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June 7, 2009 7:00 AM PDT

Religion aside, is Mac better than Windows?

by Brooke Crothers

Updated at 6:45 p.m. PDT with additional discussion about OS X local search.

I once was a God-fearing Windows user. But when an Apple shrine, uh, store opened in my area, I began to ask myself the age-old question that has confounded even the greatest biblical prophets: Is the Mac better?

I avoided the Mac for years for the usual reason cited by the Windows faithful: a dearth of hardware and software. (The so-called Mac tax was never really an issue for me.) That said, I won't go into a broad platform critique because I risk rehashing Windows-versus-Mac religious arguments that have been repeated millions of times for (digital-age) eons. (Besides, I'll leave that faith-based debate to the digerati of the world.)

Suffice to say, I now use a MacBook full time. Though, in the spirit of complete disclosure, I do have a Vista-based HP tower that I still use when there's something I absolutely can't do on the Mac. And, no, I have not gone the Boot Camp or virtual machine route yet.

So, without getting into an unwieldy philosophical argument, there are some nuts-and-bolts things that make the transition a challenge (and it's different for everyone, as every user has different needs.)

And one more disclaimer: I'm writing this from the perspective of a Mac neophyte/new user. Not as a seasoned Macophile that can instantly troubleshoot issues as they pop up.

Docking stations (lack thereof): This is a biggie. I had grown attached to the convenience of Hewlett-Packard docking stations. Apple should have connectors for docking stations (or port-replicators) built into MacBooks. The ease of popping an HP business laptop--which I had been using for years--in and out of a docking station cannot be overstated.

Microsoft Entourage: This is not the Windows Outlook equivalent. In a word, it's slow. In two words, very slow. (Note: I can't use the OS X "Mail" client because it can't run the email programs that I use.)

Web compatibility: All things should be equal here. But they're not. Like many people, I use both Safari and FireFox. Last week, there was a live video stream that, while it loaded on my MacBook Air, wouldn't run. The applet was there but it wasn't streaming. I didn't have time to figure out why it wasn't streaming. I just needed it to work. Out of desperation, I tried it on the Vista-based HP tower. It streamed immediately. In my book, that's a problem. And generally, on many Web sites that I use, Windows Media Player (that is, WMP v.11) is more adept at streaming video than the applets that come standard on the Mac OS X platform.

OS X local search: OS X local search is great (e.g., Spotlight) but it won't let me exclusively search a folder full of JPEG files. This issue was validated by a Mac "Genius" at my local Apple Store who admitted it was "odd." Let me repeat, an Apple Genius verified that I could not do this. Of course, I can find these files a dozen other ways but there's an application I use everyday that would be a lot easier to use if I could search JPEG files exclusively in that folder.

(Update: After a second visit to my local Apple Store and a separate discussion about changing the user short name--which the Genius did, as this process is a little tricky--I can now do JPEG searches on one of my MacBooks. I do not know how this came to be fixed, however, as it was an unintended consequence.)

Hardware compatibility--in this case, camcorders: I found this out quite by accident. I was in my local Best Buy (Southern California) and overheard one of those illuminating matter-of-fact dialogs between a customer and a salesperson. "Are all of these camcorders Mac compatible?"--the customer asked. "No," the salesman said. "Only the Panasonic and Canon." After the salesman was done helping the customer, I followed up with more queries. The upshot: Most other brands are not Mac-compatible, according to the Best Buy sales force. Does a Best Buy salesperson always know the bottom-line, gospel truth about hardware compatibility? Probably not. But the larger point is that's what he is telling customers. And it's always an ugly reminder of that cliche that a lot hardware is not compatible with the Mac.

The Mac philosophy of how to use external displays: This, I suppose, is more a philosophical argument than a practical argument. But, to me, the way Windows handles external displays (with a laptop) using Fn-F4 is straightforward and extremely practical. And--returning to the lack-of-a-docking-station argument--inserting/removing a laptop into/from an HP dock is so well executed that it becomes second nature to the user: the internal laptop display shuts off, the external display goes on, and the external display automatically adjusts the resolution. Again, this may be partially a case of me simply being more accustomed to the Windows way of doing things--but not completely: Windows wins the ease-of-use award here.

