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June 20, 2008 1:50 PM PDT

Nvidia video: No quad-core chip needed for extreme PC

by Brooke Crothers
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Nvidia has posted a video that involves the new GTX 280 chip, overclocking, lots of liquid nitrogen, and the Nvidia labs. Oh, and no quad-core processor. Get the point?

Nvidia NForce 790i Ultra SLI motherboard

Nvidia NForce 790i Ultra SLI motherboard

(Credit: Nvidia)

"A lot of people believe you need an Intel quad-core or Intel quad-core Extreme to build an extreme PC," says the post by "Steffee" on the Nvidia Web site. "Today I'm going to build a gaming PC using the Intel Core 2 Duo. That's duo. Got that? Duo, two cores."

I think the point the blogger is trying to make is that the test system has only has two cores, though I could be mistaken.

Here's an excerpt from the blog: "Think you need a quad-core CPU for an extreme gaming PC with impressive 3DMark Vantage numbers and gaming performance?...I overclocked and hyper-cooled an SLI gaming rig using two of our latest and greatest GPUs--GeForce GTX 280...and a sub-$200 CPU."

Intel, of course, has a different take on this. "Most of what people do today with their computers requires powerful processors. Examples of processor-intensive applications include: creating content, viewing/editing high definition video, using social media sites, office tools, downloading music, and editing photos," Intel said in a statement.

In the test, the blogger uses an NForce 790i Ultra SLI motherboard, Intel core 2 duo E8400, in addition to the GTX 280 graphics card.

With the single GTX 280 board, the score is a 3DMark Vantage "X4796."

Then the blogger (an Nvidia employee) takes a hike to the Nvidia lab. "Now we're going to take a field trip to Nvidia labs to do some serious overclocking," she says. After adding what seems to be prodigious amounts of liquid nitrogen and adding another GTX 280 SLI board, the 3DMark score jumps to "X10,282."

Intel could respond (which it hasn't) by saying that the E8400 is not a slow processor: it runs at 3.0GHZ and has 6MB of cache. And overclocked with liquid nitrogen, it would probably get some pretty good scores too. And then, of course, it might be simpler to just get a quad-core Extreme CPU.

In the test, the Nvida GTX 280 core clock was overclocked to 727MHz and the shader to 1458MHz. The core clock is normally 602MHz and the shader clock 1296MHz.

System specifications:
--2? NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 graphics cards running in SLI nForce 790i Ultra SLI motherboard
--Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 CPU
--4 GB SLI-ready Corsair DDR3 memory
--PC Power and Cooling TurboCool 1200W power supply
--Windows Vista 32-bit operating system

Brooke Crothers has been an editor at large at CNET News, an analyst at IDC Japan, and an editor at The Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, among other endeavors, including co-manager of an after-school math-and-reading center. He writes for the CNET Blog Network and is not a current employee of CNET. Disclosure.
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by Imalittleteapot June 20, 2008 11:04 PM PDT
I still don't understand this logic. They take a CPU that isn't slow then say look how slow this CPU is? Yes it is probably true a video card will get a lot of video out to the monitor better than something that isn't a video card. Who would have thunk it? What if you're doing something other than gaming? Surfing the web, checking email, launching 18 tabs, downloading a file, also downloading torrents, playing mp3s, burning DVDs, and running spyware? How does it match up with the Quad then? Try it with a 486 then get back to me. Once you say the words extreme PC or overclocking you've already left the better bang for your buck argument anyway. Now you're chatting with the big boys that have enough money to buy both the card and the Quad. Why would they limit themselves to a dual core just to prove a point? If Nvidia is upset because every comp has a CPU, but only some comps have a dedicated card well that's nobody's fault but their own. They generate heat, they need bigger power supplies, they kill battery life, and they don't fit in smaller cases or laptops well. It isn't like when people buy a comp from Walmart they're happy it doesn't have a GPU in it. That's just a decision that was made by the manufactures. If Nvidia wants their cards to ship in more computers then it is Dell, Compaq, and HP they need to be talking to about how to make that happen in the sub $1000 computing environment.
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Brooke Crothers was formerly editor-at-large at CNET News.com, an analyst at IDC (International Data Corp.) Japan, and an editor at The Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly (The Wall Street Journal, Dow Jones), among other endeavors, including a recent hiatus from the tech industry when he co-managed an after-school math and reading center. Nanotech covers computer chip technology and how it defines the computing experience. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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