August 27, 2009 5:53 PM PDT

Climate change supercomputer a top U.K. polluter

by Chris Matyszczyk
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It always happens when you try to do some good, doesn't it?

You try to help an old lady cross the road, and she looks at you harshly and says, "So I look old to you?" You tell that special someone that you love her, and she tells you that she's actually enjoying the company of your best friend.

Such is the painful, ironic circumstance at the United Kingdom's Met Office. ("Met" is short for "meteorological.")

You see, according to the Daily Mail, the agency's large weather brains decided to invest in an even larger IBM brain in order to accurately predict gaseous happenings of climate change.

I have no reason to believe these miserable wet people are from the Department of Communities and Local Government.

(Credit: CC Stevie-B/Flickr)

This metal mastermind can make a quadrillion calculations in the time in takes you to utter a consonant. In the technical world, this is "petaflop" performance. But it might as well have been a Fosbury Flop to some buzz killers.

For along came some bureaucrats from the Department of Communities and Local Government, declaring that the incredibly intelligent hulk is one of the worst polluters in the United Kingdom. For some reason, they were looking at the emissions in all of the nation's public edifices.

All right, so the climate-calculating colossus produces about 75 percent of its own carbon footprint. I fancy that there are several members of Parliament who may do the same. And the supercomputer really can see into the future, whereas some members may not be able to see much beyond lunch.

The beautifully named Barry Grommett from the Met Office told the Mail: "We would be throwing ourselves back into the Dark Ages of weather forecasting, if we withdrew our reliance on supercomputing. It's as simple as that."

Quite. The U.K. bureaucrats have done so much in their attempt to return to the Dark Ages (before climate change?) that the weather men must make a stand.

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by gwailo247 August 27, 2009 6:46 PM PDT
Why don't they just spend some money on carbon offsets? This way you can keep polluting with a clean conscience.
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by SteveMcQwark August 27, 2009 6:46 PM PDT
What do you mean by "the climate-calculating colossus produces about 75 percent of its own carbon footprint?"
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by UpajOs August 27, 2009 10:00 PM PDT
Who knows? This carbon footprint stuff was invented by Al Gore -- you know, the guy who also invented the Internet.
by dowell100 August 28, 2009 9:33 AM PDT
Does Matyszczyk read his own stuff? This "colossus produces about 75 percent of its own carbon footprint" seems to be nonsense.

Wake me just before the culminating event of the climate change apocalypse. I want to see if the world ends in a bang or a whimper. But don't bother me about it in the meantime--no one can do anything to change it.
by petitbrilliance August 28, 2009 4:29 PM PDT
epic fail.
by warpsix August 27, 2009 7:46 PM PDT
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by SteveMcQwark August 27, 2009 8:38 PM PDT
I didn't know Deep Thought was built by IBM...
by upuaut August 27, 2009 11:49 PM PDT
Deep Thought was invented by SNL
by SteveMcQwark August 28, 2009 3:08 PM PDT
Wrong
by UpajOs August 27, 2009 9:22 PM PDT
Enough of this carbon footprint nonsense, already! Climatologists (the real scientists, that is, not the buffoons with degrees in non-related fields) have known for quite some time that global warming causes a rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide, and not the other way around. In other words, carbon dioxide is a lagging indicator and is entirely useless for predicting global warming. Global warming and cooling are caused almost entirely by fluctuations in The Sun's radiation. Moreover, Ice Ages have occurred about every 11,500 years since the creation of The Earth, and we're living at the end of one of these interglacial periods now. We should expect to see global COOLING over the next few decades, and, indeed, measurements indicate that over the last 10-20 years average temperatures around the world have begun to fall very slightly. Care to move 1000 km toward the equator, anyone ... ?

