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London Times adds to hate for the Web (and California)

by Chris Matyszczyk
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It's all California's fault.

At least that's how London Times columnist Bryan Appleyard sees it, in a heartily vicious attack on Web culture and everything it has wrought along its socially destructive way.

In his post, cheerily titled "Break Free of this world wide delusion," Appleyard excoriates the cult of the Web, which--he firmly believes--resides in the masturbatory den that is the West Coast.

And while his angle of attack differs a little from that of Sony Pictures CEO Michael Lynton, it is just as pained.

Web 2.0, he says, can be defined in many ways. But "its principal features are, as with everything else in California, freedom, personal expression, letting it all hang out and making shedloads of wonga."

In case, you were not familiar with the term "wonga," this is an English term for "loot." Yes, wonga was, indeed, one of the prime motivators behind, say, English colonialism.

But that was then. And this is very much of the now. Appleyard, you see, believes Web lovers are "historically ignorant."

The Web, he says, is not ushering in a post-industrial world. The crises of the last few years have proved that ancient stuff like oil and coal are far more significant to our survival than is the energy-guzzling, lap-dancing entertainment that is the Web.

And yet the Web mindlessly pursues the glorification of the individual: "The key feature of web 2.0 that is currently driving change is its intense focus on the individual. Google's power springs from its ability to advertise not to populations or groups but to individuals."

A shot from inside the London branch of one of California's individualism peddlers.

(Credit: CC Jon Rawlinson/Flickr)

Perhaps too much sitting in damp, inclement weather has made Appleyard envious of a life lived in shorts. But he accuses California of being a paradise in which the individual is set free.

Ready for a little twist? Well, apparently, this individualism creates conformity.

"The banking crisis may not have been caused by the internet but it was certainly fueled by the way connectivity and speed created a market in which everybody was gripped by the hysteria of the herd," he argues.

Naturally, this all ends with a high flourish and bullets over Broadway (the one in San Francisco, naturally): "It is the cultists who threaten the web. They are the ones encouraging dreams of a utopia of the self. They fail to see that the web is just one more product of the biology, culture and history that make us what we are."

You still breathing? OK, finale time: "In the real world, it is wonderful, certainly, but it is also porn, online brothels, privacy invasions, hucksterism, mindless babble and the vacant gaze that always accompanies the mindless pursuit of the new."

Now then, I know many of you will have your own feelings about this riveting perspective. Some might think it interesting that it comes from a nation that occasionally gives the impression of enjoying the mindless pursuit of the old.

Some might also wonder that it comes from an industry that failed to anticipate the Web's direction (and its culture) and lost rather a lot of, um, wonga in that failure.

Some might also consider that the Web doesn't celebrate individualism at all costs. Even the most mindless detractor might admit that it connects many people who otherwise would be permanently apart. Some might also add that the Web does give you a choice in how to use it. Which old media, traditionally, have not.

But perhaps I might offer my own highly individualistic perspective. You see, I lived in caring, sharing London for quite some time. I was, in fact, brought up in caring, sharing England. I have a lot of friends there. I love to go back. For a week or two in July.

And now I live in the self-centered purgatory that is California. I cannot help, therefore, but take this besmirching of my state with a touch of both caringsharingness and individualism.

You see, for all the self-centeredness that exists in these painfully sunny parts, it is largely an honest self-centeredness. While I am sometimes still agog at how quickly people here will divulge information about their kidneys, livers, incomes, and sexual proclivities, there is something charmingly sincere about it.

There is little more tiresome than the perspective, which, I must sorrowfully admit, I can happily associate with England, that we are one nation, the Land of Hope and Glory.

Because it simply isn't true. On a Sunday lunchtime, many folks in England find it hard to share anything more than talk of the piddling rain and the geraniums. Is that what makes a nation, a collective, so great? Is that really the ideal toward which humanity should strive?

Some Californians feel that openness is often seen by the English as dangerously disruptive to their social fabric: instead of saying what we think, we'll just be it. It is a little easier, they say, for the English to live with the truth tucked behind their forked tongues. Well, at least until the third pint of beer.

One of the greatest dangers (for some) that the Web has generated is that there are far more outlets for a slightly Californian honesty as well as for dishonesty. Both can be shared by groups just as much as they might be an expression of one individual. Both give us a larger idea of the ultimate difficulties of the human condition.

I get a little frisson of refrigeration when I look at the words Appleyard uses to describe the ills of California: "freedom," "personal expression," and "letting it all hang out."

If these are bad things, we should be supporting their opposites. Which would be "slavery," "personal silence" and "keeping it all in." How terribly odd.

