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May 24, 2009 12:33 PM PDT

Honoring the fallen on a Google Earth map

by Dong Ngo
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Map the Fallen loaded in Google Earth

(Credit: Screenshot by Dong Ngo/CNET)

Each Memorial Day we honor the men and women in uniform who have paid the ultimate price for the freedom we enjoy. Traditionally, this is the day many people visit cemeteries and memorials, especially the Arlington National Cemetery. But not all of us can do that. This year there's an alternative.

Sean Askay, a Google engineer, released on Sunday a Google Earth layer, called Map the Fallen, that contains detailed information of more than 5,700 service members who died in the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. This is an interactive tool that lets you see photos, learn about how each service member died, visit memorial Web sites with comments from friends and families, and explore the places they called home and where they died.

Askay has no military affiliation or background and developed the project on his personal time. He said on his Map the Fallen blog that he came up with the idea when he was still a student and ran across icasualties.org, a public database of soldiers who have died since the beginning of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

According to Askay's blog, the Map the Fallen layer contains information collected from a number of sources, including the Department of Defense's Statistical Information Analysis Division, icasualties.org, MilitaryTimes.com's Honor the Fallen, The Washington Post's Faces of the Fallen, the Iraq and Afghanistan Pages, and Legacy.com.

The layer requires Google Earth 5.0 or later. Once the software is installed, you just need to download the Map the Fallen layer layer and choose to open it. After a few seconds, the layer will be loaded and you can learn much about honorable men and women who you might otherwise not know about at all.

Personally, seeing the sheer number of human figures closely shown on the surface of the Earth is enough to leave me feeling somber and humbled.

What Askay did shows the true meaning of Memorial Day, and for a lot of us it offers an easy and convenient way to frequently remember and honor those we are often too distracted to do that for.

Dong Ngo is a CNET editor who covers networking and network storage, and writes about anything else he finds interesting. You can also listen to his podcast at insidecnetlabs.cnet.com. E-mail Dong.
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by V-G-L May 24, 2009 1:41 PM PDT
'Easy and convenient'.. What an odd thing to say
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by Electro_Fox May 24, 2009 1:53 PM PDT
P.S. V-G-L... You're right, that did strike me as kind of an odd statement... Today I am going to Oak Hill Memorial to visit my Father's, a brother's, and an old high school girlfriend's grave. None of which will be "Easy OR convenient"... Good call...
by Electro_Fox May 24, 2009 1:47 PM PDT
Nice. Purely political... Why can't we map ALL of our Veterans, from ALL conflicts? Don't use our fallen heroes as cannon fodder for quasi-political statements, please...
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by fondy May 24, 2009 2:19 PM PDT
Yeah, what he said. If our troops are going to be used as cannon fodder it should be for expanding the American empire!
by Laurel-LaFlamme May 24, 2009 2:24 PM PDT
I agree with you 100%. But rather than criticize this magnificent feat, perhaps we should consider it a starting point? If this kind of brilliant technology exists maybe one day there will be all kinds of Google Maps to honor a WIDE variety of fallen...from hunger, war, all wars, child abuse, lack of clean drinking water...etc.

We can't fault the creator of the Map for having the freedom to chose which "Fallen" he wanted to quantify. It was a noble effort, and a brilliant one. I doubt one day Sean woke up and said, "Hum, I think I'll do something political today."

If this kind of Google Map can be created, just think of all the other things it will lead to. The possibilities are endless and will benefit many for different reasons.
by DrForbin May 24, 2009 3:41 PM PDT
The media is not the message!! Don't criticize Askay for taking the time to provide this mash up and
provide an easy way to assimilate a number of database in one convenient UI. Askay is performing
an admirable service to all of are fallen service men in Afghanistan and Iraq, lest we forget their sacrifices. The method he choose was one that as he stated was convenient and since he works for Google getting a handling on the Google maps API was probably not a problem for him. I for one don't see a dominate political statement in his application, if he was trying to make a political statement, and if he wanted to he could have been a lot blunter.
by Cruton May 24, 2009 5:21 PM PDT
I agree with the dr. Askay was using the resources available to create a wonderful tool to help citicens like me better feel the impact of this war. I would love to see this expanded to other wars also, but I really doubt that it will happen due to the lack of resources available. Be thankful for what is given to you.
by monkeyfun14 May 24, 2009 11:24 PM PDT
Eh it would probably be hard and unrealistic. There are millions of war deaths many of which locations of death can not even be accounted for do to bad record keeping.
by Laurel-LaFlamme May 24, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
It's great to see someone adapting our existing technology for the greater good. If it were "me," I would consider it a great honor to be remembered after passing away in service to my nation. One of the greatest things you can do for a person who has died is evoke their name and memory.

