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August 21, 2008 1:14 PM PDT

PS3 Blu-ray settings: Ask the Editors

by David Katzmaier
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The Sony PlayStation 3 has a lot of settings that pertain to Blu-ray playback.

(Credit: CNET)

I had a question regarding hooking up my PS3 to my Panasonic TH-50PZ800U HDTV. I want to use my PS3 as a Blu-ray player for my TV. Would you be able to tell me the best settings/configuration for watching Blu-ray movies? Thanks. -- Khurshid, via e-mail

Well, Khurshid, it's no secret that the PlayStation 3 is the best Blu-ray player-- it's the reference Blu-ray player we use here at CNET, and we're not the only ones. To get the most out of your PS3 as a Blu-ray player, however, you'll need to get the settings right. What follows are the settings we use for our reference PS3 units here at CNET for testing HDTVs, including your Panasonic. The two menus referenced below can be found under the main Settings menu.

BD/DVD menu:

  • Cinema Conversion: Automatic
    This setting affects how the player deals with film- and video-based standard-def material originating on DVD and Blu-ray. Automatic works well to differentiate between the two.

  • Upscale: Normal
    This setting fills the screen properly when dealing with standard-def content converted to high-def by the PS3.

  • BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI): Automatic
    This setting affects the color space output via the PS3. RGB is best for video games, which use the same color spce as computers, while Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr is best for video, including DVD and Blu-ray discs. Auto usually works to detect the source properly, so we recommend most people stick with this setting. If you experience discoloration or other issues, try another setting.

  • BD 1080p 24Hz output (HDMI): Off (for most HDTVs)
    Most Blu-ray discs are encoded at 1080p/24 natively, which means they have 1,920x1,080 pixels per frame delivered at 24 frames per second, the native film rate. Many HDTVs cannot accept 1080p/24, however, and many more can but don't get any benefit from this setting, and can look choppy or otherwise incorrect. Unless your TV is designed to accept 1080p/24 signals--this includes most LCD models with 120Hz processing, as well as select plasmas with different refresh rates--you should leave this setting turned off. For HDTVs that can accept 1080p/24, however, you might notice a benefit leaving it on; check out our 1080p/24 explainer for more info (Khurshid, for your 800U, we recommend choosing Off and ignoring Panasonic's 48Hz mode, which introduces unwelcome flicker). We also recommend avoiding Auto, because it can sometimes mistakenly output an incorrect format.

    Display Settings menu:

  • Video Output Settings: [check all that apply]
    This setting controls the resolution(s) output by the PS3. You should select all of the resolutions with which your TV is compatible. If you have a TV that can accept 1080p signals, you should select all of the check boxes. On HDTVs that cannot accept 1080p, you should check off every resolution except 1080p. The only exception is if you know your TV looks much better with 720p sources than 1080i. If that's the case, we recommend you leave 1080i unchecked as well.

  • Cross Color Reduction Filter: Off
    This setting only applies to S-Video and composite-video output, not HDMI.

  • RGB Full Range (HDMI): Limited
    This setting controls the range of information output via HDMI. Contrary to what you might think, this setting is best left on Limited for video-based material like Blu-ray and DVD for the majority of HDMI televisions. Some newer HDTVs can receive a slight benefit from Full if calibrated properly, but in general Limited is the best choice, and we use it in the lab to ensure compatibility of the reference player with all displays.

  • Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White (HDMI): On
    This setting controls whether the PS3 will pass blacker-than-black and whiter-than-white parts of the video signal. It's really only useful during calibration, which is why we leave it turned on. Many discs don't contain material in above white or below black.

    Want more information on PS3 settings, particularly those that pertain to audio? Head on over to this excellent thread on AVS forum where every setting is explained accurately and clearly. You may also find the need to consult the PS3 manual. And if you want recommended picture setting for your HDTV, check out our FAQ.

    What do you think? Do you agree with these settings or do you prefer others, such as RGB Full Range: Full? Are you happy with your PS3's Blu-ray playback in general? Let us know in comments.

