New Apple ads to Verizon: Can Droid do this?

It seems that Apple doesn't respect Verizon's Droid phone quite as much as it does Microsoft's PCs. But two new ad spots, launching Monday evening, come as close as Apple has done thus far to directly attack the allegedly do-it-all robotphone.

The Droid, you see, went after Apple in its teaser campaign with some telling remarks and the hearty claim that Droid does what the iPhone doesn't. Then Verizon decided it would be fun to knock both the iPhone and AT&T's spotty 3G coverage with its "Misfit Toys" concept.

AT&T has already replied by hustling a hastily-dressed Luke Wilson into directing a few resentful pins at Verizon's effigy. However these new ads, while entirely in keeping with the iPhone tone and style, end with a line that expressly assaults the doings of Droid--or rather, its alleged non-doings.

Both ads focus on the iPhone's ability to allow you to use voice and data capabilities simultaneously over the AT&T network. By asking gently at the end of each spot "Can your phone and your network do that?" Apple is bursting what it sees as the inflated stealth bombing that accompanied the launch of the Droid.

Apple iPhone Ad - Did You See My Email? from Arik Hesseldahl on Vimeo.

Apple iPhone Ad - What Time's The Movie? from Arik Hesseldahl on Vimeo.

These ads don't mention the Droid or Verizon by name. But the fact that Apple has decided to address its rivals, however obliquely, suggests that one can look forward to more accusations, more bickering, and more attempted one-upmanship.

'Tis the season of goodwill, after all.

Nice try, Apple/AT&T. The pimp slap you got from Verizon/Motorola must really sting, eh?

FYI, I don't think these ads are valid anyway because AT&T would drop your call way before you even think of firing up Safari.

[lesbihonest17]

nope i always multitask when im making calls from my iphone. first hand experience buddy.

[professionaladventurer]

Negative copy ghost rider. My phone works as the commercial shows.

[CHRIS99182340]

Nice try troll. Try streaming pandora, and getting a phone call --- nope, they goto voicemail. Or worse yet, try mapping somewhere while on the phone with a frantic family member in an emergency. Tons of other examples.

[CHRIS99182340]

Nice try troll. Try streaming pandora, and getting a phone call --- nope, they goto voicemail. Or worse yet, try mapping somewhere while on the phone with a frantic family member in an emergency. Tons of other examples.

[protagonistic]

You might try just using whatever tool works for you. If you have an iPhone/AT&T and they are giving you that much heartburn look elsewhere. If you don't then you really don't know what you are talking about.

[cnetguard]

CHRIS99182340: I don't use Pandora so I can't try that. I'm not sure why you would want to use an AUDIO app while on a call. I check my adress book, my calendar and my emails among other stuff while on a call, but I never even try to play music at the same time, that's just silly.

On your other point: Try mapping somewhere on any phone with a frantic family member in front of you in an emergency. The problem is not the phone call, but the frantic relative.

Nice try troll indeed, Chris.

[DasScooter]

Ghost writer is probably Apple Sux Leo in discuise as everyone thinks hes a tool and hates him so he hides his name

[tektaktyks]

cnetguard try downloading free pandora,run it and have somebody call you,troll

[Eat_A_Peach]

@ CHRIS99182340 I have both an iPhone and Pandora (free) and just tried your suggestion (although I've had this experience before) just now to prove the fallacy. I ran Pandora and streamed music for 5 minutes then used my boyfriend's phone to call my iPhone while it was running Pandora and not shockingly it paused and the image and ringtone I have set for my boyfriend's phone # came right up and I answered the call. It does NOT go to voicemail. Even had my girlfriend with an iPhone try it and I called her and again, no surprise that Pandora stopped playing and she answered my call within seconds of it ringing. If you're having calls going to voicemail, you either have a problem with the phone (needs an OS update?) or with the app (needs an update?) because the senario you describe just doesn't happen with an iPhone 3G (updated) or 3GS (updated) and the current Pandora (free) app.

[guest18934367]

Why would you want to run Pandora and take a call at the same time, so the person on the other end can listen to your music? That's just plain rude.

[shiningdevil]

Assuming you get connect into a phone call in the first place.

[protagonistic]

No problems getting through here in the boondocks. Maybe you should move.

[bctexas]

Yeah, this talk about AT&T's coverage area just confuses me. I believe if you get bad coverage, then you probably live in North Dakota or somewhere that doesnt really matter anyways. You know, one of those states that we could just give to Canada and never really notice. My iPhone works well everywhere in Dallas, and never leaves 3G mode either, hrmmmm,....how's that with all this talk about spotty coverage? Idiots.

