February 24, 2009 9:25 AM PST

Masses to Marvell at tiny wall plug computer?

by Dong Ngo
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You might have heard of or even used a powerline network adapter, such as the one made by Netgear that plugs directly into the wall. Now think of a similar-looking device that's an entire computer.

The SheevaPlug computer.

(Credit: Marvell)

Marvell on Tuesday introduced a new kind of personal computer, called SheevaPlug, along with its Plug Computing initiative. The idea is to make make a high-performance, ultracompact, and green computer that consumers can plug right into a wall power socket.

Because the SheevaPlug draws less than a tenth of the power of a typical PC being used as a home server, according to Marvell, it can be left on all the time. And although it is very similar to a powerline adapter in shape and size, the SheevaPlug computer contains a gigahertz-class processor to offer PC-like performance.

The current SheevaPlug model uses a Marvell Kirkwood processor running at 1.2GHz, is equipped with 512 megabytes of flash memory storage and 512MB DRAM, and connects to a network via Gigabit Ethernet. The computer has one USB 2.0 port that can be used to host directly attached storage or to connect to other networking and storage devices.

If it's not obvious, you won't be able to install Windows Vista on the SheevaPlug; instead, it supports multiple standard Linux 2.6 kernel distributions. It seems that the only way to interact with it is via a Web browser.

If you are a developer interested in finding out what this plug-in computer can do, the SheevaPlug development kit is available now for $99, cheaper than most powerline network adapters. Rumor has it that the price will even be reduced in the next few months.

Dong Ngo is a CNET editor who covers networking and network storage, and writes about anything else he finds interesting. You can also listen to his podcast at insidecnetlabs.cnet.com. E-mail Dong.
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by karpenterskids February 24, 2009 10:03 AM PST
Wow....very....unique?




I wouldn't really want to buy one, though.
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by James7777777 February 24, 2009 10:24 AM PST
I wonder if it can run some type of virtual network to allow access to a home network while away.
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by NikEst February 24, 2009 10:25 AM PST
This could be a great file server. I want one!
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by dragonbite February 24, 2009 10:26 AM PST
Still not sure how one would be used, with only 512 MB of space. Maybe as a web server for an attached hard disk (via USB) or a printer server but it seems there are alternatives to that (networked printers, most external hard disks are network ready).

I'd prefer 2 NICs so I can use it as a router/firewall/content filter for my network and plug it in before the wireless router so all internet connections are filtered.
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by Vegaman_Dan February 24, 2009 10:42 AM PST
isn't this story about two years old now? I remember hearing about this years ago but nothing ever came of it.

Looks like a neat device, but if you want one, buy it up when it's available. It isn't likely to be around long- the neat hackable sorts of things tend to disappear.
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by MD_Willington February 25, 2009 12:17 PM PST
Yes these are really about that old.
by Zandora777 February 24, 2009 12:01 PM PST
1) It is silly to make it a wall-wart. Since you will need to run a CAT-5 cable to the ethernet jack anyway for it to be useful, it would be better to have a standard AC cord so it didn't block your other AC outlet and/or not fit in typical power strips. If you buy that logic, the point of it being as small as it is isn't really that big a deal.

2) The 1 GB storage limit is too small to be useful as a server by itself, so in practice you will need to use the one-and-only USB port for external storage (or use a NAS drive). If you do the former, then now you have 2 cables (Ethernet and USB) running to the wall-wart, yet another reason to wonder why its a wall-wart form-factor.

3) Since it has a Linux network stack, you wouldn't *need* a web browser to interact with it. You could use remote shell, telnet, or lots of other methods, depending on what you have installed.

4) The fact that its so low-power seems mostly irrelevant since its not a mobile device, it plugs into AC, and doesn't have a display, rotating platter drives, or fans, which are the largest power hogs in a typical system. I suspect it is low-power because that's a side effect of it being cheap and small and underpowered, and they are re-spinning those facts into something positive.

5) Seems pretty gimmicky. I can't think of any useful applications. I am interested in hearing from people that can think of niches for it. The only thing I can think of is price, *if* its really cheap. (Note they only say that the devkit is $99, not the actual unit). Does the devkit include an actual unit, or is it some emulation package?
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by Vegaman_Dan February 24, 2009 12:38 PM PST
But... but it's cute!