  • David Katzmaier reviews HDTVs for CNET. E-mail David or follow him on Twitter @katzmaiercnet.
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    by tafiliyabani August 21, 2008 6:40 PM PDT
    i have a samsung LCD TV the six series. It shoud support 1080p. But when I check the box of 1080 p in the display setting it did not work? Can you tell me why? Can you please tell me the best setting for the Apple tV?
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    by Carlox1 August 22, 2008 10:03 AM PDT
    i had the same problem, but i fix it, te problem was that mi hdmi cable was 720p, 1080i, i thought all hdmi cables were the same but no, so i bought a hdmi cable that support 1080p, i recommend you to buy the hdmi v1.3 1080p, may be this is your problem, thats why your ps3 cant let you select 1080p because your hdmi cable doesnt support 1080p
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    by pnmondal August 22, 2008 3:06 PM PDT
    In Summary - the suggestion about 24Hz output is poor advice and if you follow it blindly, you may miss out on a very nice feature of the PS3. Details below.

    I take major exception with the generalization that one should just roll over and turn off 24Hz output for blu-ray off. That's like saying "there's a twenty to twenty-five percent chance you have just inherited a mint condition Ferrari like the one from Ferris Bueller/Magnum PI/Miami Vice/whichever one you would love to have, but it will take five minutes of easy work to find. And those five minutes out of your life just isn?t worth it to spend on this task. Besides, you might not even like the Ferrari if you actually had it.? OK, so it?s not as grand as getting a free Ferrari, but if your TV supports 24Hz output, it?s one of the better features of the PS3 and of big screen movies in general. The slower frame rate is what creates the dreamlike effect in the movies, and if your TV supports it, it?s great to have and it doesn?t take much work to find out. You can either look it up on the internet, or you can just turn your system on, pop in a high quality well mastered blu-ray that is encoded in the native 24Hz rate that movies are generally shot in, and see if you get that movie like effect. If you do, then great, leave it turned on. If you don?t and there is a visible degradation in quality, well turn it off. That wasn?t so hard was it? I realize most people are kind of dumb and can?t tell their head from their posterior, but David, if you treat people as stupid and incapable of figuring out simple things like whether or not their TV supports 24 Hz, you are feeding the growing stupidity of America. A lot of things TV related and technical in nature may be over most people?s head and may not be worth explaining. But some things do provide a tangible reward. 24 Hz output is one of those things that provide a great reward and which is rather easy to see if it works on your particular TV. I have a pretty run of the mill Samsung (LNT4661) that?s a very popular mid grade level TV and which handles 24Hz beautifully. I prefer watching blu-ray movies encoded in 24Hz to anything else on my TV specifically because 24Hz creates that dreamy movie effect that 24Hz was intended to create. 60Hz content is more lifelike, but not as much fun because it lacks the magical quality. When content is only available in 60Hz, like say concert footage, I notice right away because of the generally more clinical nature of the video and wish that the material were in 24Hz instead. Why would you just want to take something so great away from other people when it is so easy to determine whether or not 24Hz works?
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    by katzmaier August 25, 2008 9:28 AM PDT
    Hi pnmondal,

    I appreciate the comment, and if you see a major improvement by in going in at 1080p/24, then by all means keep doing so. But I'm not changing my recommendation.

    Nearly every HDTV refreshes at 60Hz (including your Samsung 61F), so what it comes down to is this: where does the conversion take place, the player or the TV? I have seen no benefit to the conversion taking place in the TV as opposed to the player (which is what happens in your case, with the PS3 outputting 1080p/24 to your 60Hz TV), and according to a Samsung labs manager I asked, there is none. That's why, for the vast majority of HD televisions (most of which cannot even accept 1080p/24), the correct setting is Off.