[solitare_pax]

The Verizon ad is pointing out AT&T's lack of 3G coverage - but I imagine AT&T has nationwide coverage for calls and slower data transfer coverage.

Trouble is, in a 30-second spot, you don't always notice that disclaimer for the maps, which makes AT&T look really bad.

[summershoe]

@bctexas - of course you're confused. you're from texas, a state we should have given away to mexico about 9 years ago :)

[Lennron]

@summershoe

Texas said they were going to succeed a few months back and become their own country. I don't know about you, but I say let them go. :)
And when they become their own country and are finally able to build that border fence they've been obsessing over, they can keep going and build a fence around all their borders. Not that anybody from the other states are ever going to want to get in.

[shuyin84]

how did we go from arguing bout the iphone, to arguing bout texas?

[xcopy]

@ shuyin84

not sure, but I think it was because someone is from TX, but regardless it's pretty funny.

There are a few good people in TX, but my only question now is since we didn't give it to Mexico 9 years ago (a colossal mistake that nearly ruined the world), can we now arrange to have it permanently hermetically sealed so noting in there can ever get out again? If so,round a few of the more prominent problems up (like Dick) and jam them in there too before we do the deed. We won't ever have to worry about TX soiling the rest of the country again. :)

[rob90278]

@lenron: Perhaps you should spend more time in school and less time on the internet. "Succeed" means to be successful, which the state of Texas is. More people are moving there than any other state. I believe what you were trying to say was "secede," which means to formally withdraw from an alliance.

[UCVirus]

LOL. Wow AT&T is focusing on the one thing the iPhone can do that any other phone can't.

[Deelron]

Other phones can do it, just not Verizon's network.

It must suck to have one in an area with no coverage, where I live and travel it has excellent coverage. Luckily we don't all live in NY or SF.

[professionaladventurer]

I live in Alaska and have an off grid place on the island of Hawaii. ATT 3G works just about every where I go: http://www.professionaladventurer.com

[bburn--2008]

Well, the thing is, the Palm Pre or Motorola Droid may have better (although quite unstable) multitasking sure but who really cares? Everything else, browser, media player and the App Store flushes all those clones down the toilet.

I do QA for Roger Canada and we get to try A LOT of phones. And I am sorry but the iPhone kicks every other smartphone in the rear! Some come close but, well, Android is not quite up to speed yet. Windows Mobile is plain terrible. Only Blackberry is still the best alternative but, it's not always easy for the ego to admit but, the iPhone is the clear leader!!!

[DasScooter]

I Live near Gotham and when I enter my iPhone works its 3G just fine

[celticbrewer]

...And the one thing most people don't care about.

Cmon, first off- who wants to actually make a voice call anymore? Everyone I know uses text 98% of the time at least. And if they do happen to actually call someone, they're not going to be surfing the web or checking e-mail at the same time.

That's a pretty lame comeback Apple/AT&T...

[Mr_fleabite]

@celticbrewer
Those who want to relay info to someone quickly call them and talk. If you want to get some info to a lot of people at once yeah a mass text works great. Some of us hate mashing our thumbs on a tiny screen or absurdly small qwerty keyboard. It's faster to call and say:
-Movie is at 7:10 6th and Main theater you in?
-yeah
-cool see you there.

[Michichael]

Actually the G1 can do that just fine. Did it last night when I was lost trying to find a gas station while talking to my boss. :)

[grtgrfx]

Actually the 1G CAN'T do that. We have an original 8GB iPhone and, with WiFi disabled, we cannot use any internet-necessary apps while on a voice call. The phone says (depending on the app), "cannot access the internet, please try later," or something similar. Obviously you can get internet app data if you're in WiFi range and allowed on that network, but Apple has no disclaimer in the ads saying "may require WiFi for simultaneous data and voice functionality."

So if this does work in iPhones through the AT&T network alone, it's obviously a 3G or better function and not universal to ANY iPhone. Bummer for older iPhone owners.

[Robert aka ted]

The best part is everything that the Droid and iPhone advertise as being capable of has already been done with Windows Mobile phones. I cannot believe people with iPhones can even stand not being able to run simultaneous apps. It's just so amusing that a phone like the Touch Pro 2 does more than both of these phones and has had predecessors that also were as capable.
Window Mobile phones may get joked a lot, but they actually do everything. However, the Droid commercial was awesome- I hate the snobby iPhone commercials.

