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December 3, 2008 1:04 PM PST

G1 owner gets hit with $102.85 in roaming charges

by Nicole Lee

T-Mobile G1

T-Mobile G1

(Credit: Corinne Schulze/CNET)

Android Guys has a story today from a T-Mobile G1 owner who got charged for $102.85 in roaming charges--even after he turned off data roaming on his phone. The story goes that he was visiting the U.K., and knowing that he would rack up high data-roaming charges while abroad, he turned off data roaming, data sync, and 3G on the phone (Though he did still use it for calls and texts under an international calling plan).

Turns out, of course, that it didn't work so well. When asked about it, T-Mobile customer service told him that the G1 will always access the Internet when it's on, even when the data roaming features are off (I'm presuming this is because of how closely the phone is integrated with your Google account), and that he should have left the phone at home to avoid the charges.

This seems bizarre; that the phone would continue to ping even when all data capabilities have been turned off. Has anyone else encountered something like this with the G1? Let us know.

Nicole Lee is an associate editor for CNET, covering cell phones, Bluetooth headsets, and all things mobile. She's also pretty geeky--she likes World of Warcraft, comic books, and shiny gadgets. E-mail Nicole.
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by Tedders85 December 3, 2008 1:30 PM PST
pwnd!
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by Delfairen December 3, 2008 1:40 PM PST
And it was still less then the roaming charges with the iPhone/AT&T that people got when those phones/plans came out!!!
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by iwuzbord December 3, 2008 1:41 PM PST
i feel bad for the guy. i dont understand why he should be charged for that.
I also dont think that the T-Mobile employee responded to the issue incorrectly. Telling the man to leave his phone at home was not the best idea.
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by rmb7984 December 3, 2008 2:04 PM PST
I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. If you turn off services that incur roaming charges, then you should not be charged roaming fees. Otherwise, T-Mobile should make it clear that turning off those services will not prevent charges. I also spent some time in europe with my iPhone, used it similarly with an international calling plan with data roaming turned off, and did not incur any roaming fees.
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by stigmattaman December 3, 2008 2:09 PM PST
Well, how else will google spy on you ...
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by tmog1guy December 3, 2008 2:48 PM PST
o crap i didn't know that there are data roaming charges. nobody ever told me about that...
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by neocx December 3, 2008 6:33 PM PST
There is an easy solution. Disable data access on your G1 (I don't mean turn off Data Roaming).

1. Use Anycut to create a shortcut to "Testing"
2. Click on Testing.
3. Click on Phone Information
4. Hit Menu button
5. Click on More
6. Click on Disable data connection

This turns off the network access. Note that GPRS service now switches to "disconnected".
Now you should have a phone that does voice calls, but no data access.

Turning off Data Roaming doesn't work because sometimes your G1 thinks it is on your T-mo home network when it is not (i.e., it thinks it's not roaming, but it is).
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by hortnut December 4, 2008 1:38 AM PST
***? Another reason to not be an early adopter! Sorry for the dude, it sounds like he did everything that a prudent person would do.

If that is really the response of T-Mobile, shame on them.

Glad this showed up on DSLreports.com as a headline and hope it gets more exposure in other venues.

And one more reason I will pick and choose what services I use from Google. I think it is dangerous to put all of ones eggs in one basket. And then not know how they may be used or misused.
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by neocx December 4, 2008 10:29 AM PST
Here is what seems to be the problem. It would explain why some users report this problem and some don't. Yes, the G1 pings the net regularly. If you are in a foreign country that also has a T-Mobile network, your G1 thinks it is on its home network. For example, my home net is T-Mobile USA and I am roaming on T-Mobile UK. Because they are both T-Mobile, my phone thinks it is at home, so checking the "no data roaming" option has no effect; the G1 doesn't know its roaming. Unfortunately, T-Mobile does know that and charges you accordingly. Just disable the data connection as described above, it should prevent this.
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by Toluduro April 25, 2009 6:00 AM PDT
HELP!!! I just renewed my contract with t-mobile and I got a G1 phone. I was in Canada for 4 days and I didn't use my phone to make calls or receive calls while in canada but I used the internet services on the phone, I thot my unlimited messaging plan will cover that but shockingly I came in 2 days ago and got a call from t-mobile that I have been charged $1,202.00 for roaming. Now they've cut off my phone services. There was no prior information about this usage from t-mobile when I got to canada , not even a warning. If I had prior notification of this I would have used my laptop with the wireless services on the campus I stayed. HOW DO I GET OUT OF THIS MESS PLS?
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by Sam8rown June 13, 2009 4:20 AM PDT
I'm having a similar problem with my brand-new G1. I just bought it in Berlin on a Pay-As-You-Go plan, starting with the minimal 10 Euros loaded onto the sim card. It's less than 2 hours later and I've already spent 3+ euros without ever having placed a call or done more than sent a single one line eMail. The credit on the account just seems to be leaking away. At the current rate, it would cost $5,000/yr just to keep the phone powered on.
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