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April 13, 2009 11:54 AM PDT

Report: Carriers 'pass' on forthcoming Dell handset

by Erica Ogg
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Whenever Dell does unveil its much-hinted-about new handset, it will apparently be taking a nontraditional route to the market, according to an analyst report Monday.

Dell has decided to sell its new product through retailers only, Ashok Kumar of Collins Stewart said. While that's certainly interesting, and in line with Dell's recent record of testing new ways of approaching the market with its products, the reason Kumar gives is far more tantalizing: he says U.S. and European carriers were none too impressed with Dell's effort when the company tried to sign up some wireless partners during a meeting at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona last month.

Dell handset Axim

Dell hasn't sold a handset since it axed the popular Axim in 2007.

(Credit: CNET)

"The carriers, who see products from all the leading handset vendors, have decided to pass on Dell's handset," he wrote in a research note Monday. "Some carriers are citing a noncompelling product with a road map that lags competition."

Dell hasn't responded to a request for comment. But if Kumar's claims are true, this presents serious problems for Dell. The company already has relationships with some of the major carriers, including AT&T and Verizon Wireless, to sell wireless-service plans for its notebooks and Netbooks in the United States and in Europe. Rejecting what will, by its very nature, be a high-profile product from a current business partner doesn't speak very well of the product's competitiveness.

Having been rejected from the major carriers will also handicap the device from the start, since U.S. consumers are conditioned to buying subsidized phones and may balk at paying a full price. But the bigger problem is that there's just not that much market share left to grab, especially without the marketing might of large carriers behind it.

"It's a crowded market. Two years ago, (Dell) may have had an opportunity, but (Research In Motion), Nokia, and Apple have been joined by HTC, Samsung, LG, Palm, Motorola, (and Acer)," Kumar said in an interview. "The market is extremely crowded just as it's slowing down."

Another report on Monday says Dell is in talks with China Mobile to develop a partnership for its device in China. If a partnership pans out, Dell's phone could launch in China by the end of the year, according to Zhang Jun, an analyst at research firm Wedge MKI. In such a scenario, Dell's device would use Open Mobile System, China Mobile's operating system, which is based on Google's Android, he wrote.

But even with a carrier, the Chinese market could be quite challenging for Dell, Kumar said.

"China is a more difficult nut to crack because the market is dominated by white-box and local vendors," he said. The largest part of the market is for phones that cost around $150, and Kumar says the bill of materials for Dell's handset will likely make it cost "well north of $200."

Dell has been targeting the Chinese market heavily in the past year with its PC products. The country is now Dell's second-largest market overall. On a recent trip through Asia, company founder and Chief Executive Michael Dell addressed rumors of an upcoming handheld product, saying, "It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect that we would have smaller mobile Internet devices or smartphones in the future."

Erica Ogg is a CNET News reporter who covers Apple, HP, Dell, and other PC makers, as well as the consumer electronics industry. She's also one of the hosts of CNET News' Daily Podcast. In her non-work life, she's a history geek, a loyal Dodgers fan, and a mac-and-cheese connoisseur. E-mail Erica.
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by phylth April 13, 2009 1:04 PM PDT
What's known about Dell's product? What if, for instance, it's a wide-reception WIFI-enabled VOIP phone that simply undermines the wireless business model? That would explain why carriers don't like it but Dell still has a degree of confidence going to market.

Dell's usually a pretty shrewd operator. A few years ago its Axim devices were among the best pure PDAs, and at the best pricepoint as well.
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by Hep Cat April 13, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
The Axim was popular? I've never even seen one. Dell sucks at handhelds.
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by catch23 April 13, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
then how would you know what Dell is capable of, if you never used one? Ah, you don't, your just spouting moronic FUD.

The Axim was quite popular, and one of the best PDA's on the market at the time. They let it stagnate, which is why it simply died.
I'm interested in what they will try, but not all that hopeful. Unless they can release a full featured smart phone at a low, unsubsidized price, I don't think it will stand a chance.
by JCPayne April 13, 2009 2:11 PM PDT
Axim? Never heard of it.
by Genjinaro April 13, 2009 2:47 PM PDT
The Axim X51v was the most powerful/affordable Windows Mobile device for years, it excelled very well and was able to have an expandable capacity of 64GB, 624mhz processor, Great video capability, Voip able, VGA etc..
Looking back, if Dell had acted then and entered the Smartphone market, building off of what the X51v was *Google the specs/reviews* they'd be very far ahead competitively but only if they build-up from the spec of the X51v.
catch23 is spot on.
by fmusignac April 13, 2009 1:34 PM PDT
Companies should concentrate on what theyre good at. Dell keep making reasonably priced-high quality PC's. Leave that to others unless you have a product that is new to the market (As in Mac with the iPhone).
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by monkeyfun14 April 13, 2009 1:48 PM PDT
Why because the product might fail? Thats not our problem thats theirs and if it works out it ads more to competition to keep prices low and innovation high.
by Goodbye Helicopter April 13, 2009 1:59 PM PDT
Dell makes high-quality anything?!! that must be a joke.
They're past their prime.
They'll be gone in a few years as the Taiwanese who do all their design and manufacture just cut them out of the picture and go direct to market.
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by monkeyfun14 April 13, 2009 2:31 PM PDT
Dell does make high quality computers got any sources to prove otherwise?

And do you honestly think Apple makes their computers here? Hell no..
by JCPayne April 13, 2009 2:15 PM PDT
Dell is a perfect buy out target for Apple. Apple's stock towers above Dell's.
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by SeizeCTRL April 13, 2009 6:50 PM PDT
But I see about 20 to 1 Dell's out in the real world compared to Apple. Apple may have higher stock values, but it's market share is a drop in the bucket compared to Dell. While most Dell PC's are cheap pieces of crap, there must be a market for that or they wouldn't have done so well since they started. I could never find myself buying a Dell for personal use and I definitely do not purchase them for work... but I will give them credit, they are at least trying to come out with some eye catching designs now.

As for the Axim, they were great little machines. Half the people at my last job had one. I didn't bother because I was happy with my iPaq.
by seven7dust April 14, 2009 1:18 AM PDT
can people stop advising Apple wat to do
the are doing just fine now !
by xenophod April 13, 2009 5:07 PM PDT
No complaints against Dell, its the standard at work and does fine for plain old black box computers. I had an Axim, nice bit of hardware and short sighted that they killed it off.

But now it seems that Michael Dell is chasing Steve Jobs. When I think of innovative companies developing cutting edge tech I sure don't think of Dell. Speaking of what was the latest new tech that Dell invented or brought to market? humm humm humm still thinking.
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by tech_crazy April 13, 2009 9:29 PM PDT
My wife has the x50v. A solid PDA with a then (and even mostly now) unheard of 640x480 resolution, a fast 624 MHz processor, built-in WiFi, bluetooth and both SD, CF slots. A marvellous piece of hardware. Plus, due to WinMo, could get may applications comparable to their desktop counterparts. Too bad they missed the boat on making it a smartphone and even worse, killed it. Her Axim is now 4+ years old and going strong (touch wood).
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