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November 19, 2009 7:13 PM PST

Town to photograph every car that enters and leaves

by Chris Matyszczyk
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Tiburon, Calif., is a twee little place. If you aren't familiar with the old-country colloquialism "twee," it means, well, something like "precious." Like one of those dogs Paris Hilton used to carry in her purse.

When one wanders through its little streets, just north of San Francisco, one gets the sense that a few of the residents, on seeing someone who appears not to be from around those parts, reach for their handkerchief and hand sanitizer.

How can one, therefore, be surprised that a meeting of the Tiburon Town Council voted on Wednesday by 4 to 0 to install cameras to photograph every single car that enters or leaves this little Disneyland?

The San Francisco Chronicle reported that this may be the first community in the country to have defended itself with cameras in such a way. The idea is to photograph the license plates of every car that treads Tiburon's hallowed roads and compare the information with the police's list of the stolen and nefarious.

Tiburon. Such a tranquil place.

(Credit: CC Stewart/Flickr)

The Tiburon police chief, Michael Cronin, told the Chronicle: "I think it makes the community safer."

There are certainly even more definitions of the word "safety" than of the word "twee." However, it is heartwarming that the Tiburon police--inspired, perhaps, by Google--promise that the information will be kept for only 30 days.

The strange thing is that Tiburon, a northern suburb of San Francisco, isn't exactly Oakland. It doesn't enjoy high crime figures. Indeed, some might say that the most criminal elements in the place are to be seen on the racks of its clothes stores.

The town is fortunate, however, in that it is on a peninsula, from which there are only two roads. So the total cost of putting up six cameras is estimated to be no more than $200,000, which works out at something near $20 per resident. (Tiburon residents enjoy, by the way, a median income somewhere above $125,000.)

I know there will be some who believe you can never have enough security cameras in this heinous and half-witted world. But perhaps some will worry that the police might make rather instinctive judgments about the provenance of certain cars and their intentions.

Others will wonder whether this decision might affect businesses in Tiburon. Still others will ponder whether the police might be willing to offer a Web site showing the movements of all its officers.

I merely wonder how many people, knowing they might have to go to Tiburon for a meal of organic Kobe beef, rosemary ice cream, and plenty of Stags Leap cabernet, will choose to remove their front license plates. You know, just to be on the safe side.

