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November 22, 2009 11:42 AM PST

The Black Friday deals that aren't

by Chris Matyszczyk
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If it's five o'clock in the morning and you have to spend your time with far more people than you're used to, pushing, pulling and writhing your way to satisfaction, then perhaps a shopping mall is not the ideal location.

The tradition of Black Friday as the day when one attains negotiation nirvana seems a peculiar one. And one has to wonder whether people have learned that some of the deals really aren't deals at all.

As CNET's Rick Broida has already pointed out, many of the alleged deals aren't terribly enticing, as stores have been forced to reduce their prices all year in a desperate attempt to attract the cash-strapped.

However, CNNMoney.com has also written of some slightly tired tactics being promulgated by Black Friday peddlers.

It seems that some are using the rather more saliva-inducing tech items to snap people's sleeping patterns. However, the tinier print of the inducement reveals that there may not be many of these items in stock.

If this reminds you of car dealers, well, then it's perhaps not a good thing.

CNNMoney.com tells the story of Sears' trumpeting of a Samsung 40-inch 1080p LCD HDTV for $599.99. Would this make you slip you fur coat over your PJs, leap into your sedan, and rush to your local mall while it's still dark outside?

Black Friday is so much fun, isnt it?

(Credit: CC HermanTurnip/Flickr)

The tinier print might give you pause for thought. It reads "Only while quantities last, minimum three per store, no rainchecks."

This is not to suggest that Sears is the only retailer succumbing to these slightly tired mechanisms. But why does this remind one of Vegas casinos, who, when realizing that the gambler with a fine memory was in a relatively favorable position in two-deck blackjack, introduced multiple decks, just to increase the fun?

CNNMoney.com also revealed that some products on sale might be so-called "derivatives." For the less initiated, this might be translated as "inferior models." It might be an HDTV that enjoys a lower image contrast ratio. Or an iPhone that can't download apps. (Yes, the latter is an exaggeration.)

Edgar Dworsky, editor of Consumer World, was even quoted by CNNMoney.com as dampening the hopes that might dwell in a raincheck: "A raincheck doesn't guarantee that you will eventually get that elusive Black Friday deal. Consumers can go weeks waiting and hoping, and the retailer may never get more of the product shipped to its stores."

Might I make a suggestion as I watch the fast-moving train that is the desperate need for deals rushing headlong at the train that is the equally desperate need for profits?

Why don't stores offer a couple of truthful ads? Something like this: "Look, we've got three Samsung 40-inchers for $599.99. We won't make any money on them. But we're advertising them so that you can get excited. We promise there will be three of them and we'll sell them to the first person who comes in and guesses the middle name of our handsome salesman, Brad. We think that's fairer than having y'all fight, bite and claw outside our front door. Life is random. So are our deals."

This is a new era in the relationship between retailers and their customers. Social networking is forcing companies to be far more authentic with their customers than they have ever felt comfortable being before.

Why can't some of them use Black Friday as the first day of their new authenticity? It just might engender a little loyalty and a little trust. You know, for those other 364 days of the year.

