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September 10, 2009 11:44 AM PDT

Top boxer threatens Facebook over hate groups

by Chris Matyszczyk
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Boxing's popularity seems to have been overtaken by such pleasures as mixed martial arts and American Idol over the last few years. This doesn't seem to have discouraged Facebook users from forming groups around their love of expressing hate for certain boxers.

According to the Telegraph, WBA World light-welterweight champion Amir Khan, a Briton of Pakistani heritage, has decided to threaten the social-networking company with legal action over some of these Facebook groups.

Together with his manager, Frank Warren, Khan has employed legal counsel after so far failing to persuade Facebook to take down so-called hate groups aimed at him. These groups, in the view of Khan and Warren, made racist and defamatory comments about the boxer.

Khan and Warren complain that they have so far received only standard acknowledgments from Facebook and have therefore employed the law firm Lupton Fawcett.

"The problem is, when you search for a celebrity on the site, you also come across pages using the celebrity's name and image that have no official link but in some instances are full of defamatory and illegal content," according to a quote in the Guardian of Lupton Fawcett's Stephen Taylor Heath.

Khan is a somewhat-polarizing figure in British sports. However, it is perhaps surprising just how many Facebook hate groups there are aimed at him. I counted more than 20.

Does he know there appear to be 1,600 "Hate MySpace" Facebook groups?

(Credit: Cc Deneyterrio/Flickr)

Facebook's terms of service are very clear about hate: "You will not post content that is hateful, threatening, pornographic, or that contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence." So perhaps it's hard to understand how the company can allow so many groups that claim they hate Amir Khan in their very name.

One can, of course, argue that you can say you hate a sportsman, in the sense that the mere sight of them arouses unpleasant thoughts (for some, David Beckham, for others, the German national soccer team). One doesn't necessarily wish that person or those persons harm.

Indeed, when one goes through the Amir Khan hate groups, the vast majority seem to dislike Khan for his attitude, for only fighting (in their opinion) boxers of a poor level and for his lack of boxing skill.

Much of the tone and content, however, is undoubtedly abusive, and there are suggestions of racist overtones in certain comments. Khan's lawyers say they are specifically focusing on material that they believe is defamatory or racist.

This case lends further indication that many interpretations Facebook makes of content on its site are highly subjective. In removing some Holocaust denial groups and one Muslim-hating group, Facebook made it clear that it made its own judgments on what should be considered hateful speech.

It will be interesting how far Khan's lawyers are prepared to push their case. It will also be interesting whether other sporting personalities will join together in attempting to remove potentially defamatory content from Facebook and other sites.

While it seems almost comical that there appear to be 1,600 Facebook groups that profess to hate MySpace, there are only 54 that claim to hate David Beckham, and only one Facebook group appears when you search for "I hate the German football team."

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by UnlabledMilk September 10, 2009 11:59 AM PDT
If he wins the case, I think all the people in those groups ought to be punished by a fight with Khan himself.

Y'know, so they can experience firsthand his 'poor boxing.'
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by mrcjacobs September 10, 2009 12:04 PM PDT
I think he's a p****y that should be happy that anyone even knows who the hell he is and bothers to voice their dislike of him.
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by sciontcya September 10, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
Yup.
by TEENAGEMUTANTNINJATURTLES September 11, 2009 2:22 AM PDT
Americans see hate, and racism as freedom of speech. Don't you know that by now? Nobody can say that American troops are murdering innocent people, but if you say that blacks are all criminals, then that is perfectly fine, and we can all continue to eat our apple pies.
by myndcrym September 10, 2009 12:05 PM PDT
KKKKHHHHHHAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!
...sorry, i had to do that.
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by protagonistic--2008 September 10, 2009 4:07 PM PDT
Aye Captain Kirk. :-)
by sgrmba September 12, 2009 5:50 PM PDT
Thank you - unexpected yet clean levity is always appreciated.
by Button Boy September 10, 2009 12:12 PM PDT
Facebook? is that still relevant?
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by zmjman08 September 10, 2009 12:15 PM PDT
what planet are you on?
by ikramerica--2008 September 10, 2009 11:25 PM PDT
Earth. In the last few months I've noticed a decrease in activity among my friends. Now only a few post regularly, most others have realized it's lame...
by sodapop2k9 September 10, 2009 12:19 PM PDT
Racist hate speech sucks, but why should FB take it down. People have a right to say what they want.
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by inachu1 September 10, 2009 1:33 PM PDT
If speech is protected then there should be a .gov website BBS chatroom/messageboard to let people voice their opinion directly with the USA govt and no message deletion will be made unless threats made or porn was posted.

Really sick of any deletion ever made on the internet. When somethign is deleted that just means they can't back up their data or have a yellow belly.