[frozenjello]

@grtgrfx; I think Michichael was talking about the T-Mobile G1, not the first generation iPhone.

But you do bring up a good point. Simultaneous voice and data is not possible on GSM EDGE, only on GSM 3G.

No, Apple, my Droid can't do that (if I'm not on wifi). But it can do everything else pretty darn well, including making phone calls without worrying of the call getting dropped.

And I'd argue the whole viewing emails thing while on a call, but I'll let that one go.

[timber2005]

Wait your Droid can't? Huh.... I can on the Hero (sprint). But its really not the "network" which has anything to do with it.

[chabig83]

Timber, it is the network. Verizon's CDMA network can't support both data and voice simultaneously on the same device.

[davidmcelroy_dotmac]

Why would you "argue the whole viewing emails thing while on a call"? Are you claiming that it can't be done? Are you claiming that it's not useful? Or what? Almost every single day, I perform data functions while I'm on my iPhone. Sometimes it has to do with the call I'm on and sometimes it's just a matter of getting things done while somebody talks. I wouldn't bother doing it with the speaker phone (just because I don't personally like speaker phones), but using the earbuds really enables me to get a lot done while I talk on the phone. If you've never experienced it, maybe you're just unaware of how useful it is. That seems hard to believe, though, because it was a feature that I frequently needed with the original iPhone (before we had 3G).

It amazes me how ignorant people keep repeating the claim about every iPhone user having to worry about calls being dropped. The truth is that I don't have any more dropped calls than I had with my RAZR before this or the various Nokias and Sony Ericksons I had before that (on several different phone networks). From what I've read, AT&T truly might be overloaded in NYC and San Francisco, but most of us don't happen to live or work there, so it's irrelevant to us for the most part. I'm sure it's a bummer for people in those areas, but I'm also sure that AT&T is smart enough to be bringing new capacity online as soon as possible. For most people, the "dropped calls" thing is a total red herring.

I couldn't care less what phone you use, but it makes you look ignorant to pretend that data use while on a call isn't important.

[mluvas]

You make phone call using your smartphone. How dumb is that!! So 19th century.

[timber2005]

Oh. Well that stinks. I had no idea of that.

@davidmcelroy_dotmac

First off:
SIMMA DOWN NAH

Secondly:
I wasn't arguing the usefulness of doing emailing while on the phone. I'm arguing that you can do it on the Droid too. Even with no reception (aka underground in the subway) I can read/write/label/archive emails while heading to work.

THAT is my argument. Next time calm the hell down before you fly off the handle on someone.

[cnetguard]

Actually, I do use other apps while on a call VERY frequently, in particular (but not only) mail and calendar. Normally it's a little bit cumbersome because you have the phone in front of you, not next to your ear. You can put the handset on speaker-phone, but that's very rude with the people around you. So what I do is plug in the earphones/microphone if I have it with me, which is not always the case.

Of course you think people would not do that, but that's because you never think of doing it. And you don't think it because... well, because you can't do it!

Oh, and one more thing: I never worry about the call getting dropped. I guess I am blessed by living in a city with good coverage and far less people clogging the network, but still it's never in my mind.

[ktappe]

The ads do not show using e-mail while on a call. Perhaps you could spare a mere 60 seconds to view the ads you were so eager to incorrectly reply to?!? Oh, and don't bother posting back until your Droid has 100,000 apps to choose from.

@cnetguard actually, that's not entirely true that the Droid "can't do that". I've definitely had calls where I had to switch between my email, calendar, and my note taking app. The argument is that you cannot do any data related activities while on a phone call. Gmail and calendar can work in offline mode, then syncs once it picks up a data connection again.

[protagonistic]

You must be on someones s**t list. Dropped calls are extremely rare for me.

[frozenjello]

I found it refreshing to have iPhone commercials that advertise the usefulness of the iPhone's standard apps (with some third-party apps thrown in there) without the need to say "there's an app for that".

[Seaspray0]

I want to see more commercials from both att and verizon that throw mud at the competitors phone because it can't do something trivial or irrealivent for most people. I want to see the half truths and sarchastic criticisms blossom in each new ad. I want the slander to explode on the airwaves and the public inundated with the tripe each one can make up about the other. I want it to continue until everyone becomes sick of the ads and the companies involved.

Remember back in the days when it was cool to have an AOL account because everyone was on it and it was the first to commercialize internet access? Then it went downhill because there were always busy signals and you could never get online?