Also, speaking of supercomputer modeling and such, has anyone noticed that since their debut the weather is now accurately forecast as much as three days in advance? Hey, wait a minute! They were doing that in the 1940's, before the advent of digital computers of any kind! So, if we can't predict the weather more than three days in advance, why do we put so much stock in predicting the climate decades or centuries in the future, based on computer models? Is mankind stupid, or what?
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by global-warming_is_BS August 27, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
oh, quit making sense and follow the rest of the sheeple...
by William Crow August 27, 2009 10:44 PM PDT
UpajOs,
Forget your fact based, common sense explanation of what is going on. The carbon footprint, climate change thing was never about climate change or carbon footprints - its about socialism and controlling other people's behavior.
This situation is very similar the old 55 mile per hour speed limit. It wasn't feasible, drove people crazy and accomplished nothing but various parties were emotionally tied into it - just as socialists, and eco-alarmists, and other groups that have a need for control over other peoples. And then there are those that, deep down, want to be controlled.
Oddly, though it was without merit what so ever, the 55 mph speed limit died a slow death just as we are seeing with the "global warming," no, wait, "climate change" hoax.
by odubtaig August 28, 2009 1:49 AM PDT
So, given all the heliocentric cycles (including the Milankovitch cycles and the one he missed) how should the Earth's eccentricity, tilt, procession, precession, inclination and position in relation to the solar equator be affecting the global temperature and what is the level of solar radiation received at 65 degrees Longtitude?

Seeing as you obviously know so much.
by Magallanes August 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT
ok, i get it :FOX NEWS.
by EvanSei August 27, 2009 10:42 PM PDT
I wonder if they figure the pollution of the supercomputer into their models, do we have less time than we think? Oh and if you guys over their in England are feeling a bit guilty for killing us all with that polluting monster of a machine I would be more that happy to take it off your hands, I will trade you strait across for my HP seems fair right?
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by odubtaig August 28, 2009 1:58 AM PDT
Sorry, you're using the Daily Mail as a source? That's like trusting Uri Geller on the Lizard Men issue.
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by sharpestsharpy August 28, 2009 11:18 AM PDT
Too true...
by Magallanes August 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT
Soon :a blogger married with bigfoot.
by John Sawyer August 28, 2009 6:22 AM PDT
"produces about 75 percent of its own carbon footprint"

Wouldn't anything that produces a carbon footprint, be responsible for producing 100% of its own carbon footprint? How could any part of something's carbon footprint, be produced by anything else? A carbon footprint produced by something else, would by definition be produced by that something else.

Sorry to be so didactic, but you know.
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by cggkevin August 28, 2009 6:26 AM PDT
For all the supercomputers used in weather forecasting today, they still can't tell me when I'm going to get some rain at my house so they seem to be a real waste of money and carbon emmisions to me.
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by irdac August 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT
The Met Office had an earlier computer which they alleged could allow them to produce accurate forecasts for five days ahead so the current one should be better. Now they broadcast weather forecasts on TV for the next three or four days but the forecast for the third and fourth days are more often wrong than right.
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by kpcar August 30, 2009 1:21 AM PDT
Reminds me of Al Gore driving and flying all over the world telling everyone that using fossil fuels is evil . . .
Carbon footprint indeed . . .
Carbon Credits anyone?
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by pdtmusic September 1, 2009 9:36 PM PDT
"And the supercomputer really can see into the future."

Who are these people that believe this? Are you kidding? Has Asimov's Foundation Trilogy come true? Um, actually, that's not science, that would be SCIENCE FICTION. Here's a question. What has computer modeling been used longer for, predicting global climate, or sports outcomes? And we're supposed to believe anyone can see 20, 50, 100 years into the future? Seriously, think for 2 seconds - do you believe we can see into the future? Really?
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by pdtmusic September 1, 2009 9:36 PM PDT
"And the supercomputer really can see into the future."

Who are these people that believe this? Are you kidding? Has Asimov's Foundation Trilogy come true? Um, actually, that's not science, that would be SCIENCE FICTION. Here's a question. What has computer modeling been used longer for, predicting global climate, or sports outcomes? And we're supposed to believe anyone can see 20, 50, 100 years into the future? Seriously, think for 2 seconds - do you believe we can see into the future? Really?
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by akuenn September 2, 2009 7:37 AM PDT
Umm, love the whole concept of it being so bad...

Just use freaking wind energy. Problem solved. No, it's not perfect, but wind, solar, or geothermal would solve a LARGE portion of the problem.
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