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September 1, 2009 11:33 AM PDT

Woman fired for e-mails in all caps

by Chris Matyszczyk
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Being an accountant is hard.

You have to deal, in general, with people who can't count, can't save receipts, and then expect you to bail them out from all their troubles.

So please consider the plight of Vicki Walker, an accountant with ProCare Health in Auckland, New Zealand.

According to the trusty New Zealand Herald, ProCare, in dismissing Walker, told her that her e-mail style had caused ripples of disturbance in the serene landscape of her fellow workers' minds.

Her sins, for there were reportedly several, were that she used capital letters, bold typefaces and, perish the mere concept, red text in her e-mails.

Perhaps Walker should have just sent a nice, hand-written note.

(Credit: CC Thomas Eagle/Flickr)

Walker reacted to this dismissal with an exclamation point and some question marks. She took ProCare Health to an employment tribunal, where she was awarded 17,000 NZ dollars ($11,447) in compensation.

She told the Herald that she found it curious that ProCare Health only produced one e-mail in evidence during the proceedings.

This was not an e-mail for those of a tender disposition. It was intended to advise staff on how to fill out claim forms.

The time and date were in deep red. And one sentence was rather boldly highlighted in blue. It read: "To ensure your staff claim is processed and paid, please do follow the below checklist."

Goodness, that does seems terribly abrasive, doesn't it?

Walker had to fight hard in order to see her claim succeed. She told the Herald: "I am a single woman with a mortgage, and I had to re-mortgage my home and borrow money from my sister to make it through. They nearly ruined my life."

Perhaps it isn't all that surprising, then, that having won her case for unfair dismissal, she now reportedly intends to pursue ProCare for further compensation.

I wonder whether she'll be outlining her claims in an e-mail. Perhaps she might use bold green type.

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by Maarek Stele September 1, 2009 11:40 AM PDT
I see a fat severance paycheck coming to this person.
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by Lerianis3 September 2, 2009 2:39 AM PDT
I'm seeing this woman basically OWNING THE COMPANY (after looking at the relevant NZ laws) after this!
by symonaddington September 10, 2009 2:16 PM PDT
And if those were just the facts you could be right. As is often the case in media, not all the story is told. For example you didn't read of the Adjudicator's comments about her other contributing factors to dismissal. Nor did the report detail all of the things the company did to try and help this lady get back on side with the rest of the staff, including having an independent mediator there for a week trying to get differences resolved. The fact she refused all offers of help wasn't reported either. For some reason, apparently the Adjudiucator focused on that email (one among a bundle of some three hundred documents of evidence). In short he felt the Company should have done more. It is my understanding that the Company got to a point where they felt enough was enough and she had to go for the sake of the business and the other employees. They acknowledged there may have been deficiencies in process but were prepared to live with the consequences for the sake of peace and harmony. What is particularly interesting is that they offered her more to leave than she was later granted by the Tribunal - now there's a message.
by Perry_Clease September 1, 2009 12:07 PM PDT
Body copy in all uppercase is one thing. All uppercase in 24pt bold cyan Impact on a magenta background is another. Not mention numerous forward quotes. I wish that there was a filter for badly formatted emails. :)
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by 01Phyxius September 1, 2009 12:08 PM PDT
What the flying ****?!
If I want to use special formatting in my emails to make sure people 'get it,' I will, and if you like your emails to read like a .txt file in notepad, then that's too bad.
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by Lerianis3 September 2, 2009 2:38 AM PDT
Exactly right. Personally, I use bold, colored and 'fancy' text in my e-mails to make sure that someone gets the message about what I am telling them.

Secondly, some people INSIST on getting e-mails in all capitals, because they have ****-poor eyesight.
by sartor1 September 1, 2009 12:09 PM PDT
Geesh! I hope she can get any kind of a job after her litigation ends... unless she gets millions which I doubt she would get.. It's very sad that she was basically forced to do this. Very poor management at ProCare Health in Auckland, New Zealand!
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by EdCenter September 1, 2009 12:53 PM PDT
I think Jack K1 hit the nail on the head when he said that this was probably an employee they did not want to keep and the email was just an excuse to terminate her. Chances are, you probably don't want to be her coworker.
by Lerianis3 September 2, 2009 2:37 AM PDT
EdCenter, get real. The fact is that I have seen VERY good workers fired for the flimsiest of reasons because a manager 'didn't like them'. It does NOT mean that this woman ia a bad worker, bad co-worker, etc.

THe only people who would AUTOMATICALLY assume that it has to be something like that...... are the TRUE people who are 'bad co-workers' in most cases because they automatically think of their OWN behavior at work.
by walto034 September 2, 2009 6:00 AM PDT
I'm with EdCenter and Jack K1.