No built-in 3G option: I've talked about this before in other posts. HP, Dell, and others offer integrated 3G connectivity. That said, I fully expect that this will become less of an issue when 4G hits, as I am confident that Apple is savvy enough to stay in front of this trend.

Of course, the list goes on (lack of development momentum from some software vendors on the Mac, being another minus often cited). But I would be remiss at this point to not preemptively answer the critics who will say, "Well, if you're going to whine all the time, go back to Windows you a#%*!#@." (And that's putting it charitably. Mac minions tend to be slightly more contemptuous.)

The reason I switched to Mac (if anyone really cares) was hardware, not software. I looked at all of the HP, Dell, Lenovo, and Sony laptops and saw nothing that came close to a MacBook Air. Not even remotely close. The Air is an incomparably well-balanced design that is light, fast, and aesthetically a knockout, to boot. The other unibody MacBooks inherit these attributes too.

Oh yeah, Mac OS X beats Windows in a lot of ways. You can run Windows, after all, if you choose, with Boot Camp or VMware Fusion. And all of the well-known virtues are true. You're not constantly on Virus/Worm/Malware alert, the interface is more intuitive in some ways, it's more streamlined than Vista, it boots faster, and the list goes on. I guess I can live without a docking station--for now.

So, as of summer 2009, which is better, Windows or Mac? Dare I ask?

See also:
Switcher's lament: The case against Mac

Brooke Crothers has been an editor at large at CNET News, an analyst at IDC Japan, and an editor at The Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, among other endeavors, including co-manager of an after-school math-and-reading center. He writes for the CNET Blog Network and is not a current employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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by sxydeeny June 7, 2009 7:11 AM PDT
have a great Sunday
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by Mr. Dee June 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT
I want you all the see my response.

Windows PC's are better because they work, boot fast enough and are very secure. Windows Vista comes out of the box ready for whatever task the throws at it. There is a larger degree of application and hardware compatibility. Everybody knows Windows, everybody uses Windows, including Mac users, either through BootCamp or a virtualization solution. Please stop this nonsense!
by pithenumber June 7, 2009 3:07 PM PDT
@Mr. Dee
"Windows Vista comes out of the box ready for whatever task the throws at it."
unless the OEM decided to put crapware on the system that is
by tm_anon June 7, 2009 4:12 PM PDT
Windows PCs are not better, they're just more abundant. Quantity =/= Quality, unless you think the absolute best food in the world exists in McDonalds.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 5:12 PM PDT
Mr. Dee
You are completely full of it. Your argument holds no water at all. And shame on you for stooping to such a cheap trick as to post your nonsense at the top under an unrelated post, just so your drivel will be seen first. Cheap shot. One Windows computers are not "fast enough", they are often bogged down by anti-malware applications, They are anything but secure. They are big wide open targets for all sorts of cyber criminals and ne'er do wells. Vista does NOT come with everything you need out of the box. I spent half my time with a new install, downloading ancilary apps to make it as functional as a Macintosh. Heck, I can't even open a PDF without downloading and installing third party software, let alone create one on a Windows machine. And that's just one example.

NO, not everyone knows Windows. Thank GOD! And not everyone uses Windows, thank God again!