I think the whole point is this: "You can learn so much more about those honorable men and women that you might otherwise don't know about at all." Bravo.

It's a heartfelt undertaking for Sean Askay to spend his own personal time in creating this informational tribute to "Map the Fallen." He hasn't even been in the military but recognized how important it is to utilize this technology to help people.

Maybe the Map of the Fallen will get SO FULL of "dots" that someone will recognize how vital it is to put a STOP to all this madness once and for all.

Thank you, Sean.
Warm Regards from a grateful wife whose husband served 8 years in the US Army and lived to come home to me from Desert Storm. I wish all had been so fortunate.
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by evilbughead May 24, 2009 3:47 PM PDT
big deal why don't you show where the 1.5 million Iraqis have died due to this illegal war?
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by a13xx94 May 24, 2009 4:08 PM PDT
Our Soldiers deserve the highest respect...you may not give a **** but they fought for our country and did what they had to do. It doesn't matter if you support the war or not (I don't) but you are a piece of **** that should be shot before a firing squad for disregarding their sacrifice.

Semper Fidelis
by mythrilfan May 24, 2009 4:22 PM PDT
To a13xx94

Does fighting "for" a country simply mean that they were enlisted in that country's military?

And did you ever consider that not every commenter is from the United States? If he was, for example, from Sweden, why would he have to care more for the 4000+ American troops than for the 1,5 million Iraqi (mostly) civilians?
by a13xx94 May 24, 2009 6:02 PM PDT
I sympathize for the Iraqis but even as an illegal war, evilbughead is showing disrespect for men/women who died for THEIR nation.

I wouldn't say "big deal" if Britain lost brave Soldiers in combat either. Shrugging away their sacrifice is disgusting.
by zepol22 May 24, 2009 9:18 PM PDT
@evilbughead

Wow. Are you that unpatriotic that you would say something that stupid. War is war. We live free today because people died for that freedom. And to this day, people continue to fight for it. There will be carnage, blood, and death on both sides. You can call this war whatever you want. But in the end, it comes down to fighting for our country, so that we can continue to live free. War is not supposed to be all fun and games. People will die, innocent and not. You have the right to disagree with the war, but you have no right to disrespect your soldiers who are fighting for you no matter what country you are from. It's sickening that people like you exist. If you hate this country so much because it is waging "an illegal war" you can head over to the Middle East and sympathize with al-qaeda. They are sure to be nice to you. Maybe you should put on fatigues and be sent out to battle. Maybe then you will realize the what the "big deal" is. For now though . . . shut up.
by a13xx94 May 24, 2009 9:21 PM PDT
@ zepol22: I agree with you completely...although I feel that the war is waged on corrupt reasons (cough...Dick Cheney...cough), you have no right to disregard the men/women who fight for their country (on any side).
by monkeyfun14 May 24, 2009 11:27 PM PDT
@evil

Which of many were killed by there own race...

Believe it or not the al khaida has killed more iraqi's then the US has.
by expatincebu May 24, 2009 5:35 PM PDT
I find it sad that as a nation we do not have character to remember and grieve for the millions of innocent dead we have murdered in our wars for profit.
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by X-C3PO May 24, 2009 7:48 PM PDT
Did not see any honor in the article, only see the arrogant viewpoint.
So many innocent citizens were killed in the war, does the google care about?
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by XiroMisho May 25, 2009 4:49 AM PDT
The developer did this on his free time. He did this for the families of American soldiers, as those are what is tracked and easily accessible via the tools he had. So many innocent citizens are killed by more than war - That's actually what this war's founding notion should have been. It should have been to liberate the people of Iraq from Saddam... that should have been the sole reason. There were no WMD's, those were manufactured to push the war, but it should have been a bigger point that Saddam was killing his people, and that in all honesty... we put him there - it was our responsibility to remove him. why we are still there I don't know, but still if you're going to push that about how many were killed, the map would be unreadable.

I don't support the war, as in my opinion it is over, and we should bring our boys and girls home. The war in Afghanistan was needed, Al Quada was another militant force, and had attacked us... Al Quada seemed to not reason the history of what happens when a smaller arrogant nation attacks a small portion of a larger nation. Like those we lost in Pearl Harbor, that became 9/11 - and like in Pearl Harbor they only woke the sleeping giant... albeit this time the giant was a bit more clumsy.