    -- David
    by mrHiDefinition August 22, 2008 7:24 PM PDT
    I am going to try this set up because I have been noticing that Blu-Ray movies look a little grainy on my Toshiba 1080p HDTV. I'm pretty sure its not the TV and I'm also sure its not the Blu-Ray, so it has to be the settings on the ps3.
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    by ElHalo August 23, 2008 12:22 AM PDT
    OK, PS3 setup experts, how do I fix this fundamental problem: In order to get high-res audio tracks, which the PS3 can't output in bitstream, I have to use multichannel PCM to get the audio to my receiver (old reliable Onkyo SR605). However, setting it up for multi-channel audio output means that my PS3 is _always_ outputting 7.1 channels of audio -- if if the input is a DiVX video with stereo audio that I'd much rather have my receiver matrix into 7.1 channels.

    Of course, the Onkyo can't do that, because it's already receiving 7.1 channels from the PS3, so there's nothing to matrix -- even though 5.1 of those channels happen to consist of dead silence. This infuriates me UNBELIEVABLY, which is why I always find it inexplicable that CNET consistently says there's no benefit to having your Blu-Ray player send DolbyTrueHD in bitstream format. OF COURSE THERE IS! If it sent everything bitstream, then I could have my receiver accept the TrueHD format and decode it, AND the PS3 would send stereo audio bitstream, and the receiver could matrix it... rather than just having the PS3 constantly send 7.1 channels of audio even where there's not a 7.1 channel source, and preventing my receiver from actually, you know, doing its job and using all the speakers.

    Anybody have any suggestions? Other than "change your audio output settings before changing every single media you play on the PS3 so that your receiver gets the proper information to process for that particular source"... the kludgiest solution alive.
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    by jpetrul August 24, 2008 5:41 AM PDT
    thank you so much! i had already played around with it and had most of the settings selected to what you had specified, but the last few selections made a discernable difference. again, thank you CNET!!
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    by MEGA_MAN_X August 25, 2008 3:40 PM PDT
    Katzmaier I want a LCD panel TV for Playing Playstation 3 . I want you to tell me which of these 2 LCDTV is better to buy for playing : Panasonic Viera TC32LX85 or the Samsung LN32A450.I have another question i want you too tell me if there is another LCDTV that cost $800 or less that is better for playing than this to LCDTV models that I tell you .Plese answer my question on my Email because I am going to Buy the LCDTV in these Week
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    by MEGA_MAN_X August 26, 2008 3:52 PM PDT
    David Katzmaier Sorry it was a litle miss understanding in the answer you give me.I want to tell you that I am an intemediant class person and I dont have the money yo buy a TV that have the 1080p/24 to your 60Hz TV)In these week I am going to buy my first LCDHDTV and I only have is $800 dollars and I want you to tell me what of these 2 TV is better for playing PS3 Panasonic Viera TC32LX85 or the Samsung LN32A450.I want you too tell me if there is another LCDTV that cost $800 or less that is better for playing than this to LCDTV models that I tell you .I hope this time you understand
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    by mmiedema August 31, 2008 9:53 AM PDT
    Will the PS3 carry Neural THX audio? Is that more a licence issue or will a future firmware update take care of this?
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    by dnsjo August 31, 2008 5:19 PM PDT
    Someone help me out. I have a Panasonic TH50PZ800U sitting beside a Sony KDL52XBR4 (one's going back to the City). My wife and I both observe on the Sony a phenomenon which I call Movie Set Awareness. It occurs mostly with people indoors, especially in smaller rooms. The image is so 3D apperaing that it shouts that this is a movie set you're seeing. It's like watching a documentary, or where a play has been filmed, or when you watch deleted scenes on a DVD where the normal processing has not been applied. The scenes appear lifelike, but it's distracting. We don't get it on the plasma or any other set I've owned. I can't figure out what causes it, and I can't "adjust" it out. I love the anti-glare screen of the Sony, but the plasma has it whipped.

    Another question I have is about shadow detail, which has been hard to get on either set without paying a price. I can't get good shadow detail on the Sony without washing out the whole picture to some degree. The Panasonic plasma has two settings - dark and light - nothing in between. This is insane in a TV with this kind of price tag.