Maybe one day.
by Akiba September 10, 2009 2:16 PM PDT
People have a right to say what they want, but they don't have a right to post whatever they want on any website, at least not without being banned or having the content deleted. Free speech doesn't mean that your speech must be maintained on someone else's website. Also there are benefits to having a reasonable amount of regulation or you end up with too much spam, flaming and harassment.

FB should only take racist speech down if they want to, it's their site. However, they should consider the ramifications of allowing or banning such content when making that decision. I'm not sure what the benefits are to allowing racist speech on FB outside of conversations between friends.
by protagonistic--2008 September 10, 2009 4:09 PM PDT
True, and the object of it has a right to sue. I say let the courts decide it. They aren't any good at punishing criminals so maybe they can get this right. :-)
by mc321 September 11, 2009 8:32 PM PDT
Because it is in Facebooks terms and conditions that it will not tolorate any abuse or racist abuse directed towards anyone, any such content will be removed...It states. Thats why Facebook should take it down. So yes people have the right to say what they want but in an appropiate place, Facebook clearly is not going by there conditions. People have the right to say what they want in the street outside my home, but once inside my home they haven't. Times and places
by SteveWineberg September 10, 2009 12:19 PM PDT
I don't apparently feel QUITE as strongly about it as mrcjacobs, but... seriously... who?
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by tundraboy September 10, 2009 12:50 PM PDT
Good luck convincing the ethically clueless Facebook brass to do the right thing. Just take a look at Facebook's history from its inceptio, through the repeated mishandling of privacy issues. This company has no ethical rudder. Why anyone would entrust their personal information with FB totally eludes me.
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by Pete Bardo September 10, 2009 12:52 PM PDT
These groups can call him a jackass all day long without breaking any laws. Any publicity is better than no publicity--and now he has some! Game on.
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by wangbang September 10, 2009 1:18 PM PDT
He's overrated just like his fellow Brit Ricky Hatton. As soon as they face legitimate opponents, Brits always land on their backs.
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by superblue32 September 10, 2009 1:41 PM PDT
Brits like Joe Calzaghe ?

lazy stereotyping fella.
by batemanjo9 September 10, 2009 1:42 PM PDT
FB should not do anything. This dude needs to stop crying.
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by Havoc70 September 10, 2009 1:43 PM PDT
Hmm this guy must be really good......NOT, Anyone know who this whiner is ?

I sure dont, never heard his name before
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by farker1 September 12, 2009 4:56 PM PDT
You've heard of Cnet, clearly. Cnet is on this thing called the Internet. And the Internet is connected to sometihng called THE REST OF THE WORLD. Perhaps instead of presenting your ignorance as a virtue, you could actually try to learn something. After all, Khan is a WBA world title holder. Just google it. And stop embodying the worst of the American spirit.
by superblue32 September 10, 2009 1:46 PM PDT
Inciting racial hatred is a crime in the UK, so they could potentially be forced to block them appearing to UK web users
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by ikramerica--2008 September 10, 2009 11:27 PM PDT
Yep. It's not an international case, but one of UK (and EU) law that makes this sort of stuff illegal. So if FB wants to operate in these countries (allow their citizens to join and post) they will have to abide by the laws there. Like it or not, speech is NOT free in Europe...
by barnesy180 September 10, 2009 4:27 PM PDT
na he is a gd boxer so is ricky hatton u imagin if u ad to face any of them in the ring , well then racist comments shudnt b alowwed , the onli reason people mock him as they are either jelous wanab boxers who are s*it or are jelous of his succes so what he lost a fight most boxers do he dosnt make remarks about any of ur not so succecful storys so y shud he b descriminated
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by emma_blue_eyes September 10, 2009 5:13 PM PDT
hatton and khan are amazin fighters, whats this bout british bein sh*t? lol grow up you jealous c*nts... love to see u take a punch off one of em, cranks.
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by vallejoarmy September 10, 2009 8:50 PM PDT
I can't speak for any other country but here in the U.S. we have this little thing called freedom of speech.
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by SebDavies September 12, 2009 7:30 AM PDT
This little thing you call freedom of speech comes with restrictions. Its nice you know one tiny bit of the constitutuion, but you cant use it as excuse to allow racism.
by faceless128 September 10, 2009 9:27 PM PDT
They should take down racist stuff, but keep all the stuff up where people say he sucks as a Boxer and only fights opponents that he knows he can beat.
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by NikEst September 11, 2009 12:01 PM PDT
The thing is, if Facebook takes it down, it will go up somewhere else. That's the beauty of the internet. People need to chill.

I'm not saying being racist is ok. I think it speaks to the age of the person, but if it's online, let it go.
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by SebDavies September 12, 2009 7:19 AM PDT
Its sad to see comments which focus on the person and free speech. Aint the real subject racism and how it shouldnt be allowed a place on facebook.
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by desmo916 September 15, 2009 6:15 PM PDT
I know who Amir Khan is.... he was made famous by getting knocked out silly by an unknown named Breidis Prescott in about 30 seconds.
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