The end of expensive gaming laptops?
Gateway's P-7811FX.
We've just crowned Gateway's P-7811FX the favorite $1,000-plus system in our Back-to-School roundup of laptops available on retail store shelves. Its particularly strong showing reminds us that every once in a while, a new product comes along that forces you to reconsider the conventional wisdom about what computer hardware should cost. (A prime example being how the new netbook category has redefined small, low-power laptops from $2,000-plus executive toys to sub-$500 impulse purchases.)
PC gaming, despite the lack of action on the software side lately, has been the one reliable area where manufacturers could get away with charging premium prices for premium products. Gaming rigs easily hit the $5,000 mark, but were stuffed with high-end components that delivered unbeatable performance.
Earlier this year, we saw a few 17-inch gaming laptops that managed to offer a decent gaming experience for a lot less than we'd been used to paying. Gateway's 6860FX and the 6831FX both included the then-new Nvidia GeForce 8800 graphics card for around $1,350 -- which we found more than a little mind-blowing at the time. Of course, there were some serious compromises to be made. The older CPUs in those systems were far from high-end, and even the 17-inch displays were cheap -- using a lower 1,440x900 resolution.
We expected more of the same from the latest budget Gateway gaming laptop, the $1,449 P-7811FX, which was just released (and reviewed) this month. Instead, we found that most of our issues with the previous models in the series had been fixed.
Besides sporting a new Nvidia GeForce 9800 graphic card, the processor has been upgraded up to a Centrino 2 Intel Core 2 Duo P8400--not the very top of the line, but close, and more importantly, the screen resolution has been bumped up to 1,920x1,200. Taken as a whole, that makes this new Gateway an excellent value for even high-end PC gamers (it pumped out around 60 frames per second in Unreal Tournament III at 1,920x1,200).
This leads us to wonder if there's room for high-end expensive gaming laptops any more. Are marginal increases in frame rates worth paying three or four times as much?
The only system we've looked at recently that comes close as a gaming rig is one we're testing right now. The new Alienware m17x, at well north of $5,000, pulls out all the stops, going for twin GeForce 9800 cards, the very top-of-the-line Intel Core 2 Extreme X9000 CPU, and two 500GB hard drives. But beyond that, you're mostly paying for extras such as a light-up keyboard and fancy flush touchpad.
To be fair, the Alienware m17x topped 100 frames per second in the same test, and also beat the Gateway (and everyone else) in our other benchmark tests (but not by a huge margin). But can most gamers tell the difference between 60fps and 100fps at 1,920x1,200 resolutions? Do they even care? Or are specialty gaming laptops doomed to become rare, ultra-expensive status symbols, produced in extremely limited numbers?
New York native Dan Ackerman, a former radio DJ turned journalist, has written about technology and music for publications including Spin, Blender, The Hollywood Reporter, and USA Today. He hosts the weekly Digital City podcast and the New York edition of Editors' Office Hours. Dan's new album, Tales Out of Night School, is available now. E-mail Dan. 

Nvidia needs to come clean and fully detail all the GPU's and production dates of the defective units!
Nvidia needs to come clean and fully detail all the GPU's and production dates of the defective units!
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Take a look at the 17" Asus (who?) gaming machne for just over $1500. Asus makes all those Apple powerbooks you just love.....
Now, (my biase for Dan acknowledged), I couldn't agree more with the focus point of this article. In lieu of the revolution PC hardware has experienced over the last 24-36 months, the reduction of the "uber-rig" to a "lesser machine & more palatable price point" is an inevitable evolution. We've seen (warning: understatement ahead) considerable gaines and developments in PC hardware, and its mode-naturale at this point to see the price of gaming hardware become more elastic to the consumer.
Long story short: 60fps versus 100fps doesn't warrant a 400% increase in gaming rig premium. Uber-rig doesn't equate to ferrari any more; but it DOES equates to expensive, quick depreciation and being upside down in less than 12 months.
- by Fil0403 September 10, 2008 7:08 PM PDT
- IMHO the HP Pavilion dv7 (which I got for around $1,600) is better. It only (slightly) loses to this one in graphics, RAM, and resolution (Nvidia GeForce 9800 vs. Nvidia GeForce 9600M GT - marginal difference IMHO -, DDR3 vs. DDR2 - marginal difference IMHO, specially being a laptop -, 1,920 x 1,200 vs. 1,440 x 990 - more than enough if you ask me). All the rest:
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- by Fil0403 September 10, 2008 7:10 PM PDT
- Forgot to mention yet another advantage of the HP over the Gateway (IMHO): the brand (I find HP and their products more reliable than Gateway and their products, not to talk about support).
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- by midu22 November 8, 2008 6:33 PM PST
- You cannot be serious... marginal difference? The 9800M GTS is for hardcore gamers, and the 9600M GT is not. The difference is huge; ask anyone who has tried them both. Seriously, the dv7 should not be considered by a serious gamer; only by those who want to pretend that a joke of a video card only makes a "marginal difference."
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(15 Comments)- better CPU (P8400 2.26 GHz 3 MB L2 cache vs. P9400 2.53 GHz 6 MB L2 cache);
- better built (plastic vs. liquid metal);
- better warranty (1 year vs. 2 years);
- more hard-disk capacity (200 GB vs. 2 x 250 GB);
- more USB ports (3 vs. 4);
- Blu-Ray;
- Bluetooth;
- DriverGuard (stops spinning hard-drives in case of sudden movement, such as fall);
- fingerprint reader;
- integrated triple-bass subwoofer;
- remote control.
IMHO all this makes it better (value).
2 last comments:
1) "lower 1,440 x 900 resolution"? I know computer enthusiasts who use this resolution in 19" screens and find it enough, on a 17" fits perfectly and is more than enough IMHO (more than that, icons and letters get ridiculously too small and it gets simply unworkable IMHO);
2) in the text you (correctly) state that the P8400 is not the very top of the line, yet in the "The good" and in the video review it is refered to as a "high-end" CPU. Let's make it clear: P8400 is *not* high-end (P9400 is, although there are even faster ones).
With its 128bit memory bus, the 9600M GT cannot utilize all of the 512MB of RAM available to it LOL. With half the pixel shaders of the 9800M GTS as well as other less attractive specs, the 9600M GT is clearly not a video card for serious gamers. You are not going to be able to run as many games at max setting at 1920x1200. Look on any laptop forum; the 9600M GT is nowhere near as good as the 9800M GTS. Not even close.
The P8400 and all Centrino 2 process ARE high-end; the difference in clock speed between the P8400 and the other Centrino 2s will have negligible effects on gaming. Older Centrino processors are not high end... Just because a processor isn't the fastest and most power hungry available does not mean it isn't high end. The P8400 draws an incredibly low amount of power (25W), making it one of the top choices for folks like me.