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November 10, 2009 9:12 AM PST

Intel Celeron chip anchors $249 Acer Windows 7 laptop

by Brooke Crothers
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Best Buy is set to launch its lowest-advertised-price laptop to date--an Acer model based on Intel's venerable Celeron chip.

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Thought Netbooks were as low as a laptop's price can go? Another category of ultra-low-cost laptops has quietly emerged. These aren't small or ultra-thin or frugal with power consumption. There's nothing remarkable about these laptops--except price.

Best Buy said it will start selling on Wednesday the $249 Acer laptop--the retailer's lowest-advertised-price laptop ever. The laptop comes with an Intel Celeron processor, 15.4-inch screen, 2GB memory, a 160GB hard drive, and Windows 7 Premium. The model is available while supplies last.

Currently, the lowest-priced laptop listed on Best Buy's Web site is an Acer Aspire with an Advanced Micro Devices Athlon Processor (model: AS5532-553). On Tuesday, it was selling for $329.

Why the proliferation of low-cost laptops? "It's gone from one PC per household to one PC per person," said Justin Barber, a Best Buy spokesman. "And sometimes more than one laptop per person," he said, referring to Netbooks, which are marketed as companion devices to a higher-end PC.

At the core of the low-cost Acer laptop is an Intel Celeron Processor 900--not an Intel Atom chip, which is standard fare for sub-$300 Netbooks. The Celeron is a faster design than Atom: the 900 series packs 1MB cache of cache memory and is rated at 2.20GHz.

By comparison, the Z550 Atom is rated at 2.0GHz and integrates only 512K of cache. The Atom's performance is also hampered by fundamental design constraints: it is built for power efficiency not speed.

Netbooks continue to be the most popular low-cost laptop category, however. Best Buy lists dozens of Netbooks on its Web site from Hewlett-Packard, Asus, Samsung, Gateway, Nokia, Lenovo, and Toshiba, among others. Most are priced around $350.

Brooke Crothers has served as an editor at large at CNET News, an editor at Dow Jones' Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, and a senior editor at InfoWorld. His CNET blog covers chip technology and computer systems, and how they define the computing experience. He also contributes to The New York Times' Bits and Technology sections. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. Follow Brooke on Twitter @mbrookec.
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by Lennron November 10, 2009 9:22 AM PST
An Acer with a Celeron processor. What could go wrong there!?! (Please note the sarcasm)
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by SactoGuy018 November 10, 2009 9:43 AM PST
Psst--this "Celeron" CPU is vastly more modern in design than most Pentium 4 CPU's. As such--and especially with 1 MB of on-die L2 cache--the machine will run Windows 7 Home Premium reasonably fast.
by Lennron November 10, 2009 12:01 PM PST
I'm not saying it won't go fast. I'm saying that, in my experience, Celeron processors (and Acer computers in general for that matter) tend to give out much sooner than others. But I guess that would be the reasoning behind the low prices.
by ikramerica--2008 November 10, 2009 12:38 PM PST
Why compare it to a Z550 instead of an N270/280. Is Acer paying you to make it sound better than it is, or do you think "clockspeeds are close, so they must be comparable"?
by mbenedict November 10, 2009 4:53 PM PST
The comparison to the Z550 is the correct one, e.g., considering the 15.4 inch screen size.
by Random_Walk November 10, 2009 9:26 AM PST
Man, that's still going to be gawdawful slow...
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by Vegaman_Dan November 10, 2009 11:01 AM PST
And yet it will still be comparable to the low end Mac laptop.

I suppose it's all about what you want to do with it and how much you want to pay.
by ikramerica--2008 November 10, 2009 12:39 PM PST
Again, complete lies. A Core 2 Duo 2.2 is in no way comparable to a Celery 900. Get a life, liar.
by Vegaman_Dan November 10, 2009 1:44 PM PST
You know, you're right. They can't compare- except for actual use.

Small laptop, Asus or Apple:

Are you going to run games on it? No.
Photoshop? No.
Huge databases? No.
Video editing? No.