I'm not thinking of yet suggesting that California should invade England (I mean, come on, man, invasion's not cool), but is this Golden State really in the grips of a cult? No more than the financial center of England is gripped by those who went to certain schools and universities. And they didn't need Web 2.0 to create that little pre-Facebook group.

I wouldn't dream, however, of arguing with Appleyard's final words: "The web is human and fallen; it is bestial as much as it is angelic. There are no new worlds. There is only this one."

But is California really wrecking the world with the cultish iniquity of the Web? Or have other places had a far more lasting deleterious effect? I won't say which places. Best to keep it left unsaid.

Chris Matyszczyk is an award-winning creative director who advises major corporations on content creation and marketing. He brings an irreverent, sarcastic, and sometimes ironic voice to the tech world. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET.
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by MyRightEye May 17, 2009 1:41 PM PDT
So the Internet is democratizing the press, allowing iReporters to cut through the propaganda and bring us the news, the real news, and you're upset your paper my die? Take a good look around, and notice that you're the only one sulking...

viva la internets
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by mikestatic1 May 17, 2009 7:29 PM PDT
If you get your news from iReporters and think it any less biased than major media, you are a fool. It is individual opinion, which can be much more narrow than left-wing or right-wing media.
by MyRightEye May 18, 2009 10:35 AM PDT
mikestatic1 - Who's your employer Mike? Independent media has ALWAYS brought us the truth. Of course there is bias, that's why you use multiple sources. If you think the main stream corporate media is less biased than an individual with a video camera shooting and showing raw footage, the only fool in the house, ain't me. Besides that, your use of such strong words like "fool" betray your own bias and render you unfit for consideration of opinion.

He who doesn't read newspapers is uninformed, and he who reads newspapers is misinformed. Thomas Jefferson.
by imm102 May 17, 2009 1:57 PM PDT
You seem to be tarring all Englishmen with the same brush. I understand the need to lash out at someone who insults something you feel strongly about but insulting England and the English because of one man's comments is a little childish.

I might add I am English and I travel to LA every few months to visit my Californian girlfriend. I am a programmer by trade and feel that the development of the web as an application (I hate the term web 2.0) has been empowering for millions and is a very good thing indeed. Cultures differ, celebrate it! the web and freedom of communication will inevitably lead to a more blended global culture but at the same time allows sub-culture to thrive like it never has before. In my opinion this is not a bad thing.
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by minonda May 17, 2009 5:44 PM PDT
Agree. Just because this criticism was lodged by an Englshman is no reason to respond with a blanket criticism of England and the English. I work with people from the UK on a daily basis and find them to be the most pleasant and cooperative people of any national group I have worked with.
by ChrisMatyszczyk May 17, 2009 6:12 PM PDT
@imm102, @minonda,

I was very careful about whose criticism of the English I was referring to. Only some are mine, but even those are said with a wry, English accent. As, well, that's how I talk. And you know that I was merely mirroring the Times' amusing view of California.

As I said, I have many friends in England. People whom I like enormously. And you're right, the point truly is about blanket characterizations.

Thank you for commenting,

Chris
by bedney42 May 17, 2009 2:03 PM PDT
"Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way..."
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by Police_States_of_America May 17, 2009 2:10 PM PDT
Bryan Appleyard is a cyberbully and should be put in prison
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by technocious May 17, 2009 2:36 PM PDT
This is one of the most poorly written stories I have read on cnet. Is this supposed to be real journalism on a technology review site? By the time you get to the "You see, for all the self-centeredness that exists in these painfully sunny parts..." part of the story, you realize that the author is struggling to be an intellectual about a subject he simply does not get. First of all, Appleyard was not attacking America or California. Failing to grasp this, Matyszczyk goes on what feels like an anti-England tirade explaining why England, English people, and English culture suck (going so far as to suggest his arguments that they suck are credible because he lived there). Appleyard is using "Californians" as proxy for those who are known for playing very large roles on the web (like google and apple), even though he does abusively dramatize the the Californian software startup mentality. I am an American and I am a web user. Heck, I am a even a web 2.0 user. I think the web is great. At the same time I realize it is great, I realize it is very satisfying to the addiction to "more, better, faster." It is also satisfying to an addiction to "free stuff." Appleyard's perspective has a lot of truths to it. As an example, it is possible that some of the great news organizations could falter if all news becomes free. I know that has not happened yet, but it is worth looking at the idea that it is possible. Newspapers are struggling right now (though much of that is their own fault). It is also important that there be competition for more and better news. If google becomes the sole supplier of our news, google can control our news. None of this has come to pass, but it could and just as the web can do great things for us, the web can do bad things to us. Appleyard is trying to say that the bad should be recognized, along with the good, about the web. And he is right, we are still living in the same world we lived in before web 1.0 was invented.
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by jazzmandan May 17, 2009 7:38 PM PDT
I agree, I was really hoping for a thought provoking counterpoint to the Sunday Times argument . It read more like a blog written by an angry ignorant teen, mostly just rehashing the original with little useful reply.