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by BarkerDigital November 19, 2009 7:54 PM PST
Search on ALPR (Automatic License Plate Recognition). Squad-car mounted cameras automatically running the plates of every car they can pick up.
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by aMUSICsite November 20, 2009 2:56 AM PST
Over here is's called ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition)<br /><br />Old news for the UK, London has had this for years, it's also the first step to charging you for entering a city. Once they can identify you they can charge you.<br /><br />Also in the centre of London they capture every face of every person entering and leaving, so you still have some catching up to do...
by Lerianis3 November 19, 2009 7:56 PM PST
This is also not justifiable under the 'innocent until proven guilty' part of the Constitution that says that people have the right to move around WITHOUT being monitored by the government at all times. Any judge who saw a case against someone, even the 'worst of the worst', with this as the main part of the case would have to throw it out.<br />Seems like Tiburon is another one of those stupid conservative towns where they preach 'trusting your neighbor' but have a sawed-off shotgun in their bedrooms because they really don't.
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by drobosson November 19, 2009 8:28 PM PST
PEOPLE have the right to liberty without restriction, not the PRIVILEDGE of driving a vehicle. Couple that with the fact that you are driving a vehicle IN public and ON public roads and you would have no recourse against being photographed.<br /><br />That being said, if you happen to be driving a stolen vehicle and are arrested for such, you are STILL innocent until proven guilty in a court of law so I fail to see the point of your argument.
by globalist_agenda November 20, 2009 12:52 AM PST
Actually Tiburon, like the rest of Marin County, is very liberal. Liberals love the thought of spying on each other in a surveillance type society. Nostalgia for the days of Fidel, Stalin, the Stasi, stuff like that. Just make sure you don't tape them buying their cocaine. Keep that drug pipleline from Mexico flowin, oh yeah baby!
by uthene254 November 20, 2009 6:03 AM PST
I think, in the Obama era, we need a new version of Godwin's law: "As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Communists or Stalin approaches 1."
by Endbringer November 20, 2009 6:04 AM PST
Conservatives are against this type of police power. I don't know where you get off stating that this is "one of those stupid conservative towns". This is in California, you know, land of the liberals. The bastion of freedom and liberty that those evil, filthy, rich, conservative Christians hate so much. Too bad it's the liberals that want government control and surveillance of the citizens.
by P0STING_AWAY November 20, 2009 6:28 AM PST
Those doggone liberal republicans (Bush / Cheney) with their MASSIVE wiretapping scheme .....
by Ralph Doctorow November 20, 2009 6:28 AM PST
Well I'm not sure which country's constitution you are referring to, but California is part of the US, and there is no such provision in the US constitution. <br /><br />Here in the US we are protected from unreasonable search and seizure but there's nothing restricting people being observed in public places. We've had police patrols of public streets for centuries and they are allowed, in fact encouraged, to look at people and their vehicles and even make notes of what they see.
by Renegade Knight November 20, 2009 8:01 AM PST
@drobosson <br /> <br />The point you just made works like this. You have the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happyness. However everthing other than you standing there nakid with your thumb up your butt is a priviledge. <br /> <br />So lets change your perspective. We all commit crimes of various degrees and magnitude. Trust me on this, since there are enough laws and conflicting laws to ensure that this is the case. In a perfect surveylence society, we would all be perfectly serving time for our crimes. <br /> <br />I don't choose to live in a surveylence society. That means that I fight it ever time it comes up as it my right.
by basraw November 20, 2009 10:39 AM PST
&gt;&gt;&gt; by P0STING_AWAY November 20, 2009 6:28 AM PST<br /> Those doggone liberal republicans (Bush / Cheney) with their MASSIVE wiretapping scheme ....&lt;&lt;&lt;<br /><br />and obama has done nothing to put an end to it!!!
by avitous November 21, 2009 12:47 PM PST
I claim the right to keep a shotgun or other armaments in my bedroom to defend myself against those neighbors who actively prove themselves unworthy of my trust.
by Renegade Knight November 24, 2009 11:35 AM PST
@Endbringer <br /> <br />Conservatives used to be against this kind of police power. It was conservatives who brought you the "Patriot Act" and all the nasty abuse that brings to bear. Worse the liberals upon assuming power KEPT up this right wing way of thinking by not dispaning the DOHS or the Anti-Patriot Act.
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by gerrrg November 19, 2009 8:00 PM PST
Curious...Will anyone convicted of a white-collar crime be seen in the same light as those who were convicted of a blue-collar crime? Or will they just be used to chase out gang-bangers while the Madoffs get around?
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by perfectblue97 November 24, 2009 9:14 AM PST
Gang bangers tend to kill more people and to have worse lobbies, so the answer's a given.
by Jack K1 November 19, 2009 8:03 PM PST
Look up the word privacy in the U.S. Constitution. Good luck. It isn't there.
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by uthene254 November 20, 2009 8:15 AM PST
You're correct; it's not. However, the Supreme Court has held that there is an implied right to privacy in various parts of the Constitution (notably the fourth amendment). Of course, that right to privacy does not apply when there is no expectation of privacy, such as your car's location when you are driving in public.
by BeamerMT November 19, 2009 8:09 PM PST
