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June 11, 2009 12:30 PM PDT

Trent Reznor on social networking: I'm out

by Chris Matyszczyk

For Nine Inch Nails front man Trent Reznor, social networking is not working.

Which might seem strange to hear from a man who was presented this week with a special achievement award at the Webbys.

Still, in a blog post written Wednesday, Reznor seems to have come to an emotional fork in the road with Web 2.0. And he's decided to stick the fork in it.

"I will be tuning out of the social networking sites because at the end of the day it's now doing more harm than good in the bigger picture and the experiment seems to have yielded a result. Idiots rule," he said.

Reznor is very forthright about the kind of idiots he has in mind. For him, they have ruined the beauty of eschewing record companies in favor of direct contact with real people out there.

His first example of idiocracy are posts to the Nine Inch Nails site: "On nin.com, there's 3-4 different people that each send me between 50 - 100 message per day of delusional, often threatening nonsense. We can delete them, but they just sign back up and start again."

Trent's embrace of social networking is over.

(Credit: CC Edvill/Flickr)

Reznor's experience on Twitter sounds, if anything, even more disturbing: "Looks like the Metal Sludge contingency has discover Twitter! Finally! For those of you that don't know what this is, please let me explain. Metal Sludge is the home of the absolutely worst people I've ever come across. It's populated mainly by unattractive plump females who publicly fantasize about having sex with guys in bands."

It transpires that many of these alleged "worst people" are folks that Reznor recognizes from his shows.

"I really don't understand what kind of 'fan' spends that kind of time and money to travel across the country seeing a band, to then dedicate an incredible amount of time and energy into non-stop hate diatribes online," he said.

Humanity is not a pretty thing, Trent. Some of your music paints that at a very high level of decibel and clarity. Still, Reznor considered starting up a public forum where everyone's identity could be verified.

However, in the end, he appears to have given up on the whole social-networking thing. And he blames the lunge for lucre: "We're in a world where the mainstream social networks want any and all people to boost user numbers for the big selloff and are not concerned with the quality of experience."

Some might feel that Reznor is merely a fine expert in attracting attention.

However, when someone who has embraced modern technology with both skill and openness (his fight against the Apple Apps store approval process, for example, was extremely well-argued) turns against one of its supposedly most vital pillars, it is worth listening.

Because he just might have a point. In fact, I can't help but look at Nine Inch Nails discography and see a vivid picture of what might be the life story of social networking: "Pretty Hate Machine." "Broken." "The Downward Spiral." "The Fragile." "With Teeth." "Year Zero," "Ghosts." And, yes, that's in chronological order.

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by kcotham June 11, 2009 1:21 PM PDT
Question: Who cares what Trent Reznor thinks? Seriously, is he some sort of authority on social networking? Why should we give a rat's behind what one musician thinks?
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by The_happy_switcher June 11, 2009 1:29 PM PDT
I don't think he's claiming he's an authority--just that it attracts a lot of obsessed crack-pots who need to get a life.
by kcotham June 11, 2009 3:59 PM PDT
As are you wangbang and so is Trent Reznor, that's my point. Nitwit.
by Everlovin G June 11, 2009 6:02 PM PDT
"It is better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"     ~Abraham Lincoln

Oops, too late.
by Sam Papelbon June 11, 2009 6:06 PM PDT
so if you don't care about anybody's opinion, why are you reading blogs? just to keep up to date on the things you don't care about as told by people you don't care about?
by christo90210 June 11, 2009 6:10 PM PDT
If you take a look at what Trent Reznor has done with web 2.0, solcial networking etc., you will see that he is at the bleeding edge with it. Take a look.
by kcotham June 11, 2009 7:10 PM PDT
The "bleeding edge of social networking" is the bleeding edge of the end of culture.
by odubtaig June 13, 2009 10:36 AM PDT
So Reznor's opinion, as a hugely successful musician with a fair amount of business nous, is null and void while yours is entirely valid?

Judge what is said on what is said, not on who said it. You fail at critical analysis.
by odubtaig June 13, 2009 10:37 AM PDT
That is, unless you can actually contradict him on any given point.
by doopdoopdoop June 21, 2009 6:34 PM PDT
It seems I got here just in time. You sir are correct and everybody else is not. Trent should leave the webernets, they are a bit to tricky for him. I thought I had a hard time with webs, but Mrs.Trent can remove his rag now. He should be trolled away if he indeed decides to stay on.

If him calling a fatty a fatty was enough to make him run, just imagine when he is feeding our young trolls for months. I can see his fatty ass whining to MTqueef and VommitH1 about it. We are the internet hate machine you fat wash up of a ****, NOT you mrs.Trent. We are not going to share. **** and **** you lulzy **** :)
by mishmash0101 June 11, 2009 1:31 PM PDT
Social networking is done. Put a fork in it.
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by jbcahill June 11, 2009 1:38 PM PDT
He may not be an authority, but he's called it the way it is. Spend any amount of time on Digg and you will experience the internet idiots.
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by Pete Bardo June 11, 2009 1:40 PM PDT
I actually agree with Trent this time. Most comments I've seen on blogs and such are posted by seemingly narrow-minded folks with a strict agenda. And, yes, Trent fits into that category very well.
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by Police_States_of_America June 11, 2009 1:58 PM PDT
his whole post is worth reading, its very lolworthy
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by nic.disassembly June 11, 2009 2:02 PM PDT
ah...but you forgot "The Slip"...the chronology of social networking would end with "The Slip"...hmmm...
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by Archus June 11, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
I agree, but then again so do most philosophers. To paraphrase - because I can't find the quote - a single person may be smart, but a group of people are always stupid. It's happened this way for as long as people have been getting together to feed of each other. Social networks just make it easier.
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by Timetogetill7 June 11, 2009 2:06 PM PDT
"We're in a world where the mainstream social networks want any and all people to boost user numbers for the big selloff and are not concerned with the quality of experience."

