August 7, 2009 12:30 AM PDT

OMG! Intel Celeron chips in terrorists' hands

by Brooke Crothers
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A letter from The Securities and Exchange Commission to Intel is not likely to inspire a future episode of "24."

The June 4, 2009 letter (originally marked "confidential") to Intel from the SEC states: "We are aware of a May 2008 news report that PCs in Cuba contain your Celeron processors. Cuba, Iran, Sudan, and Syria are identified by the State Department as state sponsors of terrorism, and are subject to U.S. economic sanctions and export controls."

A 24 episode? Probably not.

Intel Celeron chips in Cuba: paging Jack Bauer? Probably not.

The letter continues. "We note that your Form 10-K does not include disclosure regarding contacts with Cuba, Iran, Sudan, and Syria. Please describe to us the nature and extent of any past, current, and anticipated contacts with the referenced countries, whether through distributors, resellers, licensees, or other direct or indirect arrangements."

The letter was cited earlier in The Wall Street Journal.

And what kind of computers are we talking about exactly? (It would strain credulity, I think, to cue in a Jack Bauer narration--"The following takes place between 7:00 a.m. and 8:00 a.m"--here.) The SEC letter offers this:

"The Cuban PCs have Intel Celeron processors with 80 gigabytes of memory (sic) and 512 RAM and are equipped with Microsoft's Windows XP operating system. Both could be violations of a U.S. trade embargo, but not something Washington can do anything about in the absence of diplomatic relations with Havana. Clerks said the PCs were assembled by Cuban companies using parts imported from China."

Maybe there's more to this than meets the eye but a lowly Celeron chip (one of Intel's bottom-of-the-performance-barrel processors) is hardly the chip to designate as a threat to national security. In short, data-crunching server farms--assuming they exist--in Cuba are not built with Celeron processors.

For the record, an excerpt from the Intel response is as follows: "Intel has no business contacts with the Subject Countries, either directly or indirectly through tacit agreement with its customers. Intel does not provide products or technology to the Subject Countries...."

A more productive line of inquiry--by another U.S. government agency--might be: Where on the world market might these countries be buying sophisticated multiprocessor computer hardware based on, for instance, the newest high-end Intel Nehalem Core i7 processors?

Now, there's an idea for a future "24" episode.

Brooke Crothers has served as an editor at large at CNET News, an editor at Dow Jones' Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, and a senior editor at InfoWorld. His CNET blog covers chip technology and computer systems, and how they define the computing experience. He also contributes to The New York Times' Bits and Technology sections. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. Follow Brooke on Twitter @mbrookec.
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by Canberra-photographer August 7, 2009 1:59 AM PDT
I think it's been proven in many experiments that the big danger is with graphics cards and graphics focused CPUs like the Cell in the PS3.
I've not seen a Celeron chip yet capable of running a simple screensaver without stuttering much less posoing a risk to security.
The graphic processor though could potentially do some damage!
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by mbenedict August 7, 2009 4:30 AM PDT
Depends for what use. For complex simulations (e.g., to design sophisticated nuclear bombs) then of course the Celeron would be underpowered. For controlling guided missiles, a Celeron-class processor is far more than adequate. Then again, the Manhattan Project managed to produce atomic weapons without any digital computers at all.

But this is all irrelevant. Technology embargo to Cuba is meaningless. Cuba can get any mass-produced electronics via Chavez & Venezuela. If they need sophisticated computers -- to crack encryption codes used by political dissidents, for example -- they can simply buy them from China or Russia. Even North Korea would be able to provide Cuba with advanced weaponry... no need to build their own using smuggled U.S. hardware.
by saadhusain August 7, 2009 2:48 AM PDT
Give them Vista and with the Celeron and 512MB they would be stuch in morass for several more years!
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by MeepMan August 7, 2009 6:44 PM PDT
Ya, give them the 64-bit version just for the hell of it. After all, they'd work just as well (on the same computer).
by MacSnob August 7, 2009 5:13 AM PDT
Who knows what evil lurks in the minds of terrorists. They could take these low power computers and link them up to create a botnet to do DOS's (Denial Of Service) to any one they choose. Maybe the latest DOS to TWITER was related to Cuba's Celeron equipped XP PC's. All these clowns need today are a bunch of low class/power PC'ss (innocuous by them self) to shut down a network. Don't brush this off so lightly. Granted a Celeron XP PC by its self is not much of a threat but several thousand linked up? Now that can do some serious mischief. Think of the big picture not the small one.
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by tektaktyks August 7, 2009 5:28 AM PDT
omg... nobody finds it plain stupid?
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by aMUSICsite August 7, 2009 5:45 AM PDT
Yep it's plain stupid just like most of the USA's trade embargo's. How is Cuba even a threat any more?
by sparrowhyperion August 7, 2009 5:46 AM PDT
I find it very stupid, with some major additions of moronic and paranoid thrown into the soup.
by MeepMan August 7, 2009 6:45 PM PDT
I think US is half scared because from a global standpoint, Cuba looks like it'll shove a load of celeron crap up our @$*h01es
by MeepMan August 7, 2009 6:50 PM PDT
Sorry, from the map standpoint... Dang it! Now it doesn't sound as good...
by wigmo August 7, 2009 6:02 AM PDT
I would think a celeron processor of today is far more powerful than the P3's of a decade ago, and we still had the export controls then on those "simpler" PC's. We managed to go to the moon with computers that had less power than cell phones of today. Who is to say a terrorist state couldn't use that processing power or learn from that technology to advance their agenda's?
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by MeepMan August 7, 2009 6:51 PM PDT
Trick... We did the calculations by hand. Also, we had (now considered) amazingly low chances of success.
by ITcomposer August 7, 2009 6:07 AM PDT
Um Intel Celerons, well for starters these pcs are in the hands of Cuban nationals, and not the cuban goverment, secondly Cuba uses Satellite based interner access, the undersea fiber that links cuba to venezuela won't be layed till 2012 if i recall correctly, so even if they wanted to DDOS anyone, they would choke on their bandwith strain. Third, getting parts from china is well, easy heck you can buy Windows Vista in english let alone XP from the chinese, so no surprise here.
The real worry comes when that fiber cable is layed and the cubans start to acquire our top of the line quad cores and octo core systems, but given that the cuban goverment just announced deep economical cuts (read they are losing money) i doubt that is going to happen...anytime soon.