Browse the web? Yes.
Check email? Yes.
Play online games? Yes.
Check your bank balance after spending/saving all that money? Yes.

Now see, for what you plan to use it for, it seems to me that $249 is a heck of a lot less than $999. Perhaps my math is off a bit, but $249 appears to be a much lower number than $999.
by ikramerica--2008 November 10, 2009 4:18 PM PST
Whatever. My MacBook Pro is 2+ years old. It has the same core 2 duo that the low end macbooks now have. the graphics are better, but otherwise, it's the same HD, processor, memory, etc. Actually, my memory bus is slower.

And I can cut video on this machine. I use photoshop. I run 10 programs at once sometimes. I run Windows in VMWare Fusion.

I have used this Celery processor you think is so equal. That machine CAN'T do what the low-end MacBook can do. No freaking way.

So just stop spreading LIES. You are a LIAR, you LIE all the time about apple products, and it's sad, really.

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR, LIAR. :-)
by Gold_Storm_Mac November 10, 2009 4:30 PM PST
no way. Celeron is the worst processor. ssssssssssssoooooooooo sloww??.w?.
by mbenedict November 10, 2009 5:11 PM PST
This Celeron *is* in some cases faster than older Intel Macs, and for certain tasks can be as fast as new Macs.

The Celeron 900 is basically an Intel Core 2 CPU with just one core enabled. It's a full 64-bit CPU unlike older Intel Macs which used the 32-bit Intel Core (not Core 2). This Celeron also runs at 800 FSB compared to 533 MHz for the older Macs.

Because the Celeron 900 has only one core enabled, it will obviously be at a disadvantage in multitasking and will look terrible in benchmarks. But for the vast majority of users who use a single active app at one time (web browsing, word processing, etc), the 900 yields pretty good "real world" performance similar to even new Macs.
by cbscowards November 10, 2009 9:27 AM PST
The Celeron is now "venerable"? It used to be the cheapo option for someone who didn't want to pay for a full Pentium 4. I guess it's moved up in the world? Maybe not, since cost seems to be the reason why Acer selected it.
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by tipoo_ November 10, 2009 9:34 AM PST
By venerable, i guess he means its not an Atom.
by Random_Walk November 10, 2009 9:57 AM PST
Once upon a time, you could overclock the unholy crap out of a Celeron, which gave you far better performance than its equivalent Pentium 3.
by techman21 November 10, 2009 10:44 AM PST
By "venerable" I think he means it just won't go away.
by mbenedict November 10, 2009 5:12 PM PST
Celeron is just a marketing term. It's really a Core 2 Solo, and all Core 2s are pretty fast.
by Vepar_S November 20, 2009 10:02 AM PST
@mbenedick

I was going to sat the same thing, to be honest why not just get the Acer Timeline 4810 or 5810 series? They run a Core2 Solo SU3500, so what the clock speed is 1.4Ghz and 3MB cache 800MHX FSB, it comes with 4GB DDR3 and a nice 14" screen. It's light and has an nice battery life. Screw Net-craps.
by jenktj27 November 10, 2009 9:28 AM PST
What are the video specs? Will be able to handle Aero features and playback quality video?
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by ducttape36 November 10, 2009 9:47 AM PST
i should be able to play local (i.e. not web based video like flash) high def content no problem, although i doubt that screen res is high def. areo features should be no problem as well, as even netbooks can handle it.
by streamline35 November 10, 2009 11:33 AM PST
My netbook can handle all the aero features on 7 fine (I leave 1/2 of them off though because it drains battery faster), so I think it's a safe assumption it will handle aero just fine.