The only nonsense here is the drivel that you are spewing forth. But based on your past posts, I expected no more from you.
by benjwah June 7, 2009 7:17 PM PDT
Windows
by ewelch June 7, 2009 8:45 PM PDT
@Mr. Dee,

Hahahahah! WIndows works out of the box? Oh, that's a good one. Tell us another joke!
by Mr. Dee June 7, 2009 9:14 PM PDT
Go ahead all of you, hate me for telling me truth. Its just your frustrations with wanting be different or something why you buying Mac, you are all seeking some attention that you probably lost somewhere in your life. Please, if its that bad just get a face plate for your laptop and call it a day. There is nothing, nothing, nothing wrong with Windows. To the individual cussing about PDF, geez, there are hundreds of free PDF utilities out there, downloading one will take only a minute or less. Are you that desperate for PDFs? I have installed Vista on so many systems and it produces the cleanest device manager of any OS. There is no reason for the negativity its just unnecessary hate built up for nothing. Please, move on. I predict that by October 22nd 2009, the majority of Intel Macs will be running Windows 7, accept it and take in the WOW!
by deric_raymond June 7, 2009 10:38 PM PDT
I don't think Mac users are frustrated.
by deric_raymond June 7, 2009 10:39 PM PDT
and that majority of Macs running Windows 7 prediction, not a hope in hell.
by tm_anon June 7, 2009 10:50 PM PDT
@Mr. Dee

I actually use Ubuntu, not a Mac. I installed Ubuntu over XP because I was frustrated with Windows. Guess what happened as soon as I started Ubuntu full time (2 days after installing).

No guesses? Ok, I'll tell you. For the past 3 years, I've had this constant yet just barely liveable stress headache. I got rid of Windows and that headache went away.
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by thefinite June 7, 2009 7:12 AM PDT
I'm confused about the Spotlight complaint. Open the folder containing the JPEGs in the Finder, then type the text string in the search box at the top of the window. Make sure you click the name of the folder just under the window's toolbar.

This is a Spotlight search of a folder. I use it all the time on folders full of PDFs. Is this not what you mean?
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by MauMan June 7, 2009 7:46 AM PDT
I think what he saying is he has a folder of mixed types of files and he only wants to search the .jpgs in the folder.

A workaround might be to create a smart folder that points at the original folder to filter only the .jpgs and then search off of the smart folder.
by jstant June 7, 2009 7:53 AM PDT
MauMan, you CAN do this.
by xhable June 7, 2009 8:10 AM PDT
Point isn't whether it can be done or not, but that "an Apple Genius verified that I could not do this"... The fact that it is possible just higlights that in providing an easy to use interface you inevitibly have to miss things out/move them aside.

More often than not those things won't be used very often at all, but when you want to do it, it's frustraiting to have to figgure out the complexities : a confusing interface with lots of options is better in this case if you already understand it.
by quiet hand June 7, 2009 8:40 AM PDT
This is the difficulty in treating things as black and white. How you communicated what you wanted to do from the Spotlight search elicited that response, which may be technically accurate... I'm not sure you can add a folder-specific search from the Spotlight menu in the toolbar. But asking the same genius HOW to do find such files in a folder would certainly have generated a LIST of ways to achieve what you are attempting, it just requires the same shift in approach that many MAC/PC issues require. If what you want is OSX to do what you want THE SAME WAY as Vista et al, then you are barking up the wrong tree.

MS has copied Apple in every way it could, IMO acknowledging it's own software's inferiority, while still maintaining a more "under the hood" style, that has trained people to think about computers a different way. It is unfortunate. I use both and could list ten things that totally drive me nuts on a PC on a daily basis mainly because I already know another methodology for doing the same thing more simply. I could list other things the PC does better, like rendering PC-centric sites (which is more a fault of MS than anyone... Mac's a FAR more flexible in content rendering), and command-tabbing through all open windows, not just app's, like OSX does. It all comes down to personal opinions and working styles, so it will never be elevated to a true black and white conclusion.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:40 AM PDT
I too am a bit confused by this. If you are looking for a certain JPEG, just type the name and voila, it's there. If you want to BROWSE through your JPEGs, also easy. Just type "jpg" in Spotlight and you'll see every JPEG on your computer. If you want to just see the JPEGs in that one folder, open it in list format and click "Kind" at the top and they'll be sorted by type. Better yet, open the window in Cover Flow and then sort by Kind. You'll be able to flip through them, previewing each image as you scroll down the list OR flipping through the previews. There's always Quick Look too for a quick peek into each file.
by jgaltUSA June 7, 2009 9:37 AM PDT
I recently had a situation where I lost the ability to search within a specific folder with Spotlight. The option to select the current folder was no longer an option. I spent several days trying to resolve the problem (deleting prefs, creating new users, etc.) with no success.