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by gbwells November 22, 2009 12:17 PM PST
honestly, aren't these "tactics" the same thing that's been going on for years? "minimum 3" isn't anything new. the "doorbusters" are always limited to low numbers. black friday has always been about being one of the first 5-10 people who want some big ticket item. <br /><br />the only part of this story that's new is the fact that the deals are less valuable because retailers have been forced to cut regular sale prices more than usual.
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by ti99_forever November 22, 2009 12:21 PM PST
No, "derivatives" is new, quite a different definition than I learned in calculus and accounting... that to me is the part that sounds like a used car salesman.<br />I once was test driving a used car, and the turn signal lever fell off - the salesman said "we can put a little glue on that and it'll be just fine!"
by Gunit7677 November 22, 2009 12:20 PM PST
They always feel the need to hide something from consumers. then they complain when people won't shop in their stores.
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by atomD21 November 22, 2009 6:58 PM PST
Just the other weekend, I went into Walmart at six in the morning to get the $500 42" Sharp LCD they had advertised. Long story short, the advertised deal evaporated when at 7:45 the manager handing out tickets to guarantee the people the items they wanted informed us they had gotten none of those, but we could buy the 46" for $700. Wasted morning... never again.
by RobinQueens November 22, 2009 12:26 PM PST
This is old news. Last year on Long Island people were trampled to the ground including to death due this form of "sales" at the great purveyor of sales WalMart.
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by Xenite227 November 22, 2009 12:37 PM PST
As long as the suckers keep coming to buy those $5 toasters they will keep doing this crap too....
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by protagonistic November 22, 2009 12:42 PM PST
I will not be doing Black Friday in the stores this year. I will stay home and sleep in and then look for online deals over the weekend and on Monday. The last couple of years just haven't had the deals of years before.
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by aka_tripleB November 24, 2009 12:35 AM PST
Why search for deals? Buy from companies that treat you like a person, not a wallet. They you'll likely get good deals year-round because they think of you as a "friend" (for lack of a better word).
by websterphreaky November 22, 2009 12:55 PM PST
You know it's "Black Friday" at crApple and crApple stores January 2nd ..... cause EVERYTHING is so Price Gouging and Over-priced (just look at crApple's yearly Scandalous Profits), they're making profits on crApple garbage on from the first business day of the year!<br />[CNET editor's note: Personal attack deleted.]
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by pjhenry1216 November 22, 2009 1:04 PM PST
i'm no fan of Apple, but what does this have to do with the story? You give folks who dislike Apple a bad name pulling stunts like this.
by lordmorgul November 22, 2009 1:17 PM PST
So what you're saying is you feel inferior and need to lash out at others as often as possible to deal with it?
by nickh2 November 23, 2009 6:06 AM PST
Webster!. Good grief man, you will give youself a heart attack!<br />All purple faced, frothing at the mouth and pounding your keyboard in rage like that.<br /><br />You really should take the job as a fry cook that's on offer over at McDonalds.<br />Yes sir. There's room to move up in a job like that.
by tismeinaz November 22, 2009 1:49 PM PST
Maybe it is time to go back to the original meaning of Christmas. First of all, I don't buy my near and dears $600 dollar presents so Black Friday is more about the me gifts than the joy of giving and I don't need big ticket items, even if I could afford them. Time to go back to making gifts that mean something to the people receiving them. Time to get back to basics and screw the shopping scene that got so many people in trouble.
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by KitaniMasaya November 22, 2009 2:08 PM PST
Lets all go buy batteries on Black Friday, I know that's what I stay up and line up for at Frys!<br /><br />Honestly speaking though, I guess if you shop at Best Buy or some other retail store that charges at least 1.5x - 2x the MSRP (slight exaggeration) normally, then yeah, the MSRP they give you on Black Friday seems like a good deal.<br /><br />In my book, unless you see something you want and you already know the usual selling price (thus noticing a price drop), Black Friday this year is a waste of time.
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by BigGuns149 November 22, 2009 3:13 PM PST
Having worked in retail during 3 Black Fridays I can say that most of the people that show up often have no clue what the regular price on this stuff is anyways. Big sales tend to draw crowds regardless of the quality of the ad items.<br /><br /> I can remember getting a line for a notebook on our annual anniversary sale that was the exact same price on the exact same item that we sold a few weeks ago. When we did the same ad weeks earlier virtually nobody asked for it.<br /><br />Especially with Black Friday ads appearing online a week or more before the fact there is ample time to research whether an item really is a hot deal or not. Ironically a lot of the ad items have sold for the same price at some point earlier in the year, but a tiny fraction as many people are reading the ad. Save for a couple of door busters I rarely see anything that hasn't already been sold at that price earlier in the year without the lines.
by Stormspace November 23, 2009 7:46 AM PST