I completely agree with him on that.

Myspace was first the big example, but after trying Facebook and some others it's become mainstream for some people to just add as many people as they want. They really aren't "friends".
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by aj37viggen June 11, 2009 2:23 PM PDT
Maybe the problem is simply that Nine Inch Nails in particular, or celebrity-driven networking in general, attracts a lot of obsessed crack-pots who need to get a life.

In fact, maybe it's our whole concept of "celebrity" that brings out the moron in people. Of course, it's a concept that has made Trent rich and influential -- so if that IS the root cause, he probably doesn't want to deal with it.
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by fcz1 June 11, 2009 2:33 PM PDT
Sorry if this comes across as online hate diatribe, but does Trent look a little chunky in that photo?
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by papsc June 12, 2009 8:04 AM PDT
Seriously? that is all the intelligent things you have to say? go to nin.com and say it and just prove him right
by fcz1 June 22, 2009 9:53 AM PDT
No, not seriously. That's what called a joke. I know NIN fans tend to struggle with those.
by cvaldes1831 June 11, 2009 4:21 PM PDT
I understand how he feels.

On my YouTube account, I get some utterly retarded comments (like "first post"), I know that I am getting nothing as bad as some of the garbage that a celebrity like Trent Reznor gets.

For me, it's easy to delete the asinine comments, but for someone with a really high-profile, it's probably impossible to keep up, and then you start fielding questions like "Why did you delete my comment?"

In many ways, Web 2.0 sucks harder than Web 1.0, since so many more people are contributing to the suckage.
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by jessepluna June 11, 2009 4:22 PM PDT
I think Trent is just experiencing some social media burn out, which is very common, .....only he has 600K people watching his every move. He definitely understands the medium but haters and locos take up a lot of energy.~@jesseluna
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by brian72975 June 11, 2009 6:56 PM PDT
Didn't Trent just use Twitter to raise a ******** of cash for the dude needing the transplant? Gotta take the good with the bad, homes.
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by Inconnux June 15, 2009 6:51 AM PDT
he did and was then accused by some crackpot of doing it for publicity. He has a good point.
by woganmay June 11, 2009 11:58 PM PDT
Reznor should have hired a PR firm to deal with his social networking.

Or he should just have stuck to a non-comment blog. Either way, when it comes to entertainment, the majority of your audience is likely to be idiots.
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by G|Net June 12, 2009 10:19 AM PDT
I agree. These kind of fans have likely have been in love/infatuated/obsessed with Reznor from day one, but today the simple and convenient means to follow him online and let him know are easier than ever before, that's all. He just doesn't want to deal with them. I agree that he should just pay someone to be his official voice on the net so he can worry about his music....?
by C0mmanderB0nd June 12, 2009 12:07 PM PDT
What does he expect from his fanbase, these are the same people that repeatedly paid $15 a CD to hear him screech about how stupid they are.

And now they pay a premium for his limited edition box sets on his direct website. While the internet is a bastion for a high amount of stupidity and insensitivity, I would have to imagine the types that gravitate to his social places would be the top of the miserable whining pile.
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by odubtaig June 13, 2009 10:50 AM PDT
Did he just, not use the internet until last year or something? It's like a Mecca for the disenfranchised moron contingent. I gave up years ago trying to be reasonable with people on message boards (except some of the more heavily moderated ones), these numpties don't care about what's true, they just want the world to form itself in their own image and the truth can go hang.

Bit like trying to reason with this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps
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by sanjayb June 15, 2009 1:52 PM PDT
Another example of crazy people using Social Networking are the CNET blogs with all the fanboi rants. I swear it's pretty hard to gleem anything usueful on the CNET posts since 80% is littered with stupid fanboi rants by alot of people who need a life or need to chill.
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by pentest June 15, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
1. No such thing as "web 2.0", it is a meaningless marketing term.

2. He just needs a more restrictive 2-way communication. I have loved getting the few emails from his mailing list, but any communication should be kept within polls.

Hopefully, he will continue to use his distribution model and forget about the fact that 90% of the world is comprised of not only ignorant people, but proudly ignorant.
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by wruckrother July 23, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
You guys are the prime example of why Trent Reznor is done with social networking. NO ONE CARES WHAT ANYONE THINKS! Everytime someone posts something, little dipstick trolls like you seem to just swarm like flies & pick at everything. It's the most annoying thing in the world because it happens everywhere you turn. I really hope all of you stop and think for a moment before you really beat it one too many times...you know your ***** can't handle that much pressure...from now on...go bate in the bathroom, where we can't see you!
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by wruckrother July 23, 2009 2:28 PM PDT
I can't believe we can't say pe nis...that's a ******* scientific name!
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