Yeah...

[Edicius00]

No, it was never "cool" to be on AOL.

@Edicius00 Yup, I say the same thing about having an iPhone.

[ktappe]

I'm not trying to be cool with my iPhone, I'm simply walking around being productive and happy. Heaven forbid.
You guys who are trying to be cool by calling the iPhone uncool are really pathetic. It's amazing how far some people go out of their way to not understand.

[Edicius00]

Glad we agree, I never said it was cool to own an iPhone.

[ausernamenoonehaschosen]

It was definitely never ever ever cool to use AOL. God I cringe at those three letters even though the torture was so long ago.

[celticbrewer]

Compuserve was the first to commercialize internet access. Maybe even prodigy next, AOL was next down the line. But point taken...

[Renegade Knight]

AOL start wasn't internet anything. They were their own network.The rise of the internet was the end of Compuserve and Prodogy, while AOL did a fairly good job making the transition but has lost a lot of ground lately.

[DigitalAngelic]

AOL. Ugh. I never did use their service (I had Earthlink for a while, I believe) but I recently worked on the computer of someone that was still using AOL dial-up. Oh, the horror.

(Also, AOL Instant Messenger is still the most popular IM service in the US. Can you believe that?)

[DigitalAngelic]

AOL. Ugh. I never did use their service (I had Earthlink for a while, I believe) but I recently worked on the computer of someone that was still using AOL dial-up. Oh, the horror.

(Also, AOL Instant Messenger is still the most popular IM service in the US. Can you believe that?)

[kcm117]

I have an android phone on T-Mobile (mytouch3g) and i can do all of those things on android already?? Does verizon have a restriction on multitasking on the Droid's android build?

[cbscowards]

It's not a restriction on multitasking -- CDMA cannot support both voice and data at the same time.

[mluvas]

Yes it a restriction on multi-tasking at the most basic level, the network. It can only do one thing at a time and that too real SSSLLLOOOWWW!!.

[daniel172008]

You can still multi-task while on a call, you just cant use the internet and be on the phone at the same time. If you have Gmail syncing turned on then it doesn't matter because your emails will be updated periodically anyway. Its a limitation but is it really that big of a deal to call someone back?

Then again, I guess its just not a big deal for me since I'm usually texting and not on the phone anyway...

[Bakkster]

@daniel172008: Only the mobile internet. Wi-fi works fine while in a call.

[JuggerNaut]

The Droid has too many movable parts and Verizon's mostly reliable network is SLOW. So, IMHO, it's a stale mate. Also the Droids lack of good multi touch features (gestures, etc...) means that it doesn't hold a candle to the iPhone in its current form.

On a different note: it's good to see the Google Android OS getting some good marketing/press.

[mattumanu]

The Droid Eris has multitouch. Oh well, iPhool can't win everytime.

[fortyonejb]

I thought I would clarify that the droid handset can very much support multi touch, its just that apple gets all uppity defending their vapid patents that end up getting invalidated anyways, so Google is just biding their time before enabling it. Android > iPhoneOS hands down. Especially when I know my apps won't get nullified because some minimum wage app reviewer won't axe it because they are cranky one day.

[CyR00k]

@fortyonejb If I remember correctly, Apple never owned the patents for multi-touch in the first place which is one of many reasons that they have been sued for the iPhone and iPod Touch infringing on other people's patents.

[daniel172008]

If you are refering to the keyboard and the battery being "movable" then most people would consider that a good thing. Actually, why would that matter unless your a complete clutz and cant hold on to your phone anyway?

As to the speed of the networks... see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9YGvLHvUxQ

The Droid does have multi-touch, just not in any of the native applications... and honestly you (and everyone else that uses this argument) make it sound like the phone can't zoom at all...

I would have to say that the Droid is an equal competitor to the iPhone and it really comes down to preference. That, and if your an techno-idiot then the iPhone might be slightly easier to use.

[Renegade Knight]

Multitouch is nice, but it's not the end all be all. I find that having options makes the most sence. I'd like Multi Touch with a point stick and buttons for example. Both do different things well. I'd mix and match.

[Edicius00]

I've had my iPhone 3g since they came out and I've never had a single dropped call. My friends have verizon and the always complain about their signals and dropped calls. Just because it happens to some, doesn't mean that it happens to all.

ps: Verizon should be careful when poking Apple about the iPhone as they've already stated that they would love to have it on their network.

It really depends on the area you're in. AT&T ************************ in small towns like New York City.

