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June 20, 2009 8:05 PM PDT

At Craigslist 'camp,' Facebook takes on Twitter

by Chris Matyszczyk
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Connect. Inspire. Act. These three words were engraved on my invitation to Craigslist Foundation Boot Camp.

It was Saturday, and I was a little tired. So I was barely in the mood to connect with the daylight, never mind offering it inspiration.

However, I arrived just at the moment when inspiration was being served. In a large outdoor tent in Berkeley, Calif., about 1,500 people who had come together to make communities matter listened as a nice lady from the Craigslist Foundation said that everyone was about to network with the person immediately to their right.

She then asked those persons immediately to their right to score them out of 10--although she insisted that if you only got a 2 it didn't mean your pitch was terrible.

The secret of the networking pitch is, apparently, enthusiasm. So in order to demonstrate, a Berkeley student named Olga was invited to the stage to pitch to Facebook marketing director Randi Zuckerberg.

Olga had her one business card at the ready, when the nice lady announced she would be pitching to Randi's husband too. He works in venture capital, she said. So he's a good judge of pitches.

Olga didn't buckle under the binary pressure. Afterward, everyone stood up and began to pitch to the right.

A panel discussion at Boot Camp.

(Credit: CC Cambodia4kidsorg/Flickr)

At the back of the tent, it seemed as if there were a lot of short men pitching to tall women. Even volunteers were pitching to one another. At least I think they were pitching, although the hubbub bubbled so loudly that they might have been wondering about where to get a fine glass of cider.

This mixing of doing good with hard-nosed business was a curious sight. There was passion. There was belief. But at some moments, it almost felt sad that caring was now a business and that business principles needed to be enacted in order to get us pathetic, jaded humans to care and share.

Then Zuckerberg made a well-received speech about, well, how wonderful Facebook is.

She spoke of how the Obama administration had demonstrated "open government" through its embrace of the site. She spoke of how Lenny Kravitz uploads pictures of all his audiences onto his Facebook page. She spoke of how Roger Federer on Facebook really is Roger Federer. In order to emphasize this, she said, he uploaded a video of himself.

She also spoke at some length about events in Iran.

For one weak, fleeting, terrible moment, a slightly cynical drip of sweat ran down my back as I pondered whether Twitter had rather co-opted Iran (in the public eye, at least) and now Facebook was trying to get on level terms.

I let it pass--until, that is, an extremely passionate woman called Pamela Mays McDonald took the microphone to ask what the Twitter tag was for the Boot Camp, as she would like to Twitter with attendees and tell them about her new Facebook group, Hope Against Hate, that was fighting against hate-based violence and speech.

With a swift reflex reaction, Zuckerberg intoned that an alternative to Twittering might be to update your Facebook status.

For all Zuckerberg's extremely well-intentioned passion about social technology being able to bring people together in order to do good, I just wondered whether an additional advert for Facebook was really needed right there.

Especially as Mays McDonald was describing a group against hateful speech, something of a slippery area for Facebook.

This all left me with a peculiar sense that perhaps Facebook feels it needs to compete with Twitter for hearts and minds because they will, in some future way, lead to pockets.

The truth, though, as the enthusiasm and passion for so many different causes at this extraordinary day made very clear, is that we still need pockets to help us convert those hearts and minds.

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by MMcCubbing June 20, 2009 8:57 PM PDT
I don't know why the two sites should to feel much competition they fill two markets with only some overlap. Facebook is about real-world connections, and communicating in more detail, while Twitter is more about connecting with anyone, so-long as they share interesting snippets of info and news. That said I do recognize that there certainly is some, but Facebook will not fill the need for news and information from outside my circles, while Twitter will not fill my need for social contact with friends.
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by SueAnne1234 June 20, 2009 9:20 PM PDT
Great post about Randi's lunch session. I wish it had been less of a marketing pitch and more about where Facebook was going to help non-profits in the future.
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by cteague3 June 21, 2009 12:45 AM PDT
I don't get the big deal..... I Twitter my status, and it updates my Facebook status. Everyone's happy, everyone knows the same things about me, what's going on with me, etc. I can tell the whole world I'm tying my shoes and drinking a great latte thru both services at the same time...
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by danbuell June 21, 2009 3:06 AM PDT
If I had to attend a conference and look on stage to see people dressed so unprofessionally it would be really hard to take them seriously. This generation has oh so much to learn when it comes to being classy...
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by nicmart June 21, 2009 6:28 AM PDT
Twitter and Facebook are ideally suited for a nation of semi-literate, self-absorbed people with 15-word attention spans and large collections of pictures of themselves and their pets.
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by bsharkey June 21, 2009 10:25 AM PDT
Yes, but Twitter is Facebook squared, so by my estimates it's therefore at least 4x more evil.
by johnqh June 21, 2009 11:48 AM PDT
Unfortunately, it is true.

To me, all social networking is about telling others what you are, what you want, blah blah blah. All talking and no listening.

And "no listening" is the biggest problem with America, with both the country and people.

Actually, that's what people from other countries think about American.
by jchanski21 June 22, 2009 10:14 AM PDT
@johnqh

I agree that much of social networking is proclaiming "hey, listen to me, I just <insert activity>". Twitter is more this than facebook, but facebook status is essentially the same thing - just talking (and for that reason I use my facebook status oh, once every month?).

However, social networking is not all talking. One of the points of facebook is staying connected with friends and family that you don't see very often, if ever. I've gotten back in touch with friends from grade school on facebook, and "listened" to them by hearing their stories, seeing pictures of their lives, and reading about what they are up to. If they're "talking", that means someone else must be "listening", and most of the time because they want to listen. If not, remove them as a friend/block their feed/don't follow them on Twitter.
by bsharkey June 21, 2009 10:25 AM PDT
Craiglist has a Foundation? that's perhaps the most comical / eye opening part. do they delete ads for prostitutes and blow?
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by rockridge2house June 21, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
Yes, craigslist has a foundation. It's a 503c tax exempt. Craig had promised to contribute all those five dollar fees he charges the ******, to charity. I wonder if he's giving it all to his own charity - which benefits exactly who?
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by donnalynn48 June 21, 2009 6:28 PM PDT
I'm looking forward to being on cnet.
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by abu-zaid June 22, 2009 1:22 AM PDT
hello
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by abu-zaid June 22, 2009 1:25 AM PDT
hello every body
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by abu-zaid June 22, 2009 1:33 AM PDT
hello , that is very good
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