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October 3, 2008 9:13 AM PDT

Panasonic's THX plasma goes large, gets Editors' Choice

by David Katzmaier
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Panasonic's TH-58PZ800U, a 58-inch THX-certified plasma, earned our Editors' Choice award.

(Credit: CNET)

Earlier this year we awarded the 50-inch Panasonic TH-50PZ800U our Editors' Choice among 50-inch plasma TVs, and now that we've reviewed the newly released 58-inch version, it predictably gets a similar review, with an identical score and Editors' Choice award. Part of the reason has to do with its color accuracy, for which the TV's THX Display Certification deserves credit.

The bigger Panasonic still didn't perform as well as our new reference standard, the Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-111FD--which we assume will perform as well, in turn, as the 60-inch Elite PRO-151FD--but those Elite models are just too expensive to earn our Editors' Choice. The 50-inch Elite, for example, costs more than the 58-inch Panasonic, and the 60-inch Elite is off the charts.

If you're shopping for a massive-screen plasma, the other high-end option is the 60-inch non-Elite Pioneer, model PDP-6020FD. Too bad it's significantly more expensive than the 58-inch Panasonic itself, and judging from our review of the 50-inch version, its color accuracy is a big issue. Couple that with the fact that, according to our observations, the 58-inch Panasonic delivered even deeper black levels than the 50-inch model, we feel the EC and higher rating compared with the non-Elite Pioneer is justified, again.

For folks just looking for a massive screen, regardless of form factor, it's still difficult to justify the higher cost of plasma over rear-projection. Our current rear-projection EC is the 61-inch Samsung HL61A750, a superb-performing LED-based DLP model that can't quite match the overall picture quality of any of those plasmas, but costs a dark sight less.

What's your take? Let us know in the comments section.

read the full review of the Panasonic Viera TH-58PZ800U.

Below you'll find the settings we found best for viewing the Panasonic TH-58PZ800U in a completely dark room via the HDMI input with a 1080p, film-based source. Your settings may very depending on source, room conditions, and personal preference. Check out the picture settings and calibration FAQ for more information.

Picture menu
Picture mode: THX
Picture: +100
Brightness: +55
Color: +56
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0
Color temp: Warm
Color mgmt: Off
x.v.Color: [grayed out]
C.A.T.S.: Off

Advanced picture menu Video N.R.: Off
3D Y/C filter: [grayed out]
Color matrix: [grayed out]
MPEG NR: Off
Black level: Light
24p Direct in: 60Hz
HD size: Size 2

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David Katzmaier reviews HDTVs for CNET. E-mail David or follow him on Twitter @katzmaiercnet.
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by hafenbrack October 3, 2008 10:11 AM PDT
Personally I own one of the Samsung LED DLP's. It was the best looking picture out there, the LOWEST bost by far and since I was replacing a tub TV I had plenty of room for the 13" of depth.
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by drmatt87 October 4, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
Where were u looking if the Samsung 61' DLP LED had the best picture? Minus the Off angle viewing and the Sub-Par Black Levels... Best Picture for the money Has to be the Panasonic and if not Plasma then the Samsung 850 LCD!
by kuzma77 October 3, 2008 1:56 PM PDT
I'm still awaiting the review of its big brother, the TH-65PZ850U. That is what's on my Christmas list!
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by katzmaier October 7, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
FYI, you'll probably have to wait indefinitely. I have no plans to review that set. But feel free to check out the review of the 50-inch TH-50PZ850U.
by FUBAR16 October 3, 2008 4:59 PM PDT
How is it that people are still buying projection these days? I don't get it. Maybe 3 years ago, but now, plasmas and LCD's are dirt cheap, even the top tier brands.
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by dletforever October 3, 2008 7:58 PM PDT
The projection lcd's and dlp's have the fastest refresh rate times (2.5ms). I bought Sony's last production projection lcd just because of the refresh rate. I really dislike the size but I love the picture.
by rando1017 October 4, 2008 9:47 PM PDT
Well, I'll tell you why FUBAR. My 60" Sony SXRD cost me $1699. 1080p, 120hz, and a superior picture quality to any LCD or plasma I've seen. Where can I I get a 60" flat panel for that price? And the footprint is only about an inch deeper than a same sized plasma on a stand. Just makes good sense if you ask me.
by Wes#1 October 10, 2008 6:01 AM PDT
SCREEN SIZE!! ...or bang for the buck, as they say. Try to find a flat panel LCD or plasma at 60" (or greater), then tell me the price. It will be nowhere near the $1800 I paid for my LCD projection set.
by WhazzupTech October 3, 2008 8:31 PM PDT
I don't need a SUPER nice tv like Pioneer, but I don't really like Panasonic. However when it comes to 60+ inch PDP screens there really aren't many reports. And there are many reports on Panasonic screens but not enough on Samsung. On the other hand, of the Samsung screens that I have seen I really like. And yet there aren't many reports on Samsung PDP TVs.

So I'm wondering what do people out there think of Samsung PDP vs Panasonic PDP?
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by docfilm October 4, 2008 10:14 PM PDT
I think you have a typo in your reporting. You mistakenly reported the Samsung HL61A650 is the the LED model. The new LED DLP by Samsung is HL61A750, NOT - HL61A650. The A650 series is still bulb based and NOT LED. By the way I have the new Sammy's LED HL61A750 and love it.
Initially I had to get over the viewing angle issues with rear projection, but now I'm used to it. Otherwise, picture quality is excellent.
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by katzmaier October 6, 2008 8:14 AM PDT
Thanks for the catch...corrected now.

Katz
by larrfry October 7, 2008 8:16 AM PDT
I own this HDTV and love it.

I use the THX settings for movies (with the picture setting increased to 95%, brightness at 62, color 50, and tint at -8, sharpness at 50).

I've also created a custom setting which has more pop which I use for regular TV shows that were never intended to be shown in a theatre (Custom settings - picture 85, brightness 50, color 34, tint -7, sharpness 50)

It is important to note that, for example, a brightness setting of 50 in THX mode is VERY DIFFERENT from a brightness setting of 50 in Custom mode. Same is true for most other settings.

I believe there is an error in the setup shown by CNET regarding sharpness. It is listed as 0 when I believe they meant 50 (half way between 0 and 100)
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by katzmaier October 7, 2008 2:47 PM PDT
Nope, zero is correct.

-- Katz
by amp2777 November 6, 2008 2:22 PM PST
hi David/CNet, a quick question..

I am looking to buy this TV. However, I have read comments that this display, esp THX mode is too dim for normal TV shows with fairly lighted room. Is that what you found as well? Are there any other modes that could help? I don't other modes discussed in the review.

Thanks
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by larrfry December 10, 2008 8:52 AM PST
Could you explain what happens if you use a sharpness setting above zero on the Panasonic Plasma TH-58PZ800U???

I'd really appreciate some clarification.

Thank you so much for your thoughtful reviews!!!
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by NickSMU17 February 16, 2009 8:31 AM PST
When I switch to HD size 2, I get a thin green line on right side of screen, is there anyway to get rid of this, or do I have to watch in size 1
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