At first I wanted to type out how its an invasion of privacy and blah blah. But honestly, if you go into any big city (even my big/small town) there are cameras on the stop lights that monitor the intersections. I think if used properly, they could enhance the safety of the roadways. This system does not, however, sound like it does anything to enhance safety.
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by Renegade Knight November 20, 2009 8:02 AM PST
Most of those cameras are tied to the signals. They can see cars (and motorcycles) better than the magnetic loops that they replace. <br /> <br />That said even though most of them only serve that function, it's not that hard to hook them up to other things as well.
by celticbrewer November 20, 2009 12:32 PM PST
Pretty much every business has a camera. Every gas station has your license plate on video. Every time you use your credit card, your cell phone, use easypass/fastlane at a toll booth, cross the border, etc... you're being tracked. <br /> <br />This mean nothing! The big question is what do the authorities plan to do with the information? The only thing they can reasonably do is check to see if the plate or car is stolen, or if it's tied to someone who has a warrant out. Maybe check to see if they're registered as a sex offender or have a suspended license? I don't really have a problem with them doing that. <br /> <br />What you do in public, is.. well, public. If they catch you doing something illegal and that bothers you, then you have to change the law- not whine about getting caught.
by Endbringer November 23, 2009 5:33 AM PST
Renegade Knight is correct. Most of those cameras are infrared cameras only. Most of them you can't even see a video feed of it. All they do is replace the magnetic loops that are sawed into the pavement.<br /><br />That being said, a lot of cities are now putting up those red light cameras. Our city just passed an ordinance to install red light cameras at four intersections. I'm personally against these because as a citizen I cannot confront my accuser in a court of law because the accuser is an inanimate object.
by PandaSage1221 November 19, 2009 9:00 PM PST
I feel like maybe it should.. but this really doesn't bother me. Seems like a small community has the right to do that if they choose.
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by Renegade Knight November 20, 2009 8:04 AM PST
The part that bothes me is the automation of justice. "Here is your ticket, you were speeding and ran a red light, please pay your fine, and you now have 4 points against your record, thank you and hav a nice day". Great but they forgot to notice that I had loaned the car to my buddy. They actually modify laws to make the owner responsible and not the driver who did the infraction.
by pw1y November 19, 2009 9:11 PM PST
If I lived there I would have been burned to death long ago.
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by grinningevild November 19, 2009 10:00 PM PST
I guess if your car gets ripped of there you'll get a picture of the thief?
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by ljj101 November 19, 2009 11:27 PM PST
... or at least have a photo to remember it by :-)
by tonyDAE November 19, 2009 10:38 PM PST
Safety? Hasn't this police chief heard of stolen cars or stolen license plates? Criminals who intend to commit crimes often either steal cars to do it (instead of driving their own cars - makes sense - they're already criminals) or, even easier, they go into the Walmart or Target parking lot and steal someone's license plate. They put the stolen plate on the car and, even if a witness records the plate number it gets traced back to some poor schmuck who had nothing to do with the crime. If the people in Tiburon had any sense, they would have done this in closed session and kept it out of the newspapers. Of course, most criminals aren't that smart and probably don't read the papers, watch the news, or read CNET, but if they did, they could rest easy knowing that there isn't a lot of serious police work happening in Tiburon.
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by Splashes November 19, 2009 11:59 PM PST
Your first line of reasoning was correct. Politicians are almost universally unfamiliar with the law of unintended consequences. They pass laws assuming that criminals won't change their MO, and many times the cure is worse than the disease.<br /><br />Yes, some teenage amateurs will get busted, but the professionals will quickly adapt.
by Splashes November 19, 2009 11:50 PM PST
We'd be even safer if our every thought was recorded and compared against a government-sanctioned list of approved thoughts.<br /><br />I'm certain that what I'm thinking right now didn't make the list.
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by A41202813 November 20, 2009 4:15 PM PST
That Is The Best Privacy Argument I Have Ever Read.<br /><br />Thank You.
by sythara November 20, 2009 12:09 AM PST
Wow, all these people here raving about privacy. <br /> <br />That town should put up a sign that says you're plate will be recorded and checked against records. That gives you an opportunity to turn around and not enter the town, or enter it knowing that you were recorded. <br /> <br />If you don't like it, don't go there. If towns residents don't like it, they should say something. If the town agrees to do it, it is their choice. I wonder how long before ACLU gets involved because criminal's rights are being violated.
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by pjhenry1216 November 20, 2009 3:48 AM PST