As for video, depends on what quality video you're talking about. Again, my netbook can play resonable quality AVI files fine (I've never tried it with anything too hardcore), but since this is more powerful, I'm sure it could play at least dvd quality video fine (probably higher as well)
by CupertinoBill November 10, 2009 9:31 AM PST
Say, that looks like a cheap way to get Win7 on a mac. Just use VMWare Fusion to migrate the whole netbook disk onto your mac. And then give the netbook to some homeless person. Uh, I mean hopeless person.
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by mike_ekim November 10, 2009 10:39 AM PST
Yeah, go through all that trouble and pay $250 for a single copy of Windows 7. Great idea!
by streamline35 November 10, 2009 11:36 AM PST
Um, unless you don't want to pay $1000-$2000 for a mac, when a $250 laptop is all you need for web surfing.
by FF2009 November 10, 2009 9:39 AM PST
That's a great price. Get rid of W7 and put Ubuntu 9.10 on it and you get the fastest Lappy running on Celeron chip.

all for just $249
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by nopinktoday November 10, 2009 12:21 PM PST
OR! Dual-boot Ubuntu 9.10 with W7. Though if we're talking about a single OS, Ubuntu would be a good choice too.
by Kokulan2014 November 10, 2009 9:50 AM PST
Guys!

Intel is pushing its last bulk of Celerons with greater discounts
MS is pushing as much as it can to get the Win7 on comsumers cmputers by giving greater discounts.
Acer has already moved on to many other models, it also needs to get rid of some of the stock...

These all might be the reason behind this LOWES ever advertised laptop...
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by mike_ekim November 10, 2009 10:33 AM PST
So? If I only have $250 to spend I can buy this laptop, or I can NOT buy a better laptop - unless I want to use my credit card, like a moron.
by streamline35 November 10, 2009 11:38 AM PST
Are you saying that's a negative? Seems like what you described is a great deal for consumers. Like mike_ekim said below, if you have $250 to spend on a laptop, what else are you going to do? It's also impressive that something that cheap has something faster than an atom processor
by dougbugl November 10, 2009 10:00 AM PST
you almost had it right there when you mentioned that it doesn't use an Atom CPU and the Atom chips are designed for low power. Why not mention the runtime of this setup since you mentioned netbooks in the article too?
This is Wintel's response to the netbook threat so maybe you should help consumers just a bit by doing more than posting an ad for a $249 laptop? It's a great price for a low end laptop as long as a power outlet is always near by. But as for a portable netbook replacement goes, it is probably going to fail because of the short battery runtime.

Power consumption is the big benefit netbooks have over laptops with their ability to run for 7, 8, and more hours on battery is what makes them a great mobile device choice. That and their usually small size and price. Wintel now has met the price point but they can not meet the size and power usage bullet points and still run Windows.

Very tempting for the coffee table if the hardware is well supported via Linux.
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by streamline35 November 10, 2009 11:46 AM PST
Um, you do realize windows and intel are the primary software and hardware providers for netbooks... right? They pretty much created the "netbook threat" - they don't exactly need to defend against it.

The only reason he mentioned netbooks was price and power are somewhat similar. Obviously the netbooks have a huge advantage in battery and mobility - where as this is obviously more of a computer that you move from one location to another and plug in. I think this is a better deal for someone considering a netbook for price only. If someone needs it for mobility (that's why I got mine, and because of the price, I could afford it as a secondary computer), this isn't something to look at.
by Raabscuttle November 10, 2009 11:53 AM PST
Atoms were designed for MIDs and the third world. This Celeron will run circles around an Atom - but with a power penalty. I'd seen netbooks so slow to respond that we thought it was broken - it wasn't, it was just slow as molassas in the snow.
by dougbugl November 10, 2009 5:41 PM PST
good thing you said "practically" because Wintel did not invent the netbook market, it was Lintel via the Eee PC. Microsoft had to step in and get the hardware vendors to boost the hardware so they could package Windows on it and they had to bring Windows XP out of EOL to do it. The deals Microsoft has to pull to get the hardware vendors to do all this cost Microsoft millions in forced marketing deals and dirt cheap pricing for the XP Home license.

I brought up the Netbook issue because a Netbook is more than just a price and that is all this has in common with a Netbook. Anyways, the deal is that Microsoft and Intel MUST destroy the Netbook segment because they can not play in that space and make any money. Intel has to use top of the line processing technology to sell dirt cheap CPUs for the low priced, low power Netbooks. Microsoft can't get much of a licensing fee at all from a those low priced Netbooks and on top of that, their Windows 7 OS requires more hardware than XP required. Not much but more and it's been shown you have to have anti-virus running too so there goes performance out the window using Windows.