He's rather proving the points made unfortunately.
by Markus644 May 17, 2009 9:30 PM PDT
Relax, Francis - he was just taking the wind out of a windbag. Which, judging by your 365-word oeuvre, you should also be afraid of.

A bloviator from Blighty got his knickers in a knot over their industry's unassailable position getting the hell assailed out of it, and the author tweaked his nose over this ****** little fit of pique. Get over it already.
by SlimGem May 17, 2009 2:41 PM PDT
Why stop at Web 2.0? California has been the capital of decadence for a century. They may not have invented immorality, but they sure have promoted it.
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by SprSynJn May 17, 2009 9:11 PM PDT
I am originally from California, and even I know this to be true. While I do love Apple products in general, and use the web on a daily basis, I am fully aware California is the root to many of societies problems within the United States. Just walk one of the University of California's campuses and you will see how children these days are raised in that region. So much it made me want to move to Tennessee when my family up and left. And I despised the Bible Belt growing up!
by Perry_Clease May 18, 2009 5:56 AM PDT
Who accepted the promotion?
by alegr May 18, 2009 10:40 AM PDT
I just wonder why Bible Belt still have such high underage pregnancy rates, on par with California.
by t8 May 17, 2009 2:53 PM PDT
Don't sulk, innovate.
The printing press that your papers come from were the Internet of their day.
That day is passing now.
There is a season for everything.
Move up to the next level please, or bye bye.
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by 4score20 May 17, 2009 2:53 PM PDT
Appleyard is just expressing the fact that he is afraid of technology and people and especially technology which facilitates communication between people and he's using the web as a way to make his fear rational. Also, he's a poopyhead.
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by allstar919 May 17, 2009 2:55 PM PDT
I think this guy from the London Times has a point. If we glorify The Huffington Post and The Daily Show for their slant against institutions, well, plan on losing a few institutions. I'm not against a thinning of the herd among newspapers - I'm very much for it - but let's try to appreciate what good papers like the NY Times and the Wall Street Journal bring us every day. We should pay for all that wonderful information, because I don't know of any bloggers stationed over in Kabul, doing interviews and taking pictures in their flak jacket.

I love the internet more than any other invention in my life. But I can certainly admit it has glorified my individual whims as well as my bias against the institutions that controlled much of my earlier life. This writer just wants to make sure those kinds of biases haven't boiled over so that we forget what is at stake.
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by johnisfun May 17, 2009 4:29 PM PDT
Since when does idiotic rambling and the odd smug, derisory comment about another country count for journalism?

Please, CNET, sack this guy! The Times article was bad enough, but this guy's commentary is foolish, smug, and lacking in any kind of serious analysis.
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by jazzmandan May 17, 2009 7:40 PM PDT
I agree. CNET is just becoming another angry gang of bloggers that just rehash and criticize others content. Proving the Appleyards point.
by phylum--2008 May 17, 2009 5:31 PM PDT
To the man's point, have you ever looked at the nameplate inside the box on your iPod? "Designed by Apple in Calfornia"... ah, yes... the magical, wonderful land of California... where everyone lives in a utopia of technological bliss, where everyone is slightly better than everyone else, and lifestyles are attunely balanced with the earthquakes, mudslides, choking fires and race riots.

Tongue firmly out of cheek, yes, California (and specifically, the Valley) has created some awesome technologies that are vital to what we do and how we live, and many of these technologies have nothing to do with "me-monkey" Web 2.0 stuff.

However, as an east-coast tech entrepreneur, I can say that our opinion of our free-sprited tech cousins in the west is that for every one good instance of a technology, product, or company, about 1,000 pieces of utterly self-indulgent crap are generated alongside it. Much of California tech is all talk, with precious little substance to show for it. Moreover, everyone wants to cast themselves as a "technology visionary / entrpreneur" -- the problem is, very few of them have money, corporate leadership experience, or even a decent understanding of technology. That kinda belies the goal.

I heard a good definition of Valley people once: "They all talk like hippies, and act like gangsters."
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by jazzmandan May 17, 2009 7:42 PM PDT
Great comment, I totally agree. We too have offices on the east and west coast. More good stuff comes out of the east coast office on a regular basis whereas the west coast had the odd flash on innovation amongst a sea of hippy junk.
by May 17, 2009 6:02 PM PDT
Like Chris, I'm an Englishman who now lives (very happily) in California. CA isn't perfect but having lived in both the UK and the US (OK, CA) I can relate to Chris' position on this article. Maybe you have to live in the UK for a while to understand how truly judgmental the Brits can be. It's not born out of a desire to help others better themselves. It's just plain old sour grapes. The sanctimonious air is stifling!

