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September 18, 2008 9:08 AM PDT

HD channel-counts compared: Fios TV ascendant

by David Katzmaier
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(Credit: Verizon)

We just finished a major update of our popular chart of HD programming compared and the new winner, in terms of national and local HD channels, by our count, is Fios TV. Bringing a hefty 83 such channels to bear in the New York City area, the fiber-optic-based TV service from Verizon comes out ahead of perennial satellite champions DirecTV (67 channels) and Dish Network (68) as of today.

The key here is our definition of "national and local." The big three all tout HD channel counts near or above the nice round number of 100 in their advertising campaigns, and by our count of "total channels," they all come more or less close enough, but we took a closer look at the channels themselves, and broke down national and local channels we consider important. That includes local broadcast channels like PBS (which neither satellite service offers), ABC and Fox, premium movie channels like HBO and Max (formerly Cinemax), and the myriad niche channels from ESPN to Mav TV to Palladia to World Fishing Network. We specifically exclude Regional Sports Networks, exclusive channels like Voom (which is only available on NY-area provider Cablevision), and duplicate feeds of premium movie channels, such as HBO (east) and HBO (west) carried by DirecTV and Fios.

Check out the updated HD programming compared chart.

Feel free to argue with our methods in the comments section below, but the goal is to even the playing field and call the various providers on their inflationary channel accounting. It's also sadly true that many so-called HD networks don't actually carry much HD content--but they have the potential to, and will probably carry more actual high-def going forward.

Our chart is necessarily local. We compare the HD channel lineups available near the CNET New York offices from the aforementioned big three, along with cable providers Cablevision (Long Island), Comcast (New Jersey) and Time Warner Cable (Brooklyn and Queens). That leads to some important points.

First off, your local cable service will likely have different HD channel lineups--in the case of TWC and Cablevision, you're likely to have fewer HD channels than we enjoy in the NYC area. Right now CNET just doesn't have the resources to collate all of the cable services nationwide for comparison in a big chart.

Second, availability is local-within-local. Just because Fios is available, according to the Web site, in the Manhattan zip code of 10013, doesn't mean you can actually get it in your building. The build-out and availability of Fios will take years in New York City, as it has in other parts of the country. The same goes for satellite, of course; many buildings don't allow dishes, for example. Also, perhaps because Fios is available in Queens and Brooklyn more widely, Time Warner Cable offers more HD channels in those boroughs than in Manhattan, so we used the TWC channel count for Brooklyn and Queens, not Manhattan.

That's a lot of caveats, but at the end of the day, we still think it's valuable to provide a snapshot of the true state of the HD channel-quantity race as it stands today. Expect more updates to the chart as the providers roll out additional channels in the coming months. Thanks to Matthew Panton for heavy lifting on the chart updates.

Note: CNET is a wholly owned subsidiary of CBS.

What do you think? Do stratospheric HD channel counts matter to you, or are 50-odd HD channels enough? Is your cable provider delivering enough high-def, or are you considering a switch to satellite or Fios TV?

David Katzmaier reviews HDTVs for CNET. E-mail David or follow him on Twitter @katzmaiercnet.
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by September 18, 2008 5:16 PM PDT
Very informative. Not only did I learn how much better Fios is, I learned that Time Warner is screwing Manhattan residents, of which I am one. I had no idea that the other boroughs got so many more channels.

Gotta love monopolies. I can't get the channels that other TW subscribers get, I can't get Fios in my building, I can't attach a dish to my apartment, Comcast is even worse with HD, and Cablevision has its own problems.
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by davidaduran September 18, 2008 8:06 PM PDT
this count is not accurate....I am in the Dallas area and i counted...we only have 39 HD channels....I would put a big asterik by the channel count
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by katzmaier September 19, 2008 7:40 AM PDT
Hi david,

As mentioned in the article, the counts refer to services local to New York City. We can't take into account every locality, and it seems that Fios and cable services increase or decrease HD channel counts for compeditive reasons on a region-by-region basis.
by katzmaier September 19, 2008 7:43 AM PDT
david,

It's mentioned in the article and on the chart that the channel counts are local to NYC, but per your observation I also dropped a mention of NYC-specificity in the lead.
by damaludj September 19, 2008 5:31 PM PDT
don't worry, dallas will have an almost identical fios tv lineup that nyc enjoys. I came across this last week on the verizon website: http://www22.verizon.com/NROneRetail/NR/rdonlyres/4B259B76-5642-421A-B832-2F9AEFAE6C45/0/NTX_PF2.pdf
by Karridog September 19, 2008 4:04 PM PDT
I'm a patriotic American. Why should I give Verizon one penny after they secretly spied on American citizens? Verizon is nothing more than a fascist corporation. Then Congress exempted them from any liability and that was done retroactively. Do you know of any American citizen that was exempted from any liability retroactively? I don't think so.
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by damaludj September 19, 2008 5:37 PM PDT
woah calm down, verizon wasn't the only one. All major telcos such as ATT were a part of this. And don't blame the telcos, blame the government for lying to them and telling them that what they were doing was legal. The reason congress exempted them was because they showed proof of the government telling the companies that what they were being asked to do was perfectly legal.
by pnanninga September 26, 2008 8:44 AM PDT
why do you claim that DISH and DTV offer all these RSNs but FiOS doesn't? I live in So Cal and get Fox Sports West and Fox Sports Prime Ticket and both are in HD yet there is no dot next to those 2 stations on your chart... Its not like NY residents are actually able to view those channels...
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