Come on now, do you really need any other reason to want a geek item like this? it's just cool because it's what it is.
by roland827 February 24, 2009 1:36 PM PST
1. I agree about the silliness of having the form factor as a wall plug as since most geeks would probably plug this to a UPS for uninterrupted power... an AC/DC adaptor would've been nice as I have a cordless phone UPS (a universal and small battery backup for cordless phone that outputs 3 to 12VDC), that I use for routers and switches...

2. 1GB storage limit? What are you talking about? Are you talking about the Gigabit Ethernet port? I have a NSLU2 running 32MB RAM, and it's my file server for a 1TB USB hard drive...

3. Yes.. but if you want you can design a GUI interface that connects to the Sheevaplug remotely, but it already has a webserver so it's simplier to do that than create a windows app that does the same thing... something that small doesn't have space for your ATI 4870 video card... :-)

4. The form factor really is a bit strange, but 5 watt of power required, it can run in your car using an inverter... or possibly bypass the AC circuit and supply direct DC current using a solar panel...

5. I'm just waiting for confirmation if it runs USB TV tuners, and if it does, then bye bye Media Center PC...
by rapier1 February 24, 2009 2:10 PM PST
I can think of a number of uses depending on how powerful it is. If it can actually drive a full GE at line rate then it would make an easily deployable network traffic sink running NPAD. It would also work reasonably well as media server with an externally attached drive. Maybe not with HD but it should handle the music and video reasonably well - again - assuming that it can drive the USB at full rate. Actually, it could handle most low volume server tasks without much hassle. You could custom build wireless access point with it. Use it as a router by attaching a USB ethernet port to it. You can chain more USB devices off of it with a hub. etc etc etc...
by jomxjom March 3, 2009 9:12 PM PST
1. ...if you want a standard ac cord, couldn't you... buy an extension cord?
2. given that extension cords are still for sale (...aren't they?) why make it anything other than a wall wart? why have 2 boxes connected by a dc cord? (i.e. wall-wart + dc cord + very tiny chassis)?
3. ok, good point.
4. ...oh, yes, certainly irrelevant. reductions in greenhouse gas production are definitely completely and totally irrelevant under any circumstances.
5. ...you seriously can't think of any useful applications? serionsly? how much thinking are we talking about here? personally, I would probably use this as a file server or a print server or a digital media client (via a usb audio adapter like the griffin imic) or combine it with a webcam to make a security camera or... basically the possibilities are endless.
by w_bee February 24, 2009 12:14 PM PST
I already have my power plugs, and extensions, cluttered with all kinds of power connectors for PCs, printers, cell phones, routers, modems...
I need solution to consolidate all these power sources, not to add even more low computing power devices to power plugs to make bad situation even worse.
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by msanto February 24, 2009 12:57 PM PST
Doesn't it remind anyone of that Indian "notebook" they announced a little while ago. It wasn't really a notebook, but something like this.
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by roland827 February 24, 2009 1:23 PM PST
This is a nice replacement for my Linksys NSLU2 which currently is running Openwrt and uNSLUng firmware. I'm currently using it as webcam server, file server, torrent client, print server, asterisk PBX, etc...

For those complaining about the 512MB firmware and 512MB RAM of the SheevaPlug, compared to my NSLU2 memory (running 32MB) , the Sheevaplug has massive memory... remember this is running LINUX, and 512MB is already huge for a non-gui system. Only Windoze users will need more memory but this is not designed to run Windows (although it probably can, I just repaired a friend's computer running Windows Vista on a 512MB P4 PC)

Hopefully, this device would replace does expensive NAS or print servers... also thinking this would do a lot of good for those running their PCs 24/7 for torrents, file services, media center, etc.. USB based multimedia devices like TV tuners, audio servers, etc can now run on a low powered server like this and no need to waste electricity...
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by wadetandy February 27, 2009 1:26 PM PST
This won't allow a Windows installation. The processor isn't x86, but ARM, which means there isn't a distribution of Windows that will install onto the device.
by carlhage February 24, 2009 1:53 PM PST
A green always-on home PC is the right idea, but if you ask me this is the wrong product. It should be an upgrade to Roland's Lynksys (7W but could be <1W most of the time, and .1W when no computer is connected). Thus it should act as a WiFi host and 4 port router, perhaps with power-save mode to shut off parts when not in use. It should also have a video adapter (also powered down when not in use) and extra USB so a screen can be connected without having to power up another computer. It could have instant-on email and web via the linux, or connect to another computer via remote desktop or VGA port where the device acts like a keyboard/screen switch. Make the device in a power strip, and it could physically switch off power of a desktop machine and monitor (or powered USB drives). I agree, that it's silly to make it a wall wart-- just add a power cord.

