credit: John P. Falcone/CNET)
Channel 5 (WNYW): The Fox affiliate is up and running, but a continuous crawl on the screen is warning of a shutdown at 11:59 p.m. tonight.

Channel 7 (WABC): Off the air.

Channel 9 (WWOR): The MyTV affiliate is up and running, but a continuous crawl on the screen is warning of a shutdown at 11:59 p.m. tonight.

Channel 11 (WPIX): The CW affiliate is off the air.

Channel 13 (WNET): The PBS affiliate is off the air.

Channel 17 (WEBR): This affiliate of religious broadcaster Global Christian Network is up and running. (It may be a low-power broadcaster, meaning it's exempt from the shutdown for the time being.)

Channel 25 (WNYE): This public access station is still up and running.

Channel 31 (WPXN): This Ion affiliate is off the air.

Channel 41 (WXTV): This Spanish-language Univision station is still up and running.

Channel 47 (WNJU): This Spanish-language Telemundo affiliate is still up and running.

Channel 60 (W60AI): This Home Shopping Network affiliate is a low-power broadcaster, and thus currently exempt from the shutdown.

Channel 68 (WFUT): This Spanish-language Telefutura affiliate is still up and running.

We'll be updating this post over the next 24 hours to determine which, if any, of these analog stations are still on the air.

Still confused about the switchover? Check out CNET's Guide to the Digital TV Transition for complete information.

In the meantime, let us know how the transition is going in your area in the comments below.

John P. Falcone covers home theater and network entertainment products. He's been writing for CNET since 2002.
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by Been_there_Saw_it_before June 12, 2009 12:39 PM PDT
I was watching KPIX in San Francisco when the switch was supposed to go off, but David Letterman did not miss a syllable.
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by licht1 June 12, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
The Digital TV transition is no trouble at all if your cables are correctly polarized. Go to Screen 47 of the DTV Converter Box On-Screen Installation Guide and use the resident GPS to correctly align your antenna for each channel, allowing for local ionospheric conditions, and ARRRGGGHH!


Technical reference:


http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/06/12/tv-d-day-usa/
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by gerrrg June 12, 2009 1:16 PM PDT
6 of my digital stations disappeared, and one finally made an appearance...oh wait, you were talking about analog stations?
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by mdulcey June 12, 2009 5:58 PM PDT
When the digital transition happens, some stations will be moving from their temporary channel assignments to their permanent post-transition channels. You will need to have your DTV set or converter re-scan for channels as the transition happens.
by Apexi_a June 12, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
The new DTV signals are underpowered for the region that they are being sent out. Assume major problems for some unless radio telescope sized antenna is used. If television is not your thing, non of this matter even today.
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by worldofcrap June 12, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
Strangely, both digital channels for WCBS-TV and WABC are down for me! Can't pick up anything, even after rescanning! What gives, I've been watching both digitally for months.

Wait, WCBS is back on, but it's just a top-of-building cam of Central Park. Guess they're having trouble...
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by K4NBC June 12, 2009 3:37 PM PDT
Patience. WCBS left the air early to swap frequencies and antennas with WPIX. WCBS will begin DTV transmissions shortly on ch 33, WPIX vacates ch 33 to run digital on ch 11. There's a lot of overnight work going on at ESB. Many stations will be operating at reduced power, or using AUX antennas till all the new antennas are up and at full power. This may take several days for some. Keep re-autoprogramming your unit. All your stations will be back. Got work 2do, bye.
by NervClaX June 12, 2009 1:34 PM PDT
OMG! THE HUMANITY! PEOPLE ARE RUNNING WILD IN THE STREETS, LOOTING, BURNING CARS AND HOMES! SEND HELP! GET ME OUT OF HERE!

...and WCBS is off the air in Detroit.
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by No Man June 12, 2009 1:45 PM PDT
Looks like all the St Louis metro stations are off except for KSDK, and they're just running a PSA on the switch.
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by vprods June 12, 2009 1:55 PM PDT
It's the end of TV as we know it... and I feel fine
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by sartor1 June 12, 2009 2:01 PM PDT
worldofcrap said;
"Strangely, both digital channels for WCBS-TV and WABC are down for me! Can't pick up anything, even after rescanning! What gives, I've been watching both digitally for months."