I bet this was just their excuse to get rid of her. Would you want to work with someone so condescending that they feel they need to send out an email like that to people? I have a coworker like that and I've told management that I will never work on a project with her again. The funny thing is that everyone on a project with her has told management the same thing. Basically, that puts them in a position to decide whether they would rather keep three productive employee or one semi-productive employee.
by Jack K1 September 1, 2009 12:11 PM PDT
Sounds like she's not wanted. It's probably something else entirely. She should take the hint.
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by jc364 September 1, 2009 1:02 PM PDT
That's how I interpreted this situation as well. The company was probably looking for a reason to fire her.

Unless, of course, she used blinking text in all caps... then she totally deserved it ;)
by talking poo September 1, 2009 1:32 PM PDT
My thoughts exactly. Read between the lines people.

By her reaction to her firing--quick litigation, melodramatic response, bad financial situation--point to all signs of her not being a good employee.

How you type is indicative to what kind of person you are.
by Lerianis3 September 2, 2009 2:35 AM PDT
talking poo, get real. In a case like this, would YOU not file a lawsuit against the company for an illegitimate termination? I know I damned well would! So would anyone else who I know!

This woman is NOT the one in the wrong here, it is her EMPLOYER who is in the wrong, and they rightly got ************ for it.
by b_baggins September 2, 2009 7:50 AM PDT
@Lerianis,

On the contrary. The employer probably sat down and figured it as follows:

Manager 1 "This employee is a nightmare. We need to fire her."
Manager 2 "If we do, she'll sue and we'll have to pay some sort of fine."
Manager 1 "How much would it be?"
Manager 2 "Probably no more than $15,000"
Manager 1 "If it gets rid of her for good, it's worth it. Find some reason to can her."
by 3tire September 4, 2009 8:55 AM PDT
I think it is pretty obvious that this was a way to get rid of an employee they did not want. Seems they could have waited for better excuses or maybe more instances. I guess they couldn't wait?
Emails of this type can be pretty obnoxious and counter productive. Makes we wonder about her face to face interactions with her co-workers.
by ralfthedog September 4, 2009 10:11 AM PDT
"talking poo, get real. In a case like this, would YOU not file a lawsuit against the company for an illegitimate termination? I know I damned well would! So would anyone else who I know!"

Please remind me not to hire you.

Thanks!
by bookshire September 1, 2009 12:16 PM PDT
While receiving email typed in all caps is annoying to me, I certainly would never call for somebody to be fired over it, even if they did it repeatedly. If somebody was hypersensetive to stuff they like, they should've canned them, not her.
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by sbwinn September 1, 2009 12:17 PM PDT
Yes, the company acted stupidly, but "They nearly ruined my life"? Just what does it take to "ruin" someone's life these days? People get fired all the time for all sorts of reasons. Must be a lot of ruined lives out there. If getting fired from a stupid company is the worst thing that ever happens to you be VERY VERY GRATEFUL.
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by thatstrifling September 1, 2009 12:52 PM PDT
I'll assume she was exaggerating to some extent when she said 'They nearly ruined my life' but is it that far fetched to think losing one's job could ruin your life? Why don't you ask all of the people who've lost their job during the recent downturn how things are going? I'm sure some people are getting by but what about the rest who suddenly can't make their mortgage payment or put food on their table? Sure, there are worse things in life than just losing a job but sometimes that's how it all starts.
by Renegade Knight September 1, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
When it comes to heaping massive heart attack causing, heath ruining, stress on a person, being fired is right up there at the top of the list. Ruin her life? Maybe not. Cost her a few years of her life? Probably so.
by freemarket--2008 September 1, 2009 1:28 PM PDT
Actually, it's people's inability to practice moderation and prepare for the unexpected that ruins their lives. You can pay the piper a little bit at a time or pay him all at once, but pay you will.
by Lerianis3 September 2, 2009 2:33 AM PDT
Actually, this COULD very well, in this job climate, 'ruin her life' by making it hard or impossible for her to get another job.
by Paneno September 2, 2009 12:36 PM PDT
She said, I am a single woman with a mortgage, and I had to re-mortgage my home and borrow money from my sister to make it through. They nearly ruined my life." Note she said nearly. This was probably caused by the monetory issue. I'm sure she is happy to be out of there.
by gggg sssss September 2, 2009 5:16 PM PDT
a job for life is not a right. At least it should not be.
by tyshockner September 1, 2009 12:55 PM PDT
Wow, it's called verbal warning the 1st time, write-up second time, then you fire!

