Is Blu-ray becoming a commodity?--Ask the Editors
Are all Blu-ray players created equal?
"These below-$200 price points are great for sales, but what happens six months from now? Will Blu-ray become a commodity?"--Matthew
Just one year ago, HD DVD was selling tons of $99 players, Blu-ray players cost an unreasonable $400 or more, and we were advising buyers to hold off going Blu because the format wasn't quite ready yet. Now we're already wondering if Blu-ray is a commodity. It's a great illustration of how far the technology has come in just one year.
When a product is referred to as a commodity, that generally means that the differences between brands is so small that buyers treat all brands as essentially the same. For example, many would consider DVD players a commodity, and to a large extent we'd agree--aside from high-end models that offer exceptional DVD playback, most people don't care about the differences between players. That's why we've mostly stopped reviewing them.
If you look at our ratings for standalone Blu-ray players, it's easy to see that we clearly don't think Blu-ray is a commodity yet. Not all players are Profile 2.0 compliant, many don't have onboard decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, operation speed still varies significantly, and quite a few players don't have perfect video quality when outputting a standard 1080p signal. While it's arguable that the average consumer doesn't care about those aspects, we feel it's pretty safe to say buyers will prefer the Panasonic DMP-BD35 to the Insignia NS-BRDVD.
That being said, we generally feel like there's less room for differentiation on Blu-ray than there was on DVD, especially for video quality. Even the "worst" Blu-ray playback looks very good, and the major deficiency that we do see--players incorrectly handling film material when outputting a 1080p at 60 frames per second--has been figured out by brand-name manufacturers. It's only a matter of time before that trickles down to bargain players, and then they'll all have nearly identical image quality. Audio quality is the same story. Using the HDMI output, we don't hear any differences in audio quality between the players.
Manufacturers seem to be aware of this, which may be why we've seen recent Blu-ray players add streaming services, like Netflix and Pandora, to further differentiate themselves. These extra features don't necessarily have anything to do with Blu-ray, but it's a lot easier to justify the cost of a new Blu-ray player if you're also getting access to Netflix. We'd also like to see standalone Blu-ray players add Wi-Fi to the feature set, as most people don't have Ethernet access in their living rooms. (The PS3, of course, already has WiFi.) We're also seeing Blu-ray itself being used as a differentiating feature, such as the handful of Blu-ray HTIBs released in 2008. Don't be surprised to see home theater systems with built-in Blu-ray hitting the $500-and-below price point in 2009, with Blu-ray listed as merely another check mark under features.
In short, it seems unavoidable that standard Blu-ray playback is going to be a commodity in the near future. Manufacturers will try and differentiate the players with additional features, and who knows, maybe they'll even push for new technology like Deep Color or 3D on Blu-ray to keep the profit margins high. The good news for buyers is that it won't be long until they can expect basically any Blu-ray player to offer a consistent user experience.


It seems to me that the movie industry and the Blu-Ray manufacturers think the public are chumps; well-paid, yuppie chumps.
I'll gladly pay the extra $5-10 for that much improvement in quality. By all means, continue to watch your movies in mediocrity - but no need to call me a chump for appreciating the best video format on the market.
Besides, you need to know where to shop. A blu-ray at Best Buy could be $35 and if you look on Amazon the same version would probably be $25 or so.
Now if CD's were 25 bucks and the (Insert Non Existant Format here) Right next to it that played in the CD players was 12 bucks it would be a fair comparison.
http://www.amazon.com/Godfather-Coppola-Restoration-Giftset-Blu-ray/dp/B000NTPDSW/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1230593856&sr=8-1
Looks great too!
(Dr tran refrence)
i can stream HD titles to my xbox360 right now, the selection is small but it will grow, and this will be the model of the future. monthly rental fees for access to huge libraries. the bandwidth and resolution issues will catch up eventually. with few exceptions, i could care less to ever *own* a disk anymore at all.
i could still stream a number of movies at whatever price for exceeding bandwidth for less than the cost of ONE blu ray disk.
You can stream all you want and you still won't own the movie the say as if you bought it on DVD or BlueRay.
The most astounding difference was looking at the VHS and saying to myself, "How the hell did we enjoy this format?" It was if the once beautiful cinematography and visual effects were butchered by the worst surgeon in South America. Comparing the VHS to the newly restored Blu-ray version was a revelation.
VHS was a terrible format when it came to widescreen films. What ass-munch came up with the idea of pan & scan? The man should have been executed.
$5 - $10 per movie is what i need. until Blu-ray drops significantly i can't begin my conversion of my collection just yet...
And here's why. I got a 73" Mits. I got a Klipsch sound system, denon receiver, PS3.
Now why on God's earth would i buy a dvd when i can get the movie in 1080p on a BR disc?
I know i'm not the mainstream consumer that the writer is talking about. Yep, they'll be fine getting dvd's. The problem is having something to watch them on. Flat panels or hd monitors are still being adopted and are not the norm yet. As more go this route, having bought that 1080p set, then they'll naturally look at blu-ray next. If i haven't got a flat panel, then i've no reason to look beyond a dvd.
Keep in mind, consumers know how to buy a disc and put it in. Downloading or streaming movies will take even longer to adopt IMO (keep in mind, you have to view the general consumer as totally ignorant). Not to mention, try finding HD streaming or downloading that is in the same league as 1080p?
Blu-ray will have a limited life, but that is true of any digital format. Streaming and downloading has its place but they're are more constraints...speed of ISP, availability, caps, networking, consumer know how, etc.
I only have a small blu-ray library, but they are 10 of the most popular blu-rays out there, and I paid ~$15 for all but one, which I paid $18 for.
- by cpopken December 29, 2008 10:09 AM PST
- When VHS first came out they were VERY expensive, after they became more popular that Betamax the prices were still about 25-30 dollars. Granted most people just rented them than bought them. VCR's were about $400-600 when we first bought ours in 85. Even in 93 when I was in college the cheapest one I could find was $200. It took a long time for the prices to come down. Most people I know didn't buy movies on VHS, they just rented them and recorded from HBO or Cinemax. That was the advantage that VCR's had over DVD's at the beginning, you could record off of you TV.
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (40 Comments)When DVD's became popular the price differences between VHS was about $15-20. VHS was about $10-12 and DVD's were 25-30. People loved the quality of DVD's and the special features, so they were willing to pay the extra money. It also took a while for rental stores to carry DVD's. When it became mainstream it really took off. People bought 5.1 surround sound systems and wide screen TV's to take advantage of the full potential of the format. Now that HDTV's are becoming more popular people are going to want to take full advantage of their purchase. I have a 55 inch TV and can notice a big difference in DVD and Blu-ray.
Streaming may be the future, but it still is about 5 years off. But when it takes off there will still be a market for discs. People still buy movies even though you can rent them, so I think people will still want to own their favorite movies. Do you want to drag your player over to your friends house to watch a movie? There is enough of a market for both formats to survive. One great new feature they have added is the addition of a separate disc for digital copy. I think it is a great idea that I can own the movie and have a copy I can put on my mp3 player or computer to watch on the go.
Blu-ray will eventually replace DVD's, but for how long remains to be seen. Something new and better may come along.