I called Apple tech support and they were not any help in resolving the problem. (I have been a Macs user and a Mac consultant for 20+ years so I really did not expect them to have a magic solution to my problem.) I ended up having to do a clean install and restore to get the normal search functionality back.

So perhaps the Apple Genius was just confirming that it could not be done on his laptop, not that what he was trying to do was not possible on a Mac.
by dkosiur June 7, 2009 9:55 AM PDT
Instead of going to Spotlight in the menu bar, open the folder you wish to search, then type in what you want to search for in the Search field (which uses the Spotlight technology). In the new line that appears below the Search field, select the named folder rather than "This Mac". Then, click the + sign at the far right, select Kind is Images, than instead of "All" , select Jpeg and only the JPEGs in that folder will be shown.

If you want to restrict the search to a date range (or something else), click the + sign again and add your other search criteria.

If you're happy with the search, Click the Save button (in the line just below the original Search field) and the search criteria you just created can be saved to the sidebar for further use.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 9:57 AM PDT
@jgaltUSA
If for some reason Spotlight's index gets corrupted. You can force it to reindex. The simplest method is to open Spotlight preferences in System Preferences. Click on the Privacy tab. Click the plus symbol at the bottom and choose your hard drive (might work to just choose the problem folder). Then log out and back in (I restart to make sure). Then open System Preferences back up, navigate to the Spotlight pane, click Privacy, then click on the hard drive in the list and click the minus sign. Close System Preferences. You will notice that Spotlight is reindexing your drive if you click on it in the menu bar. On the rare occasion I had something I knew was there not being found, this fixed it.
by jgaltUSA June 7, 2009 10:07 AM PDT
This particular problem had nothing to do with indexing.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 10:12 AM PDT
@jgaltUSA
Permissions problem? There have been times when copying a folder from a network machine or when I get corrupted permissions I can't search a folder.
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by arhoch56 June 7, 2009 7:18 AM PDT
If you want a docking solution, go to Bookendz.com. Pretty much the only game in town for MB & MBPro docking solutions, but very effective...
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by jgaltUSA June 7, 2009 9:41 AM PDT
The correct link is: http://www.bookendzdocks.com
by Hep Cat June 7, 2009 10:17 AM PDT
"The Mac philosophy of how to use external displays"

I don't get this one at all, but I'll make sure tot rethink it next time my Dell-using cohorts are struggling to get the projector to light up, madly hitting fn-F4 over and over again, waiting, then hitting it again....
by derilium June 7, 2009 10:34 AM PDT
@Hep Cat: On windows 7, you can just press Windows + P. On windows vista, you can press Windows + X and click connect external display.
by G|Net June 7, 2009 4:01 PM PDT
did you guys look on the Bookendz site before posting? If so you would've noticed there are no docking stations for MacBook Air.... which is what the author's complaint was.
by MacMasteryTX June 8, 2009 5:54 AM PDT
The MacBook Air only has power, USB, Mini DisplayPort and sound. It's like half of the ports of normal laptops. I'm not sure I see the productivity advantage of using a dock for that kind of computer. For a regular one, I can see the argument. However, I use an MBP 15 and don't personally feel the need.
by dzankizakon June 7, 2009 7:33 AM PDT
I own a MacBook aluminium and run Vista on it. I'm very happy with the hardware, and very happy with the software.