Wow, I can't say "suckz h@iry d0nkey b@lls" on cnet? Lame...

[SIGHUP]

"ps: Verizon should be careful when poking Apple about the iPhone as they've already stated that they would love to have it on their network."

Where did you hear that? It's been widely published that Apple approached Verizon first and Verizon said NO ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/30/verizon_turned_down_iphone/ ). Hopefully it stays that way.

[lesbihonest17]

the droid sucks. i tried out that keyboard at bestbuy. it was awful. ill gladly stick with my iphone

[mr_kingpin]

umm the keyboard is an option for people that dont like the touchpad keypad..nice to have the option dont you think?

[EnslavedYeti]

The only thing you tried was the keyboard? Either way the physical keyboard is MUCH better than the iphone's physical keyboard... The virtual keyboard is just as good, if not better because it lists multiple words if you misspell a word, instead of iphone's single word suggestion.

[jimmyhoops]

@Kingpin...not it's not, the thing weighs a ton. Why add a useless feature when a touch keyboard works just as well if not better. Driod needs to pick an option and stick with it.

[zyxxy]

Droid did pick an option, the physical keyboard. The virtual keyboard is an app. What was your point, exactly?

[Bakkster]

@jimmyhoops: I disagree, a physical keyboard is far better than a touch keyboard. I only use the touch on my Droid when absolutely necessary, it's far too easy to make mistakes on a touch keyboard. Also, it's faster to use capitals and symbols on the physical keyboard (can tap the shift or alt button to have only the next keypress activated), which is a big deal when you use strong passphrases.

As for being heavy, it's not overly so, although definitely more than an iPhone. Regardless, I'd rather have the extra weight of the keyboard than not be able to type easily on a light-weight phone.

[Renegade Knight]

You tried out both keyboards?

@jimmyhoops

In a way it picked both, If you want the physical keyboard, get the droid. If you want touch keyboard only, get the droid eris. Personally, I'll stick with my Touch Pro2, great phone and does everything I need it to.

sidenote at main article, Chris I wouldn't say that Verizon was knocking the iPhone with the Misfit toys commercial. It seemed more like they were saying the iPhone was a good phone that was a misfit due to At&t.

[Gold_Storm_Mac]

this is a great ad that indirectly attacks verizon well.

I'd say it's more grasping at straws, at best.

[Perry_Clease]

"I'd say it's more grasping at straws, at best."

Yeah, I woud think that you would say that, but it is more like grabbing the brass ring.

"Yeah, I woud think that you would say that, but it is more like grabbing the brass ring."

So you're saying that's how an iPhone user pleasures himself?

[Perry_Clease]

"So you're saying that's how an iPhone user pleasures himself?"

No surprise that you don't understand the phrase.

[Vegaman_Dan]

@Gold_Storm_Mac:

Based on the story and the comments here as a response, it would appear that the ad turned out to be more of an embarassment for Apple. :/

@Perry_Clease:

"Grabbing the brass ring." That's a reference to old carnival rides on the carousel in which peopl would use sticks and lean out from the ride to try to snag brass rings from the overhanging canopy in exchange for prizes. Frequently this would result in the rider falling and causing great bodily injury to the point where this practice was banned as an unsafe and unwise activity.

Are you SURE you want to suggest that this is a GOOD thing for Apple to be compared to?

(disclosure: Still on my first year of my 2 year iPhone/AT&T contract, with a pretty decent call completion rate of 65-70%).

[bblande]

timber2005, the Sprint Hero will do it only if wifi is enabled....guess it's a good thing I'm near a wifi hotspot most of the time, eh?

[mluvas]

Cannot take a call and perform other tasks at the same time. Shows what a crappy network Verizon has.

Yup seriously. It's so crappy that it has 5x more coverage than AT&T and beat out all other networks (with AT&T at the bottom of the list) in call quality and customer satisfaction from JD Power & Associates.

Really, what a piece of turd.

[DasScooter]

MR________________________ what relevance does this have when Verizon switches to LTE (GSM)?

[ausernamenoonehaschosen]

Ghostwriter, AT&T was second, Sprint was last (this was on the overall average rating graph). You can't link to it over the internet though, but I read this is the magazine. Stop falsifying.

[Blader4175]

I have Sprint and i can say that i hate them more than my piece of junk PC laptop im surprised they haven't been buried under their crap phones yet.

[Renegade Knight]

Is that the network of is that the Phone?