I haven't lived in the UK for nearly 20 years and I never will again. Unlike Chris, I can't stand it for a week or two, three days has become my limit before I run back to Heathrow, creaming "Sanctuary!"... Why? Well because when I moved to CA I learned that I actually am an individual. I don't have to conform to what an overly controlling government tells me I should be or listen to the patronizing drivel that now passes for the BBC and laugh at the predetermined point.

For a land full of eccentrics isn't it sweet irony that they chose to berate us for being individuals?
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by ChrisMatyszczyk May 17, 2009 7:34 PM PDT
Nice to meet you, oh person of no name and indeterminate sex.

I am glad that you have found some peace and self in the sunshine.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. It is one I can, as we say out here, very much feel.

Chris
by tygerlyons May 17, 2009 8:16 PM PDT
Hear, hear...Also am a transplanted Brit and no, never again will I return other than to see my dear old mum. Also lived in SoCal for quite a number of years. 'Stifling' is the perfect choice ... sorry, gotta go listen to some Floyd!
by jaggedpath May 17, 2009 7:00 PM PDT
Ironically, Appleby has his own blog: http://www.bryanappleyard.com/blog/
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by jaggedpath May 17, 2009 7:02 PM PDT
Oops, I mean Appleyard.
by crasch1948 May 17, 2009 7:09 PM PDT
the Beatles are destroying society and rock and roll music will be the end of all morals. and the Charleston...
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by daveshax May 18, 2009 1:30 PM PDT
Exactly! And did you hear Beethovan's fourth!? Disgausting. We can't let that kind of filth spread around the world.
by tygerlyons May 17, 2009 7:15 PM PDT
The post WW2 British mindset is a very strange animal. I think that we (people in general) tend to believe that we are 'normal' and everyone else needs to be more like us. The British, however, seem to be convinced of it., They need to smoke a little of the fragrant flower over there and relax a little.
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by ChrisMatyszczyk May 17, 2009 7:36 PM PDT
@tygerlyons,

It's not easy to give up all your land and your alleged influence.

It can, on occasion, turn you to drink.

Thank you for commenting,

Chris
by ervinsonoma May 17, 2009 7:16 PM PDT
I love Brits and I thank them for California. It was, in no small part, their colonization efforts motivated by pride, greed and probably a great desire for a nicer climate that has paved the way for me to sit in the sunny hills of northern CA and watch the sun set over the beautiful Pacific... the irony in Mr. Appleyards comments cannot be missed.
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by jazzmandan May 17, 2009 7:45 PM PDT
I'm an Englishman in Florida enjoying much of the same. I can understand why everyone is so happy when it's lush and green all year and the sky is very rarely grey. Being English and having endured both I can understand why the English are the way they are. I
by mikestatic1 May 17, 2009 7:31 PM PDT
Well, when the big earthquake hits and California falls into the ocean, maybe the internet will go with it.
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by Perry_Clease May 18, 2009 5:59 AM PDT
"You people" have it all wrong! California will NOT fall into the ocean, but the states to the east will slide into the Atlantic Ocean. The cream floats to the top and the dregs to the bottom.
by iloveads47 May 17, 2009 11:52 PM PDT
Not one of your strongest entries, in my individual opinion :)
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by scorpio0 May 18, 2009 1:34 AM PDT
appleyard's argument is actually pretty spot on. the problem is all he's doing is complaining about it.

the media industry of the last 200+ years has been characterised by industrialised forms of mass communication to a largely undifferentiated, silent mass audience.

the internet comes along with it's decentralised networks and open communication platforms and suddenly everyone is a media ceo. no one owns the internet (as such), and so anyone and everyone is free to stake their claim.

just like the old gold rush days in california, everybody is out to strike it rich. opportunity abounds everywhere. fortunes are free to be made. hit the right idea and you're set for life. crash and burn... who cares, just start again tomorrow.

this is essentially the basis for western capitalist democracies. every man (or woman) has the opportunity to succeed and is free to live their life as they choose.

why should the online world be any different?
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by Dr_Zinj May 18, 2009 9:56 AM PDT
Bryan Appleyard is an ignorant, pessimistic troll who embodies all the things we came to America to escape. Just remember that he comes from a backwards, insignificant little island off the coast of Europe. (My apologies to those Brits who have actually made a contribution to the world; you're leagues above Appleyard, foreward thinking, and merit a gold star over GB.)
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by jturner2121 May 18, 2009 11:53 AM PDT
how ignorant are you?
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