I'm a software developer and need to carry my laptop around all the time. To be perfectly honest, most of the HP, Dell and Lenovo laptops are simply ugly. I could just not find a HP/Dell/Lenovo laptop that I would not be ashamed to open in front of other people. Hence I decided to get a MacBook which allows me to run Windows and do my job but also look good at it. ;-)

Thank you Apple for making beautiful products. Thank you Microsoft for making a great operating system.
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by June 7, 2009 11:56 AM PDT
...............wow.
by sting7k June 7, 2009 12:26 PM PDT
Rock on brother!
by June 7, 2009 2:00 PM PDT
What about all the poeple thinking you are wastful and vain? That doesn't bother you?
by kcotham June 7, 2009 2:05 PM PDT
What's with these posts that have no by line? Is it by users that have closed their accounts? Just curious.
by Seaspray0 June 8, 2009 7:54 AM PDT
Like the story or Romeo and Juliet, but with a happy ending.
by Renegade Knight June 8, 2009 12:14 PM PDT
Thinkpads don't win prizes for looks. However I have found them to be so much better designed that every other laptop I've used (except for a Dell that cloned the Thinkpad) that I finally was able to use a Laptopkeyboard by itself without plugging in a real keyboard for the sake of efficiency.

My Toshiba and Macbook tie for crappiest keyboard of any maker. The macbook/pro is missing keys (keys their desktops actually have) that would at least help make them more productive. I have also found issues with the design of the USB ports on the MacBook. They are too close to gether.

For these reasons, much as I like the Macbook for features and such, I'd rather build a Hackintosh around a ThinkPad than try for force a Macbook to do a job it's just to pretty to understand. I got the Black Macbook. The white and aluminum ones are far uglier than the Thinkpads.
by dzankizakon June 13, 2009 7:58 AM PDT
I agree that MacBook is not perfect. Yes, USB ports are too close, but I only noticed that once, and it's not a showstopper. What bothers me more is that the sound output is too low even on the highest setting. Also, battery life in Vista is mediocre - I get around 3 hours when wi-fi-ing and with Aero on. Keyboard takes a little while to get used to - I miss the Home and End keys with a single keypress, but I redefined the Alt, Windows keys to my liking by using Registry Editor and some other keys and now I'm working as fast as on my previous PC laptop.

However, I previously had a Dell and HP and they had their own problems, it's just that they were different problems - for example, HP's USB ports were on the right, which is awful if you prefer to use a mouse instead of the touchpad, like me.

All in all, it would be brilliant if someone invented a way for us to design the laptop just the way we wanted - down to the last detail. In the mean time, I find my MacBook with Vista to be the best compromise between form and function I've seen so far.
by Perry_Clease June 7, 2009 7:34 AM PDT
Web compatibility? Yes I wish Safari was compliant the way Explorer is.
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by SeizeCTRL June 7, 2009 8:03 AM PDT
LOL
by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:15 AM PDT
Safari and other WebKit browsers ARE web compliant. They usually score top scores on ACID tests. It's non-compliant code that causes the problem. There are still clueless web-designers out there still using non-standard IE-only code. Blame them. I've had issues to where a site only worked properly when using IE for Windows. No other web browser (Mac OR Windows) would work. That's just poor design. Makes me just want to reach through the computer and slap the moron that made that site!
by tektaktyks June 7, 2009 8:26 AM PDT
please,safari is crap,firefox beats it 1000000000000 times
by protagonistic June 7, 2009 8:28 AM PDT
I detect a note of sarcasm in your response. :-)
by Spartan_458 June 7, 2009 8:29 AM PDT
Firefox 3 + IE Tab add-on. I've never has a problem opening any webpage.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:43 AM PDT
Safari for Windows actually works better than Firefox for Windows. Had a web form that I needed to fill out. It stated it was to be used on IE for Windows. It wouldn't even open in IE for Windows. FireFox for Windows opened it, but wouldn't let me submit the form. Only Safari 3.2 for Windows would open the form, and let me submit it. Ironic huh?
by jumpjetta June 7, 2009 8:52 AM PDT
I think Safari 4 Beta is better than anything else I've tried. Safari 3 was okay, but still required me to use Firefox a few times here and there. I haven't needed to open Firefox once since I installed Safari 4.
by Perry_Clease June 7, 2009 8:59 AM PDT
"I detect a note of sarcasm in your response. :-)"