The device as designed really only replaces attached storage, sort of, that most people don't use. But the constant power draw of routers, modems, and always-on PCs (for quick email/www) is an opportunity to eliminate wasted power.
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by marklfarkl February 24, 2009 2:40 PM PST
Almost there! I just purchase a Netbook for $299 that takes care of some of the things this device could do instead (Caller ID broadcast and file server for my media center PC). I am surprised that it does not have Wi-Fi(802.11n) built in since that would enable users to plug it in virtually anywhere in the house!
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by someguy2009 February 24, 2009 6:20 PM PST
"It seems that the only way to interact with it is via a Web browser."

How is that in any way shape or form accurate? It has a host USB port, a client USB port and an Ethernet port. How can you get a job at CNET and know so little about technology? Obviously if it has an Ethernet port you can probably interact with it using any amount of network services, and if it has a USB mini port you can obviously connect it directly to your computer... Are CNET's staff so clueless that they think the only thing an Ethernet port is used for is browsing the web? The obvious way to interact with this is through SSH, not the web, I would be surprised if it even had a web interface upon initial install... CNET seriously needs to get its head out of the "web is the internet/network" and "Microsoft is computing" sand and find some writers with actual knowledge of technology, instead of meaningless "insights" that are completely unfounded and inaccurate.
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by brickman5721 February 25, 2009 7:16 AM PST
Okay, let's get our facts straight. A. This device cannot run Windows (except maybe some strange hacked version of Windows Mobile :-) because it has an ARM processor. B. A 1.2 Ghz processor with 512MB of RAM is a pretty substantial amount of resources for an embedded Linux device. That's why people are so excited about this. C. There are many uses for computers that do not require a screen, mouse, and pretty graphical interface, including (but not limited to) serving files, recording video, sharing USB devices (webcams, printers, X10 controllers...), shooting USB-controlled foam missle launchers, authenticating access to other computers, and running intrusion detection software. If you cannot see how these things would be useful or don't know what I'm talking about, this device isn't for you. If you can see and you do know, your keyboard would appreciate it if you would stop drooling all over it now.
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by sam99999999 February 25, 2009 7:36 AM PST
If you want a GUI, just run NX on it.
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by zyxxy February 25, 2009 10:28 AM PST
It can run Windows, both CE and Mobile are targeted at ARM.

Pogoplug is is getting ready to ship an implementation of this that provides access to the attached storage from outside the home through a web service. I find that interesting.

It runs Linux, which means it will run Perl, which means it will support Squeezecenter, consuming very low power. If you don't know what squeezecenter is, never mind, but that is precisely why I have ordered one.

The development kit is very well supplied and has good documentation. They should have posted the order link.

http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp

and

http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/t-sheevaplugdetails.aspx#component

Cheers. This is going to be fun to mess with. If you are just an end user, then ignore it and move along.
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by jlpoole February 25, 2009 1:19 PM PST
I spoke with the a sales representative at GlobalScale Technologies in Anahiem, California (phone: 1-714-632-9239), the company that the link http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-22-sheevaplug-dev-kit.aspx on the Marvel site to buy the Buy Sheevaplug Development Kit resolves to, and learned that the development kit includes the actual SheevaPlug unit so it is a turn-key kit ready to be patched.

They are currently not shipping citing delays by two of their suppliers, they hope to ship at the end of March.
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by pushbx April 28, 2009 2:54 AM PDT
I've had the Sheeva Plug for about 2 weeks now and its working great for me. Keep in mind, this is NOT a desktop computer, it is a headless server. Those that has a NSLU2 are the target market. It runs quick, very low power and I can apt-get just about anything. The things runs the ARM Ubuntu distribution and the repositories are well stocked.

Want to know what I have running? Here's a quick list
apache + mediawiki
ssh
vnc with icewm
firefox
rtorrent
pan
seti@home (no joke, its running right now)
the usual samba/nfs server

I have performance and power usage numbers for those interested

http://computingplugs.com/index.php/SheevaPlug_Performance
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by July 21, 2009 1:43 PM PDT
I ordered my Sheeva plug back in June. Now more than half way through July, I keep getting the run around as to when it's coming. I'm glad to see that someone has gotten on of theirs, or I'd start posting the whole thing as a scam.
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by NIMRA230694 November 9, 2009 9:35 AM PST
looks as if it is not only plug-into-the-wall
alternative cable

http://www.cyrius.com/debian/kirkwood/sheevaplug/gallery.html
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