Netbooks are more than low price and it is a competitive battleground both those companies would rather see eliminated. So that is why I brought it all up. The author is doing their bidding by just associated the cheap price with Netbooks. They are not desktop replacements and running Windows, they're not even close.

BTW, Atoms were designed to go up against the AMD Geode and VIA processors on these low power hungry devices. MIDs was Intel's invention but it was probably the OLPC XO which started it all. The ARM chips used in the top of the line smartphones are putting tons of pressure on Intel in the Netbook space so there is yet another reason for them to want that segment gone. And Atoms are being built on the top of the line 45nm process lines with Intels high end/high priced CPUs but they have to sell them cheap. They must use the 45nm process lines to keep power usage low and even then they are only in the ballpark. The ARM Cortex a8 and multi-core a9's are a major threat.

yes I know alittle bit about this stuff.
by AJ Pants November 10, 2009 10:06 AM PST
I have an Acer 4250, given to me by the Dept of Education. It's garbage. Practically unusable for anything other than web browsing or email.
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by sanenazok November 10, 2009 10:13 AM PST
No way! The government paid for something that sucks?
by Dust_Puppy November 10, 2009 10:19 AM PST
I agree . . . a cheap way to get Win7 license . . . put linux on it and Win on a desktop *bam*

:)
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by ClaBR November 10, 2009 11:16 AM PST
One problem: The Win7 license is an OEM license and can't be transferred to another computer.
by Puter_User November 10, 2009 10:33 AM PST
I have a compaq presario with a celeron chip and its going on 10 years old and still lights up. It had some glitches in the beginning, but its better then my new dell which is a piece of junk.
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by mike_ekim November 10, 2009 10:53 AM PST
Wow. A company is selling a full-sized laptop (i.e. a small keyboard instead of a tiny keyboard) for $250 and people are complaining because it isn't fast enough?

Some people are never happy...
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by Vegaman_Dan November 10, 2009 11:05 AM PST
Think of it as a throwaway machine you give to your kids as their first laptop. It if gets damaged, it's far better to lose $250 instead of $1000+ for a Mac or other high end system.
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by MrZook November 10, 2009 11:06 AM PST
I say its perfect for high school students and college students on an extreme budget. Load some free office software on it and iTunes and you're good to go.
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by DnetMHZ November 10, 2009 1:33 PM PST
Not even worth debating, it'll sell out in 10 minutes online and that will be the end of it.
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by ckurowic November 10, 2009 2:28 PM PST
Probably an accurate statement. At that price they will go fast.
by sarasotaguy November 10, 2009 1:50 PM PST
So many pointless comments. Yikes. Most of the negative comments are from people who don't understand the fact that no everyone can afford $999 macs or more expensive pc than $250. WE ARE IN the worst economic situation in 50 years! Please Best Buy is smart...you ignorant dorks need to walk down the street once to see who might be buying this laptop.
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by ckurowic November 10, 2009 2:27 PM PST
I'm a Mac guy but I agree with this comment. If you can't afford anything else, thats fine. I'm sure this thing will do just fine for most peoples needs.
by ikramerica--2008 November 10, 2009 4:18 PM PST
Buy a used Mac... ;)
by techie_guy4 November 10, 2009 5:13 PM PST
Retail Windows 7 Premium sells for $200, By all means this is a **Super** **deal** ,,
Retail has its own advantage but this should kill xp based netbooks..
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by maineguy207 November 10, 2009 5:13 PM PST
I was in the hospital for a week and needed something to watch DVD's on so my partner went out and picked up an Acer laptop for $350 at Best buy back in April. Sure it's not as powerful as my desktop pc or my mac but it does all my online needs and works great with picasa and yes I do use photoshop on it.
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by Dan7637 November 10, 2009 5:19 PM PST
enough with the damn mac vs pc debate, be gone ye trolls
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by JabberWockey November 11, 2009 11:39 AM PST
Lol! Celeron. *shakes head*
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