Regardless, these are soldiers who believed they were fighting for the good of our nation. They cannot think anything else or their cause and fight is worthless. Despite our dislike of their commanders and chief's at the time, they are there to protect us, at all times. My grandfather fought, my father in-law fought. I did not, but I honor what they had done - my grandfather had the benefit to die in his bed, an old man surrounded by a loving family, but I know that in heaven he'll be welcomed not only by his family, but also his brothers in arms who did fall.
by El_Queso May 24, 2009 10:56 PM PDT
Memorial Day is for remembering those who have died. The map was designed, as mentioned in the title, to remember the Coalition Forces whose lives were ended during the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. If you have no one to remember or can not sympathize with those who do, the map was not intended for you. This is not a political statement for or against anything. It is simply a gesture to assist those who are remembering.
The editor, Dong Ngo, saw it as such. It saddens me to see Electro_Fox, expatincebu, and X-C3PO use it as a launching pad for hatred. It saddens me more to see the hatred spewed back at them by a13xx94 and zepol22. One of our greatest freedoms in the United States is the freedom of speech. The only problem is, too many people exercise it when they shouldn't.
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by c-n-e-t May 25, 2009 7:15 AM PDT
Try mapping the Iraq-Iranian war dead. Reported to be over 1 million people. How about prosecuting Ali Hoseyni Kh?mene?i and Jalal Talibani for THOSE war crimes?
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by dburr13 May 25, 2009 8:33 AM PDT
This map is especially relevant because it represent casualties of a conflict that is in progress...It is not the political statement some have made it to be...We should not hide our honored dead of this war or the dead of any other...The days when we were not to speak of such things is over...This battle is real...It's ongoing...and it's casualties should not be hidden to placate those who would hide the cost of war for some empty political reason.
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by Greenmantis May 25, 2009 4:53 PM PDT
I think that this tool in no manner disrespects the fallen military heroes that have paid the ultimate price for our country. Regardless of your political agendas, leanings, or affiliations, I believe that it is important to honor those that have fought for those that cannot.

When you are fighting for your life and that of your buddies? lives, politics become meaningless. While the brave men and women may have initially signed-up, enlisted out of a sense of patriotism, love of country, or a desire to better themselves, all of that is forgotten when the bullets start flying and mortars start landing. You are fighting to stay alive, and keep your buddies alive while accomplishing a task under the most demanding of situations.

On Memorial Day and beyond, let us not forget that the Soldier, Marine, Guardsman, Airman, or Sailor has no input as to what their current mission is, and that they are ready and willing to defend our country to the death if called upon. We are a country governed by the people. You don't like what our current political leaders are doing? Then get involved and change it. There are service men and women dying for your privilege of being able to do so.

In any case, please, tell the next serviceman you meet or talk to, thank you for their service, they really appreciate it. They don't ask for much.
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by minhmeister May 26, 2009 6:05 AM PDT
Would those who have died in war want us to remember where or how they die, or would they rather we remember them for what they died for?
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by biffhenerson May 26, 2009 8:11 AM PDT
One million cheers to the United States military. They choose to defend the country with honor while others choose to bash it in shame. They put their lives on the line so that others, like me, can have lives worth living. Thank you! Plotting death on a map helps bring into context the relatively small number of our fallen heroes. Small but NOT insignificant. Thank goodness the figure is nowhere near the numbers who were lost in World War I, or II, or Vietnam. Although the modern day number is comparatively small, it is NOT insignificant at all. The United States military has become very good at what they do. Keeping soldiers safe is one of the things they do much better than before. Given this trend in reduced deaths, I hope that someday it will be zero. Thank you to all who have defended the United States of America.
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by NervClaX May 26, 2009 9:24 AM PDT
I'm all for remembering our fallen heroes, but this use of Google Earth strikes me as impersonal and cold. It might have an effect the opposite of what was intended, creating distance and a certain numbness to the casualties of war. To paraphrase Stalin, "Kill one man and it's murder. Kill one million men and it's a statistic."

I would rather remember fallen veterans in name and deed than by number and satellite location. Technology has its limits and I don't think this helps us to remember them any better.
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by Len Bullard May 26, 2009 9:39 AM PDT
Want to remember the dead? Honor the living. The next time you are in a restaurant and see a military member and or family eating at the next table, silently pay for their meal and ask the wait staff NOT to reveal your identity. THAT they will feel and understand and you won't have to debate the topic with anyone.

Some friends of mine and I have been doing that since September 12, 2001 as possible. No thanks necessary, nor recognition desirable. We simply want them to know their service is appreciated sincerely beyond ANY politics.
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by BrettLewis1234 May 27, 2009 3:59 AM PDT
My brother is Lt Aaron Lewis killed on the 15th December 2008 in Afghanistan. I can only say that unless you have a loved one or friend that has lost his or her life should you even begin to try and begin to make comment on how this kind of memorial may make you feel. Any tribute by another person to the men and woment who selflessly protect us from the terror of the world is a good one and obviously dome with the very best of intentions. I thank you for this and hope that it becomes a lasting tool to demonstrate the magnitude of what the Army is up against and the amount of work we still have to do to make our countries safe for our children and their children to come.
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