CNET isn't the only one who can write click-bait :)

"please,safari is crap,firefox beats it 1000000000000 times"

My comment wasn't about FireFox v Safari, but Explorer v W3

I am thinking I should create a webpage titled "Free photos of hot chicks" with photos of baby chickens, ducklings, goslings and such. The photos would have titles such as "young breasts", "young thighs", and such that it will indexed by search engines as a porn page. Then with a browser director I would redirect Explorer to a page that says you must have a web compatible browser in order to view the photos.
by pithenumber June 7, 2009 10:12 AM PDT
@kcotham
IE is far from compliant, but it works with more web sites than compliant browsers
IE is still used by a majority of people so many web developers develop for IE

I like IETab for Firefox in Windows, on any other OS, I recommend emulating IE

the situation you had wasn't normal
for every website that only works with Safari, there are hundreds that only work with IE
by Perry_Clease June 7, 2009 10:35 AM PDT
"IE is far from compliant, but it works with more web sites than compliant browsers"

That is because the web designers and coders are not writing compliant pages, they are writing for a browser that is not compliant.
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by protagonistic June 7, 2009 7:48 AM PDT
I enjoyed your article. It is nice to see an article not bashing either OS. As for your Windows movie problem, there is a commercial program with a free basic version that handles this problem for me quite nicely. I use the free version and it is called Flip4Mac. It adds the necessary codecs to QuickTime so that Windows movies play in QT. I have used it for several years and it has worked as advertised. Just double click on the movie and it plays.
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by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
Yes, Flip4Mac works quite well. I go one step further and request that every site using WMV also provide a standard MPEG-4 version of their video. Some actually have!
by kc6hur June 7, 2009 9:13 AM PDT
I use a free program called VLC to play WMV's. If you want to rip DVD's Handbrake does a great job and the latest version of handbrake requires VLC be installed because Handbrake uses VLC's libraries.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 10:13 AM PDT
MacTheRipper is what I use to rip my DVDs. I burn them with Toast to back them up.
by El_Gringo_Guapo June 7, 2009 7:52 AM PDT
>Microsoft Entourage: This is not the Windows Outlook equivalent. In a word, it's slow. In two words, very slow. (Note: I can't use the OS X "Mail" client because it can't run the email programs that I use.)

Mail.app is an e-mail program. I'm assuming you're talking about Plug-ins? Mail.app is, however, Exchange compatible. Entourage is slow but accommodating for Outlook-types.

As far as a docking station--that is what the LED Cinema Display is--a 24" LED display w/ a built-in notebook charger, USB ports, iSight, and video cable. If you have a first-gen Macbook Air (non-DisplayPort), then you have a point but there are still options available (ext. monitor, bluetooth mouse/keyboard, etc.)

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html << Check the specs.
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by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:19 AM PDT
He's probably using an Exchange server, the bane of every IT manager. Good news is, Mac OS X 10.6 will provide support for Exchange right out of the box.

His being a recent Macintosh owner, he probably is averse to using other Apple products. But you are right El-Gringo, the LED Cinema Display would be a perfect solution for him.
by Spartan_458 June 7, 2009 8:31 AM PDT
Well, as long as he didn't mind paying more than it's worth for it.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 9:12 AM PDT
Well, he'd not only be getting a nice, beautiful, bright, well-reviewed display, he'd also be getting a docking station built-in. I call that a good deal.
by kelmon June 7, 2009 9:29 AM PDT
Docking solutions, as we know them for Windows-based notebooks, do not exist. This is because the Apple notebooks do no provide a single "do it all" port that a docking station can plug into that will handle power, video/audio and other connections. All the "solutions" available for the Mac are a fudge that still requires you to plug in multiple cables. I love my MacBook Pro but this is one area that the likes of Dell, HP, etc. are much better.
by KnowWay June 7, 2009 11:16 AM PDT
Not sure why you need a dock anyway. I plug in the power and the external display for my MacBook - Done. Everything else is wireless anyway (Time Capsule, Internet, Mouse, KYBD, Printer, etc.). But for sure my Dell dock works great... NOT. I have had multiple times when a USB peripheral simply would not work with it. Yes it is convenient to pop the laptop in there, but the time spent booting the darn thing would be better spent plugging in a display cable on my MacBook.
by El_Gringo_Guapo June 7, 2009 7:55 AM PDT
PS: It's not whether a Camcorder is compatible w/ a Mac or not--it's whether it's compatible with iMovie '09 or Final Cut.