Those in management should always run by those rules. Especially if it's something as small as that.
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by Lerianis3 September 2, 2009 2:32 AM PDT
Actually, for something as small as this, it should be "Nothing done to person because manager and recievers of e-mail are being asshats!"
by mmichaels September 1, 2009 12:55 PM PDT
I rarely find a CNET article that I really enjoy. But when you said "Walker reacted to this dismissal with an exclamation point and some question marks", I had to laugh. Very witty indeed!
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by cvaldes1831 September 1, 2009 1:14 PM PDT
AWESOME
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by markkp September 1, 2009 1:15 PM PDT
Being from New Zealand, this is hardly surprising that they sacked her over something as stupid as that.

Employers in NZ have no spine and resort to bullying and scare tactics rather than deal with an issue in a civilized way - or make the issue bigger than it actually is - then fire the person - Then end up in court having to pay out compensation!
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by dowell100 September 1, 2009 1:23 PM PDT
Kiwis are an odd lot, being the poor cuzzies of the Auzzies and all. Some are so odd they waste a lot of time writing emails with caps and color, others are so odd they fire people for doing that. An odd lot those Kiwis. But she'll be right, 'mate. At the end of the day.
by jaguar717 September 1, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
Get rid of the entitled princess, and every other illiterate who uses "should of", "suppose to", "I seen", or "then" for "than".
by inachu1 September 1, 2009 2:30 PM PDT
PEOPLE WHO ARE SENSITIVE TO CAPS ARE THE ONES WHO GREW UP IN CHAT ROOMS ARE ARE EMO LOSERS..............
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by bbaker2580 September 5, 2009 11:38 PM PDT
all-cap users are the on-line equivelent of nose-pickers
by stylingonyou September 1, 2009 3:46 PM PDT
Ha, only a female could feel she is perfectly in the right when it comes to ignoring or being conveniently ignorant of standard workplace etiquette and practice. She should have saved the pizazz for when she's making sammiches for her litter of household cats
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by Lerianis3 September 2, 2009 2:31 AM PDT
Maybe you should have actually READ THE DAMNED ARTICLE before posting such an asinine statement. Enough said!
by Devo2011 September 2, 2009 6:57 AM PDT
Though that "sammiches" line was incredibly sexist, that's the best laugh I've had all day. With that said, no, she should not have been fired. But when I receive a work e-mail with any of those casual, and generally irritating, styles I immediately think "wow, that is inappropriate and unprofessional."
by Rod Roddy September 1, 2009 5:23 PM PDT
CAPS RULE
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by owen66 September 1, 2009 5:42 PM PDT
CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
by gggg sssss September 1, 2009 6:02 PM PDT
SINGLE WOMAN. BOO F'n HOO
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by wlau September 1, 2009 6:50 PM PDT
Beats people insist on using flowery patterned stationary backgrounds on emails. You are sending a business email - black on white, short and simple is the best. I do agree this is a bit of overreaction by the employer. You have to see the emails I get from customers in China - funky fonts, with sections blinding in neon pink and a Hello Kitty logo next to the signature line and the sender is a guy. It's not just one guy, but everyone there does that. It seems like a culture thing.
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by walto034 September 2, 2009 5:56 AM PDT
Thank You! I hate it when people use that stupid stationary as their background. My thought every time is "Are you 12?"

I actually use a very dark blue on white instead. It's actually a little easier on the eyes when reading it, but I agree with using black on white in principal.

I hate the floral background stationary emails.
by discern September 1, 2009 7:24 PM PDT
Can I fire my boss for this?
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by scuzzy2010 September 1, 2009 9:10 PM PDT
This is indeed stupid. ProCare must be a real sh*t place to work, with incompetent managers who don't even know the proper procedure of firing someone. She should have been awarded much more than that.
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by hernan1304 September 1, 2009 10:57 PM PDT
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR "AWESOME"
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by mollieinatl September 2, 2009 8:03 AM PDT
HA HA!!! AWESOME POST!
by Netteligent September 2, 2009 2:23 AM PDT
She must done something to offend her incompetent managerat ProCare Health in Auckland, New Zealand. They just wait for a little chance to get rid of her. Human Resource is always taking side with managers and protect company.
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by Lerianis3 September 2, 2009 2:30 AM PDT
That is the reason why we need STRONG worker protection laws that do not allow someone to be fired unless there is a big justification for doing so. I also find it odd that they only exposed ONE e-mail.... that probably lost them their damned case in itself. ProCare Health.should have KNOWN that one e-mail would not be enough.
by b_baggins September 2, 2009 7:47 AM PDT
I find it interesting that the worker is always assumed to be the innocent aggrieved party. It's not surprising though; it's just yet another expression of the envy that oozes from most people.
by gggg sssss September 2, 2009 5:19 PM PDT
Because HR is PAID by management. What part oif that is HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
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