I agree completely. Even on other days than black friday when I walk through BB I see many items priced 10-20% higher than online retailers. It's only when I see a truly good deal that I make a purchase at BB, or it's an item that is so common that BB has to keep the price in line with local retailers.
by Dan7637 November 22, 2009 2:27 PM PST
thats why you get your @$$ in your car right after finishing dinner and head over to the store you want<br /><br />always get what i want
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by summershoe November 22, 2009 2:45 PM PST
Seriously, can news.com make it through an article without mentioning the iphone? just once? does it really increase the page hits that much? an iphone that doesn't download apps. that. is. desperate.
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by ckh1272 November 22, 2009 3:49 PM PST
It worked for websterphreaky. LOL!!
by forkboy November 22, 2009 3:54 PM PST
I find there are two problems with Black Friday sales:<br /><br />1) So many of the deals on consumer electronics are for entry-level model lines of any given product, which sucks, and <br /><br />2) I don't like to shop them anyway. It's not the crowds or traffic, but I really detest the notion that folks working at retailers have to be at their stores at 2, 3 or 4:00a.m. the day after Thanksgiving. It just seems wrong. Unfair, Impolite. As such, I won't be part of the process.
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by frido84 November 23, 2009 6:31 AM PST
Being that I have been in retail for 11 years now, I thank you for acknowledging that there is absolutely no reason I should be working at 3am the day after Thanksgiving. I have seen the opening times go from 7am (10 years ago), and now this year, we open @ midnight. Shop earlier people!!! The prices are all the same.
by gerrrg November 22, 2009 4:27 PM PST
Who buys in-store anymore? Buy online.
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by lazycat202 November 22, 2009 4:42 PM PST
free tax, free s/h!
by ckh1272 November 23, 2009 5:44 AM PST
@lazycat202--Enjoy that free tax while it lasts, because more and more states are changing that (if you live in the U.S.). Otherwise, I order online whenever possible. It saves me the hassle of dealing crappy drivers and crappy shoppers.
by Random_Walk November 25, 2009 9:19 AM PST
Heh... Oregon has no sales tax, and s/h charges are non-existent when you're the one taking it home. :)
by tighitill November 22, 2009 6:42 PM PST
I think in store sales are a little ridiculous for black friday. Last year I was so frustrated at Best Buy, i didn't even get what I wanted... ended up shopping online. I used a coupon site to find my deals and was pretty happy about it. My site of choice now is http://gopromocodes.com This site lists out Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals.
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by Proud_Geek November 22, 2009 10:18 PM PST
Why don't we all stop feeding into this excessive consumerism madness, stay home, spend time with your family, and maybe MAKE them gifts for a change?
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by the_ricochet November 22, 2009 10:38 PM PST
Brad's middle name is Stephen. For those wanting that TV.
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by globalist_agenda November 22, 2009 11:57 PM PST
The running of the bulls. The real excitement on Black Friday is seeing who will get trampled to death as the masses rush to get their discount merchandise.
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by jswanstr November 23, 2009 5:13 AM PST
What is the deal with everyone recommending people make their own gifts? <br /><br />Don't get me wrong. It is not about the stuff. It is about the thought. The thought put into buying the perfect gift or building the perfect gift is cool. The thought that you gave me something you know I have no use for because you could make it yourself for basically free is insulting.<br /> <br />The problem is people that make gifts themselves generally don't put thought into it. They may put in personal effort, but personal effort does not equal thought. The thought process should not be, "What can I make that they might want?" It should be, "What do they really want that I can make or get for a lower price than they can."<br /><br />If someone were to build me a nice kitchen table that I needed... That would be cool. If a broke college student or even a cash strapped adult gave me a gift certificate to clean and vacuum my car, it would be on my top 10 best gifts. If someone gave me a decoration that they made, it shows that they clearly put no thought into who I am and what I would want.<br /><br />Some great nearly free gifts:<br />Clean my [fill in the blank]<br />Drop me off and pick me up at the airport<br />Do my laundry<br />Bake me a pie<br />Babysit my kids!!!<br />change my oil<br />Clean up the cables behind my computer/TV<br />Clean my garage<br />Winterize my car<br />Take care of my dog<br />Do anything that you see I keep putting off
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by Bobbydeal November 23, 2009 6:23 AM PST
Chris's article teaches us it is still necessary to shop and compare. With new Black Friday sites like http://www.BlackFridayAds2009.info publishing the deals before, during and after Black Friday - and the online deals - the rush at the store will be less this year. Online shopping - early shopping - is in. This site posted the all week Amazon Black Friday sale last night and Amazon is doing the comparing for you and says they will have the lowest prices!
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by sparrowhyperion November 23, 2009 7:01 AM PST
I'm just shopping online this year. I'll probably save over $100 just in gas money.
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by lallybroch November 23, 2009 9:45 AM PST
Here are some great Black Friday sales here:<br /><br />http://www.mahalo.com/black-friday-deals
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