Just my 2cents.
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by rapier1 August 7, 2009 10:35 AM PDT
Ummm... you don't need quad core chips to power a denial of service attack. How much computational power to do you think you need to assemble a packet header? All you need is a decent bus speed to drive the packets out of the NIC. Even so, no government would launch a DOS from their own soil anyway. If they really cared they could just buy time on a botnet and control it with a dial-up line. They won't though because there is no advantage to be gained by it.
by gggg sssss August 7, 2009 4:08 PM PDT
Its not the ddos that I am afraid of. Its re-arming and re-aiming teh leftover Russian missles frm JFK days
by pithenumber August 7, 2009 6:32 AM PDT
omg
we're all doomed

terrorists have celerons!

if they get their hands on a nehalem or a high end graphics card
that would be news
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by MeepMan August 7, 2009 6:54 PM PDT
Core Duo would make the news. Now, if they got their hands on Alienware, that would be a huge problem. They might actually figure out how to make the damn thing run...
by gwailo247 August 7, 2009 6:40 AM PDT
Somewhere deep in Havana....

5 ? "Stupid capitalist pigs"
10 GOTO 5

Bwahahahahaha!
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by frier78 August 10, 2009 4:14 PM PDT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! I ROFL'ed so hard... that's great.
by SlimGem August 7, 2009 6:50 AM PDT
One of the PCs I use at work has a Celeron.

I wouldn't wish that piece of crap on my worst enemy.
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by MeepMan August 7, 2009 6:53 PM PDT
Ya, a pentium III we have lying around could barely run 98. Celeron barely even compares to that! The best use for those poor old boxes would be as ammo.
by pugster August 7, 2009 7:12 AM PDT
Imagine what happens when Cuba gets hold of Pentium dual core processors.
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by akahele August 7, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
my 14 year old boy has an i7 quad core, dual pci nvidian 260s, 12 gigs of ram and he can't do his own math homework.
What's the real story here?
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by vvdiaz August 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT
???? Your 14 year old boy is loosing his time on Facebook... ;)
by Pete Bardo August 7, 2009 10:55 AM PDT
It took the SEC more than a year to follow up on that news story. Maybe they're the ones who need an army of Celerons!
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by RMarch August 7, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
This is ridiculous. I live in Amsterdam and the rest of the world vacations in Cuba! There is every high end processor you can imagine in Cuba. That is the point. Silly for the US government to call out Intel because there are Celerons in Cuba. These are not F-22 Raptors.
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by DigitalFrog August 7, 2009 12:31 PM PDT
Is this going to devolve into a "Bay of PC's" with hundreds of IBMPC's parked off USA's shores in Cuba??
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by gggg sssss August 7, 2009 4:09 PM PDT
wait till they get iPhones with the secret chinese back door. Kiss your Miami cell towers good bye.
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by MeepMan August 7, 2009 6:48 PM PDT
AT&T towers don't reach the house 5 blocks away, let alone Cuba....
by pithenumber August 8, 2009 3:08 PM PDT
they reach 5 blocks away?

I thought they only went 4 blocks
by appledogx--2008 August 7, 2009 8:35 PM PDT
Politics, law and reality sometimes sharply diverge. Celeron chips in Cuba? Is anybody really surprised? Perhaps government needs to open its eyes in the 21st century and worry about export of things like plutonium and nuclear materials. They have Windows, too???? They must get viruses as well, then. This could be a strategic advantage. I'd be much more worried if the Cubans had Macs. We'd be in big trouble!!! I guess tourists or business people NOT from the United States never take PCs or Macs to Cuba? Maybe some rafts full of PCs from Florida made the journey on their own!! Horrors.

Is this what the SEC is spending your tax money worrying about??? If so, we have bigger problems than Celeron chips. Why doesn't government concentrate its effort on important problems that are abound.
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by gggg sssss August 8, 2009 9:51 AM PDT
if OMG is allowed, why was my **** O M F G censored last week
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by gggg sssss August 8, 2009 9:53 AM PDT
densored again
by EvanSei August 9, 2009 3:10 PM PDT
I can see it now " mr.president this is huge you know they could make a nuclear guidance chip out of these celeron processors" "what os do they have" "windows xp" "sound the alarm" "oh wait intel made a mistake they are running vista" "oh don't worry about it those things will crash before they can get anywhere with them" thank you microsoft for protecting the homeland, oh wait microsofts coming out with windows 7? a good os? oh sh**
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by Forked_Tongue August 11, 2009 5:02 PM PDT
Oh thank God they're using Windows, heaven help us if they use an OS more capable for the hardware like Puppy Linux or Damn Small Linux, then we might have something to worry about. XP running on 512mb ram... ha ha ha ha.
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by NoVista August 11, 2009 6:52 PM PDT
Oh, golly gosh, another "look over here ... shiny" distraction.

They missed the real story from three years back: certain mil-spec chips outsourced to Taiwan ...
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