September 30, 2009 3:05 PM PDT

Supercomputer to use new Nvidia 'Fermi' chip

by Brooke Crothers
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Updated at 6:40 p.m. PDT: adding additional information about Fermi chip .

Oak Ridge National Laboratory announced plans today for a new supercomputer that will use Nvidia's next-generation GPU architecture, codenamed "Fermi."

The Oak Ridge and Fermi announcements were made at Nvidia's GPU Technology developer's conference, which kicked off Wednesday in San Jose, Calif. The Fermi chip integrates three billion transistors, about three times the number of transistors in Nvidia's most powerful graphics chip now on the market. In the future, the chip will also find its way into Nvidia's GeForce product line for PCs.

Oak Ridge's supercomputer will be used for research in energy and climate change and is expected to be 10 times more powerful than today's fastest supercomputer, according to a joint statement from Oak Ridge and Nvidia. The architecture would use both graphics processing units (GPUs) from Nvida and central processing units (CPUs), according to Nvidia. Intel and Advanced Micro Devices, among others, make the CPUs.

High-end GPUs today typically contain hundreds of processing cores, allowing them to accelerate certain types of computational tasks much more efficiently, and thereby much faster, than CPUs. The new Fermi chip will have a little more than twice as many cores as current high-end Nvidia GPUs, according to Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang, jumping from 240 cores to 512 in Fermi.

Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang shows graphics card with new Fermi chip Wednesday

Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang shows graphics card with new Fermi chip Wednesday

(Credit: Nvidia)

Fermi GPUs would enable "substantial scientific breakthroughs" that would be impossible without the new technology, said Jeff Nichols, Oak Ridge's associate lab director for Computing and Computational Sciences, in a statement.

"With the help of Nvidia technology, Oak Ridge proposes to create a computing platform that will deliver exascale computing within ten years," Nichols said. Exascale computing proposes to go beyond petaflop performance (a thousand trillion) to one million trillion operations per second.

Oak Ridge also announced it will be creating the Hybrid Multicore Consortium focused on computing with different types of processor architectures. The goals of this consortium are to work with the developers to run applications on the next generation of supercomputers built with CPUs and GPUs.

Nvidia's rival AMD recently announced one of its fastest graphics chips yet that packs 2.15 billion transistors and supports Microsoft's upcoming DirectX 11 programming interface for accelerating graphics and general-purpose computing in Windows 7. The ATI Radeon HD 5870 has received consistently positive reviews, beating comparable Nvidia chips and, most importantly, it is available now.

Brooke Crothers has served as an editor at large at CNET News, an editor at Dow Jones' Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, and a senior editor at InfoWorld. His CNET blog covers chip technology and computer systems, and how they define the computing experience. He also contributes to The New York Times' Bits and Technology sections. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. Follow Brooke on Twitter @mbrookec.
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by rollcage September 30, 2009 3:50 PM PDT
Right, studying energy and climate change...they really just want a computer able to run the next Crysis!
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by mudphud September 30, 2009 4:30 PM PDT
Unfortunately the minimum system requirements are a billion trillion calculations per second, so no, you can't play the next Crysis on this system.
by macksumum September 30, 2009 4:55 PM PDT
sorry but nothing will ever be able to run crysis.it is impossible to do.
by Tod Smith September 30, 2009 5:56 PM PDT
ATI is dead!
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by dennisheadley September 30, 2009 6:15 PM PDT
Useless comment, Nvidia has never had ATI in the grave even when there were huge gaps in performance between the two makers. At the moment Nvidia doesn't even have a gap to work with at all so how would anything they do signal the end for ATI. And please do not throw out the normal dribble about Physx being the killer application since it is not nearly as widely supported as it would need to be to become a major factor in GPU selection.

BTW, it's been years since I have purchased an ATI card myself and I am personally on my 5th SLi setup to date so I am not an ATI fan by any means, but also I have had more problems with Nvidia graphics cards and chip sets than with any other vendor of computer hardware to date and their drivers are more scatter shot from really great to utter crap and everywhere in between than any other vendor I have ever seen. And that is saying a great deal since I have used almost every Creative Labs card made in the past two decades.
by tipoo_ September 30, 2009 6:57 PM PDT
Right, the only one of the three major GPU competitors who both owns a GPU company and is a CPU company is dead in the light of the future GPGPU trend. That makes perfect sence.


-_-
by McPlot October 1, 2009 1:25 AM PDT
I sure hope ATi is not dead! While I use nVidia myself, without ATi, who is to compete with nVidia? The crappy built in Intel graphics? This would make nVidia charge more money per card, and there would be more time between upgrades. Without competition, we all get shafted.
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by smrterthnu September 30, 2009 6:48 PM PDT
512 cores? That's crazy!
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by richard993 October 2, 2009 8:17 PM PDT
No so crazy when you think about the number of calculations are required per second for the latest games. Most games are now simulating in real-time things like particle physics, blood splatters, decapitations and many other things. Simulating how wood breaks under different kinds of actions is not something that can be done in real-time with one CPU. Future games are now taking chemical reactions into real-time (using acid or fire on various objects). When you think about it, most of the CPU power required for a desktop is primarily related to the user interface (like Aero interface for Vista/Windows 7 or the ribbon bar in Office 7).
I think we are going to see a lot more competition in this area particularly between CPU manufacturers and GPU manufacturers hence the reason why there had been some acquisitions: AMD and ATI, Intel and RapidMind (GPU development platform). Some business applications are already moving some of the processing to the GPU because of it's abilities to perform calculations on larger numbers than the CPU with a single instruction and perform these calculations simultaneously across a large number of cores.
by lostintimeetc October 17, 2009 2:55 PM PDT
they are up to 1600 actually... $380-$390 not 1.5K$ as iammarcin supposed...
by aprkmw September 30, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
people can't run crysis because it is so awesome and has the best of everything. they can't run crysis because Crytek did a shotty job at making it perform well. anyone who actually played the game when it first came out knows of the many problems it had, it was so bad Crytek decided to stop trying to fix the problems with the multiplayer and stop supporting it until the expansion came out.
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by tipoo_ September 30, 2009 6:55 PM PDT
Looks incredible! One of those white papers on the official Fermi website said 1.5Tflops, while the Radeon 5870 has 2.72 ish, but that of course is far from a perfect indicator of performance, and besides, the other technologies in this look very promising!


Still doesnt explain the weak sounding name though. Although Evergreen isnt much manlier :-P
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by iamarcin October 1, 2009 10:45 AM PDT
The Teslas are still $1200-$1500.
So this card is going to cost like $5k...?
I didn't like how this article don't mention the power efficiency or the release date to general public...
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Brooke Crothers has served as an editor at large at CNET News, an editor at Dow Jones' Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, and a senior editor at InfoWorld. His CNET blog covers chip technology and computer systems, and how they define the computing experience. He also contributes to The New York Times' Bits and Technology sections. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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