    I appreciate any help!
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    by mickeytrinh September 14, 2008 9:44 PM PDT
    I had the same issues with Khursid, after reading your advices, I have completed the setup easily, thank you much. Now I have another issue, could any of you please show me how to pair the bluetooth remote for PS3 from SOny, as I bought it , has not paired it with the ps3 yet, then my kids picked up the manual and threw it somewhere, I couldn't find it to follow the instructions. I went to sonystyle, sent my email to get help but had not received any answers it has been over a week already.
    Thank you so much.
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    by sal_42000 September 14, 2008 10:03 PM PDT
    I am using the PS3 as a Blu-ray player for a Pioneer PDP-6010 plasma set. FWIW, an additional area I have found to offer better 1080p performance is by turning the "Upscale" setting to "Off" on 1080p Blu-ray material. This gives a slight but visible increase in fine detail and improved contrast compared to the "Normal" setting.

    This improvement is easily visible in the BBC Blu-ray series "Planet Earth" in the (Disc 1) "Fresh Water" Angel Falls scene. There is more detail of rock surfaces and water droplets and fine detail of vegetation is also improved. Also in the (Disc 1) "From Pole to Pole" episode great white shark scene, this setting shows water droplets striking the water more clearly and with increased three-dimensional rendering. I'm not sure why this would be true, but several comparisons confirmed this to be the case.

    When playing SD material I switch the "Upscale" setting back to "Normal" with very good results.
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    by adamjennings78 November 10, 2008 12:51 PM PST
    OK - here's another issue I've come across:

    I'm trying to play a BD disc via my PS3 on a standard def TV. I've set the display settings accordingly and turned off 1024p/24fps and yet the image still flickers uncontrollably. I also get this when trying to play video content from the harddrive, (although - biazrrely - I never used to!).

    Any suggestions?
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    by ~Smooth~ March 17, 2009 8:53 AM PDT
    Why would you play a BD disc on a standard tv...That is like a fatman buying a pie with a bottle ofwater....
    by June 9, 2009 11:23 AM PDT
    ~Smooth~, I think a more accurate analogy would be the man eating a pie sealed in a plastic bag. Even if adamjennings78 only has an SD TV, at least he won't have to upgrade his collection if he is buying Blu-ray already.
    by clydea1983 August 9, 2009 1:00 PM PDT
    Can somone advise me the following issues. My toshiba regza accepts 1080p signals, but it only displays 720p. in this case is it better to not select 1080i and 1080p on the ps3, so the ps3 would downscale 1080p to 720p and send it to my tv. OR should i leave 1080i/p selected on my ps3 since my tv accepts it and let the ps3 send out the 1080p signal and then let my tv convert it to 720p?? thanks
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    by fesslerl October 2, 2009 6:47 AM PDT
    We have a Sony HD 60" rear projector tv and would like to buy a PS3 to use for blu-ray player but also need a receiver and speakers. Our current Home Theater System is outdated and most of the speakers don't work. What receiver and speakers would you recommend? We'd like to stay within $1000 for them.
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    by msidler87 November 24, 2009 2:52 PM PST
    I know this article has been available for a little while, but I just read it and messed with my tv and discovered an interesting issue. I have an LG 47LG50 60hz lcd screen television, and I noticed you recommended turning off the 24 frames per second option. My tv accepts 24hz material, and as I messed with it i noticed that when i set it to automatic it defaulted to 24hz and did indeed look very choppy and bad. Then when i turned it off the tv detected it and played the material correctly at 60hz.... but then, when i changed the option to the "on" the setting, in order to force 24hz picture, the tv detected it as 24hz material but it played smoothly and without any choppiness at all. I dont understand why this happens; is it just telling me that its playing at 24hz but really playing at 60? if anyone knows the answer please inform me

    p.s. on another note, i have found this particular model of tv to always look markedly better with RGB selected and the RGB range set to full no matter the source (game, dvd, blu-ray, ect). i understand that its just the difference in some tvs but i figured id throw it in.
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