[squirrel1022]

too funny, the moto droid can do voice and web at same time. don't knock if you don't know

[drfriday]

I bought the Droid the day it came out and I must say it is one cool computer. This phone definately has Apple worried and rightly so. It is very fun to use. Google is the third player that is dangerous to both Microsoft and Apple.

[jimmyhoops]

Apple's not worried, it's about market share. If Driod starts to gobble that up then you might have a point. But those results won't be in for at least a year or more. Competition is a good thing. The iPhone is likely to get better, faster, as a result.

[mike234x]

"Apple's not worried, it's about market share." - And Apple's market share is still small. - "The iPhone is likely to get better, faster, as a result." - The main problem with iPhone isn't quality or speed, it's price. For $1000 (unlocked), it's easy to build a kick-ass phone. But you will soon be able to get Android phones for $150 (unlocked). And Apple seems to be incapable of making anything really competitively priced. Who do you think is going to have the market share?

[gerrrg]

I guess this is the perfect time to plug T-Mo, which will be running 21Mbps next year, and 7.2 Mbps by the end of this year, with no problems running data and phone calls at the same time.

Android on TMo...works for me.

[frozenjello]

Those download speeds are great, but isn't it commonly accepted that T-Mobile's 3G coverage is even more sparse than AT&T's? T-Mo only started building their 3G network in 2008, after all.

[robnesstheawesome]

I have a Droid, and yes... Yes my phone does do that. On my network. What do you got to say now?

[DasScooter]

Which parts does it do please inform us of details

[ecyfoto]

Um, so i read the article and thought I'd give it a shot with my HTC Eris. I called myself from the land line and then accessed my gmail account. No problem. Voice and data simultaneously. Should that result be any different on a Droid on the same network? Hmm.

[DasScooter]

try surfing the net and get back to me

[drezjohnson]

Yes, surfing the web works just as usual

[JayMonster]

No... you did not get Voice and Data simultaneously. You got voice, and a cached application. It is a limitation of CDMA that you cannot do both at the same time. The simple fact of the matter is though... very few people actually care. Sure you will see lots of Apple Fanboys claiming "Oh yeah... I do that all the time." now that this ad is out but really? How often do you need to get a movie time while on the phone? And how long is the other person on the line supposed to wait while you lousy connection (even if it is 3G) loads the web page?

[drezjohnson]

I don't use the Droid but I do use the MyTouch 3G on T-Mobile. I frequently check my email, send texts and use other apps while I'm on the phone. Correct me if I'm wrong but none of those features mentioned are unique to just the Iphone. The Droid is running the latest version of Android so I see no reason why the features wouldn't be the same (or better)...unless of course Verizon has some network restrictions that prevent these features

[frozenjello]

Both T-Mobile and AT&T use the GSM wireless standard, so any GSM smartphone can potentially do the features shown in the above commercials. Verizon and Sprint use the CDMA standard, which can't do simultaneous voice and data. The Motorola Droid suffers from this limitation, but the GSM version, the Motorola Milestone, shouldn't have this problem.

[DrtyDogg]

Actually CDMA is capable of voice and data at the same time, though Sprint and Verizon decided against it while building out their network.

[drezjohnson]

Hmm...interesting...well I've never used Verizon and its been a loooooooong time since I've had Sprint but that is some useful info

[jguzman277]

While Verizon and AT&T are bickering between each other, Sprint is slowly coming from behind, one thing I know people care about more than features is how much the bill is at the end of the month. And with these two, nickel and diming people with all their fees and charging 30 for data access, they are bound to start losing customers to Sprint and T-Mobile. When I tell my friends on Verizon and AT&T how much I pay for my two phones per month their jaws drop (a little bit more than what they pay for one phone). I already got a couple to switch.

[krazytrixxxsta]

i hear that...i read an article last week about how tmobile will be the leading mobile company in a few years, because of their better sevices, prices and 3 g network than the others company. not to long ago there was an article about how android os would have the second largest market share and knock iphone down to third place.

[NikEst]

I have the LG Envy (yes, the first one), and I can be on the phone and sending a text message, although why I would need to I will never figure out. I also fail to see why I need my email in my pocket. We could solve all this tussle if people just realized that connectnedness is not that important.

Before being blasted as a technophobe, I am a software engineer who doubles as the IT person for a small development company. Despite all that, I get my job done well without my email in my pocket.

[jimmyhoops]

You may shun connectedness, but that's not most of the rest of the world. Device convergence is the future regardless of wether or not those features are useful to you.