@sythara: criminal's rights shouldn't be violated. if you're willing to violate a criminal's rights, well, you're willing to violate an innocent one's as well. plenty of innocent people have been convicted of crimes they didn't commit. yet, you'd be apparently willing to just take away their rights because of some sort of prejudice. everyone has rights whether you like that individual or not. are you going to start saying we should take away the rights of some folks simply because you think they're bad and nothing else? where do you draw the line between who is allowed to have rights and who isn't.<br /><br />it's easy to say you believe in protecting people's rights. its another thing entirely when you're willing to stand up for the rights of someone you don't like. that's where one can tell your level of integrity. if you're not willing to do so, obviously you're just spouting hot air and don't have much integrity at all.<br /><br />back to the point at hand though, i'm not extremely upset about this situation. i think its pointless and should go away, but i don't think it'll hurt anything. they'll just have a good estimate of what cars are in their town (note, it will *not* give them a good estimate of *who* is in the town).
by Renegade Knight November 20, 2009 8:07 AM PST
That gives you a chance to pull over take the plate off the silver honda you parked next too and put it on your silver honda you just stole assuming you didn't already do that. <br /> <br />The law punishes the innocent. It's the person who's ex got 200 parking tickets and neglected to mention who's going to get "busted".
by weegg November 20, 2009 6:13 AM PST
Given the layout of cities and real lack of true mass-transit (sorry Metro doesn't cut it) in California, driving should be considered a right.
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by Renegade Knight November 20, 2009 8:07 AM PST
Even if it's not a right, crappy development of our towns for the past 80 years or more has resulted in it being a neccesity.
by libertyforall1776 November 20, 2009 7:05 AM PST
First it was red light cameras, now this?! It is a page right out of socialist England. Enough is enough -- get active and protest at your local board meetings and consider boycotting towns that do this. Move out and don't shop there... No 1984.
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by marketingdork2117 November 20, 2009 7:23 AM PST
US citizens should demand that ALL politicians wear GPS devices that monitor their movement. We know politicians can't be trusted, so this will be a good way to keep them honest. Also, we should video tape and photograph cops more often. This way, there is a system of checks and balances.
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by kstjohn November 20, 2009 9:23 AM PST
Not the first. http://www.seattlepi.com/local/410180_medina15.html
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by ledhead1962 November 20, 2009 10:53 AM PST
The problem isn't the ability to do this it is who is checking and why. We all know that, inevitably, there will be abuses of the system by law enforcement. Personally I find the potential for official abuse totally frightening. The world is not a safe place, never will be, and, in my opinion, our strident attempts to make it so gravely threaten personal freedom.
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by renGek November 20, 2009 11:16 AM PST
It amazes me how people (you and I) get into uproars over privacy and big brother and evil corporations. But yet, WE are the ones who upload tons of videos of someone stumbling around the street drunk, when there is a car accident, when someone looks ridiculous in public and we are the ones with webcams sticking out of our homes aimed at street corners. And we are the ones who run in packs to youtube to watch these videos.<br /><br />How can you complain about rights violation and privacy invasion and we are the ones who made it popular.
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by perfectblue97 November 24, 2009 9:00 AM PST
Osama Bin Laden supposedly hates freedom, and wants to take it away. Yet more has been done by state and federal governments to take away the freedom of the American people than Bin Laden could ever do.
by Get_Bent November 20, 2009 11:19 AM PST
This is no different than stationing police cars at every entrance road, calling in and checking license plate numbers. The simple solution is for all non-residents to stay out of Tiburon. It won't take long for the business owners to start complaining about the drop in their income. When they realize that the cameras are to blame, they'll petition the town council to remove them.<br /><br />One question: What about people arriving by boat? Are the resident control freaks going to photograph them, too?
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by November 23, 2009 4:10 PM PST
&gt; What about people arriving by boat? Are the resident control freaks going to photograph them, too?<br /><br />That's what the other two cameras are for. Two roads - one camera pointing each way to record front and back plates and when a car leaves. Two cameras at the docks. Helicopters, however, are still untracked.
by M3 Sweatt November 20, 2009 11:19 AM PST
As noted in the comments, this isn't the first: the local town of Medina, WA (near Bellevue) installed cameras that capture the plates of every car that enters the city limits, and supported by many city residents. (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/410180_medina15.html) More on this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_number_plate_recognition.
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by HenryTheShark November 20, 2009 11:26 AM PST
If you live in California or ever visit, you need to know how to deal with Snitch Tickets, fake/phishing red light camera tickets sent out by some California police departments to fool the registered owner into ID'ing the actual driver of the car. (Unlike most other states, where camera tickets are "owner responsibility," California's camera tickets are "driver responsibility" so the police have to identify the driver. And, ouor tickets are about $500 plus a point on your license. Welcome to California!) There are 30+ California cities using Snitch Tickets. Snitch Tickets haven't been filed with the court so they don't say "Notice to Appear," don't have the court's address, and say (on the back, in small letters), "Do not contact the court." Since they have NOT been filed with the court, they have no legal weight. You can, and should ignore a Snitch Ticket. If in doubt, Google the term.
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