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November 7, 2008 4:12 PM PST

Microsoft stops selling Windows 3.x

by Dong Ngo

You will be missed.

My friends often show concern about being obsolete when I tell them to stay with Windows XP and skip Windows Vista entirely. Little do they know, a lot of people are still actually using Windows 3.x. And for those, I have some bad news.

According to BBC, Microsoft finally decided to stop selling licenses of Windows 3.x, starting this month.

The third major release of Windows first came out in May 1990 with a few minor releases in the early 1990s. It was Microsoft's first big success with operating systems that have graphical user interfaces.

Windows 3.x is actually just a software application that runs in MS-DOS environment. However, thanks to its rich graphics and the ability to multitask, it completely changed the way people interact with computers.

Microsoft stopped its support for Windows 3.x at the end of 2001 but left it as an embedded operating system until now.

I personally have a lot of good memories of Windows 3.11 on my 386 computer and really enjoyed its ability to display 256 colors on a 1,024x768 screen resolution.

While this is rather sad news, considering that it is a 16-bit operating system that can address just a little more than 640KB of RAM and is definitely not secure enough for the Internet, it's probably time for you to upgrade.

Dong Ngo is a CNET editor who covers networking and network storage, and writes about anything else he finds interesting. You can also listen to his podcast at insidecnetlabs.cnet.com. E-mail Dong.
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by Xanthus179 November 7, 2008 7:08 PM PST
Man, can this week get any worse?
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by make_or_break November 8, 2008 10:12 AM PST
My questions is...who was actually BUYING 3.x for MSFT to keep this around for so long? It's not like there's a lot of Pentium-centric hardware being made these days, let alone 286 and 386 stuff that 3.x was intended for.
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by Renegade Knight November 10, 2008 9:00 AM PST
A long time ago there was a chip called the Z80. Great little chip. Computers passed it by, but demand kept it in production for a long time. It's great at what it does. You need a cheap processor to run your calculater, toaster, TV or whatever? No need for the lastest 1000.00 chip from Intel. Use the Z80.

Ditto old operating systems. There are newer and better, but when all you need is KISS for an embeded application like controlling the menu on your cheap throw away MP3 player. It's good stuff.
by ScaryMonkey69 November 10, 2008 4:28 AM PST
Man, I have fond memories of 3.1. Gonna miss it and NOT gonna miss it.
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by cabrillo24 November 10, 2008 4:36 AM PST
A lot of government operational programs use 3.1 because of its low hardware demand, and use it as stand alone systems. Also because the system is a stand alone, non-intensive, not connected to the internet and is a very stable system because it serves 1 role, it makes it very appealing. Anyone using this system for personal use, needs to get out of the 90's.
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by haub123 November 10, 2008 6:28 AM PST
i think that airlines use it for their entertainment systems. I was on a delta flight and they had to reboot and I was suprised to see linux boot up, but other airlines like Virgin (i think) use 3.1
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by emunews November 10, 2008 6:45 AM PST
Damn, how am I supposed to upgrade now?
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by Renegade Knight November 10, 2008 9:01 AM PST
You don't upgrade at all. That's the point.
by Eric Mason November 10, 2008 10:26 AM PST
Ever heard of sarcasm Renegade?
by anonnyc November 10, 2008 8:23 AM PST
"...thanks to its rich graphics and the ability to multitask, it completely changed the way users interact with computers."

Pardon me, but shouldn't that be attributed to Apple computers? Microsoft pretty much copied Apple's OS (yes, I know about Xerox). Do you assert that Microsoft changed user interaction based on the number of users they were able to reach vs. Apple, or is that based on the product itself? Windows 3.x was a slow, buggy, unattractive mess, and Mac users laughed at how all those MS-DOS users reveled in the "new" concept of a GUI that had already been in use for years. Indeed, Microsoft had the more effective business plan...
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by Renegade Knight November 10, 2008 9:04 AM PST
Nope. Like you said. Xerox for figuring it out. MicroSoft for making it mainstream. Apple neither figured it out nor made it mainstream. Think of apple as the catalist. Their existance made it happen faster.
by craig.knapp1 November 10, 2008 8:33 AM PST
Ah...the good old days, when we had DOS 6.22, and Word Perfect 6.0 for DOS which could actually follow the paragraph and sub-paragraph numbering conventions of the typist (circa @1995, and something MS Office 2007 still cannot do), PC Tools V7 which had a dual-pane viewer when we had only a C: Drive and an A: drive (interesting that no OS natively offers a dual-pane viewer now that we all have digital camera cards, digital camcorder hard drives and a gazillion USB external drives to download data from/to). Companies who published programs like Harvard Graphics 3.0 for DOS, Ashton Tate's dbase v4.0 for DOS were still around.

We used programs such as a Packard Bell GUI to run our DOS programs or boot into Windows 3.0 or 3.11, we edited and saved variations of autoexec.bat and config.com to run certain games such as Jet Figher 2 and 3, Falcon 3, etc, because each one addressed the limited 640K of RAM differently or had different IRQ requirements to make the audio work, we created *.bat files and used boot.com to recall these various *.bat and *.com files which then automatically re-booted the computer and launched our favorite game, then when we exited the game thanks to the *.bat file WE created, the computer restored itself back to a "normal" state and rebooted.....just remembered, you could run Privateer 2 The Darkening on a 640K system which had video of real actors back in the mid 1990s.

Back then WE knew how to run our computers, now, when someone tells me they lost a file and I ask them where they store their files...all I usually get is a blank stare.

Craig Knapp
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by Renegade Knight November 10, 2008 9:05 AM PST
"now, when someone tells me they lost a file and I ask them where they store their files...all I usually get is a blank stare."

True that.
by craig.knapp1 November 10, 2008 8:36 AM PST
Oh, I forgot to mention that if you give your product away for free to "hook" the customer we call them a drug dealer, but if it involves software you call it Microsoft.

Correction to previous post...config.sys not config.com files.

Craig Knapp
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by Renegade Knight November 10, 2008 9:07 AM PST
If the cost of selling (and not supporting) Win 3.11 exceeds the cost of printing out new disks...this was a wise decision. If not, MS is leaving money on the table. Of course a lot of things use embedded Linux so they don't have to pay for the trivial sum that Win 3.11 must have been commanding.
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by blppt November 10, 2008 1:21 PM PST
Maybe I'm reading this wrong...

"While this is rather sad news, considering that it is a 16-bit operating system that can address just a little more than 640KB of RAM and is definitely not secure enough for the Internet, it's probably time for you to upgrade. "

...but Win3x can definitely address more that a "little more than 640KB of RAM". It runs in a pseudo-16bit protected mode (386 Enhanced) and definitely address at least 16MB of RAM, even as high as 64MB, but I've heard of people having problems when going beyond 16MB, or running apps that need more than that for themselves...
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by Visualdude November 10, 2008 2:57 PM PST
I think the key words for who was using it are "embedded" and "license". MS was not likely even producing paper for selling it. I wonder if NT 3.51 embedded is still for sale.

The memory statement caught my eye too. My first PC had 1Mb and I eventually spent the $500 bucks to bring it up to 4Mb. My processor was a AMD 386DX. I think I still have the CPU kicking around in a box someplace. FYI on the memory. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126746/en-us
I also think that WFW was more than a application, even if DOS was underneath it. Would you call a VM instance an application? The fact that it ran as an application was great though. In the early days we ran a shared Windows 3.1 environment on our Novell network. Talk about your thin client. We booted by floppy and the Novell login script would change to the user directory and launch win.exe.
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