Same here... happened months ago ... when the local NBC station turned off their analog, they also changed broadcast frequency. I lost the signal.. rescan did nothing. I had a DIY Digital Antenna that worked perfectly good before, so what gives?? I have an old house with aluminum siding, so I guess that particular frequency couldn't penetrate it or something.. ANYWAY.. Ended up I had to get a powered HDTV antenna, and boost up the signal to max.. (an RCA brand from Wally world)... One thing I found also... the antenna has to be away from the TV as far as possible, as the TV interferes with reception. Also, Anything metal nearby can affect reception.. like a tall metal floor lamp that didn't matter before, but I had to move it after the switch, because it was also interfering with reception. Cheers! I'll be GLAD when it's al complete tomorrow!!!!
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by K4NBC June 12, 2009 3:38 PM PDT
Patience. WCBS left the air early to swap frequencies and antennas with WPIX. WCBS will begin DTV transmissions shortly on ch 33, WPIX vacates ch 33 to run digital on ch 11. There's a lot of overnight work going on at ESB. Many stations will be operating at reduced power, or using AUX antennas till all the new antennas are up and at full power. This may take several days for some. Keep re-autoprogramming your unit. All your stations will be back. Got work 2do, bye.
by electracon June 12, 2009 3:49 PM PDT
Your problem may be your box is still holding old frequency and not updating when you re-scan. I have found most boxes and New ATSC tuner equipped sets have to have old channel deleted before re-scan. If you see the channel label on screen and it says no signal, then you probably need to delete the old channel first . This could be either delete channel or view/not view. PS If you have an RCA box and have signal that comes and go then you need MORE antenna as the tuner in those RCA boxes are inferior to most of the other ones( 20 signal with RCA versus 70 on most other boxes) Remember- location,location,location. Also most areas need a VHF/UHF type of antenna not just Digital ready antenna as some sellers are advertising as such. Some of those only are for channels 14-65 and not 2-13.
by worldofcrap June 12, 2009 2:10 PM PDT
WCBS is back now. WABC is still MIA. Their local news team's gotta be pissed...
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by jpfalcone June 12, 2009 2:30 PM PDT
As of now, we're seeing the digital versions of WABC and WNBC. We can't see WCBS-DT right now, but I think it's just because of our location.
by lilredhouse June 12, 2009 3:13 PM PDT
Had HDTV wide screen on all major broadcasters this morning, but now getting 1080i in Standard Def 4x3 format on everything but local PBS station, which is 720p. Using 1950s rooftop antenna with newer TV that has ATSC tuner and HDMI interface. Has worked great i.e. free over air HiDef for over 2 years.
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by mochandler June 12, 2009 3:24 PM PDT
It would seem that Time Warner is rebroadcasting the digital signal as an analog signal. My HDTV shows whether the signal is analog or digital and the lower (basic) channels on Time Warner show as analog.
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by martin_c_e June 12, 2009 6:49 PM PDT
The cable companies convert the digital signal to 480i for the basic (analog) service. The digital channels are on the upper digital channels.
by sxydeeny June 12, 2009 3:46 PM PDT
..wow
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by libertyforall1776 June 12, 2009 3:55 PM PDT
In Chicagoland, CBS finally moved to a higher VHF station to allow antenna viewers to more easily receive it -- FINALLY... ;-)
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by ddhboy June 12, 2009 4:11 PM PDT
WNBC is at full blast for me, much more constant signal. WCBS is up.
WNYW is fine, but WWOR is dead, which is fine because WNYW is broadcasting both station's signals.
13 is dead, which it has been for me for a while. WLIW is up, though its been dead for me for the weeks leading up to the transition.
WNYE is being picked up. WPXN (usually 11, now on 31) is dead, I'll rescan to see if they moved back, but both CW and that Latin station is gone. WNYN is up, but the audio is extremely low.
NJN is up.
WFUT (channel 68) fades in and out
There's something on channels 69, 70 and 72 that I'm picking up. Its WNYN but reflected. No volume on this channel. 71 is WNYN-3 but with audio
WFME is dead
KEAR-FM is dead and all Channel 66 channels are dead (not sure what this is, but it shows up on my EyeTV setup on my mac). Additionally 66 has another channel, 66-10 that's been described for future use.

Additionally week digital signals that I managed to pick up (some Korean/spanish station w/ 4 subchannels in the 60s or 70s) are MIA after the rescan. 13 most notably is totally gone.
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by ivorycruncher June 12, 2009 4:36 PM PDT
Boy am I glad I have DirecTV, so I don't have to worry about this mess. =)
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by sakenu16 June 12, 2009 4:58 PM PDT
I am in queens (NYC) getting CBS, NBC, FOX, CW, but not WABC, WPIX or PBS 13. WABC and WPIX used to be crystal clear prior to the switch. I was never able to get digital PBS 13 prior to the switch, so not sure if that will even come through.
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by does.tv June 12, 2009 6:45 PM PDT
eeeeehhhhhhaaaaaaaa! Let the games begin!

I'm a chief engineer and will be going in at 11pm central time tonight to flip the switches on my transmitters. I'm expecting about a zillion voicemails when I come back to work on Monday.
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by martin_c_e June 12, 2009 6:52 PM PDT
Most of the Houston stations turned off their analog transmitters at 6:45 am. 4 stations made frequency changes almost instantaneously. Some will be upgrading their towers and increasing power and all should be finalized by June 18.
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by wavjockey June 12, 2009 6:59 PM PDT
At my station, we put up a slide during the Noon news and we immediately got phone calls from morons who had no idea this was happening. Hopefully, the weak will perish.

On a different note:
I wish ALL DTV tuners, set-up and integrated, would automatically detect station changes---without manual auto scanning; much in the same way computers know when a device is connected or deconnected.
It can happen either during power-up/power-down or while in stand-by.

Given the relative stupidity of many viewers in this country, doing a rescan is harder than planning a manned mission to Mars.
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