High-definition (AVCHD) cameras work just fine w/ iMovie '09 and Final Cut, esp. the JVC Everio HD series.
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by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:23 AM PDT
A lot of the times when a sales person says that a device is not compatible with a Macintosh, what they really mean is that the crappy software included with the device does not have a Macintosh version. But plug the device into a Macintosh and it usually is able to be used by Aperture, iPhoto, iMovie, Final Cut, etc. If a device uses a standard format for transferring data, it will be compatible. If it uses a proprietary format, check with Apple. Chances are the "drivers" are already included in Mac OS X.

Listening to sales staff when talking about Macintoshes is usually a waste of time.
by SteveMcQwark June 7, 2009 9:17 AM PDT
Never ask a sales rep about any competing technologies. They will always be biased, because their store will most likely have signed a contract with one competitor to boost sales of their product in exchange for "compensation". The number of times I've caught a Best Buy rep misrepresenting a competing product to make a sponsored sale is just ridiculous. Future Shop is only slightly better.
by rrod182 June 7, 2009 9:56 AM PDT
Best Buy sucks. They are over priced too, full of over paid under-informed kids that barely graduated high school. If you are going to ask a retailer for advice you may as well give up and just start burning your money.
by jgaltUSA June 7, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
I recently purchased a Sony XR500 HD camcorder at Best Buy. The camera does not come with any Mac compatible software but it worked great out of the box with my "pre-installed" mac software without having to install any software from Sony.

I opened iMovie and and I was editing my first high-def footage just minutes after taking the camera out of the box. I was also able to open iPhoto and and instantly transfer all of my still shots from the camcorder. Then minutes later I was crating my first DVD with iDVD and uploading my awesome footage to the internet with iWeb. Wow, the mac software was so intuitive. My first project was so easy to do, the final results looked so professional, and best of all I did not have to spend hours installing anything or figuring out how to use Sony's craptastic software.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 10:19 AM PDT
Sony is one of the worst offenders in the Windows-only software category. There are workarounds for most of their hardware though. I was quite enthusiastic about my W580i Walkman phone when the AT&T guy told me it was Macintosh compatible. Only when I got it home did I realise that you can't even upgrade the phone's software without Windows. I tried it on my Windows 7 partition when I got it installed, no go because there is no driver for the phone's memory. Go figure! To sync the phone, I originally had to pay for a iSync plugin for something like $5. But since then, Apple has included this model in their list of compatible phones.

The PSP, I can manually drag and drop files to device, but the Sony software is useless (Windows-only).

Sony is virtually Mac OS hostile. If you contact their support to request Mac OS version of their software, they are either non-responsive or rude. Personally, until they change their tune, I'll never buy another Sony product again. And that's a shame because they make some really nice devices.
by baconstang June 8, 2009 10:07 AM PDT
There are camcorders other than Canon and Panasonic? Who knew?
by empirestatebuddy June 7, 2009 7:59 AM PDT
Which is better? Eh... it depends on what you use your computer for, BUT... I would like to point out one important thing you said... and I've heard many Mac users say the same thing... that they keep a Windows PC in the house (or run Windows on their Mac). In other words, when you own a Mac, you need a PC for back-up... because Macs simply can't do everything that a PC can.

Most Windows users DO NOT keep a Mac in the house... just in case. And that's just a fact. ;)
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by mayhem6ix June 7, 2009 8:04 AM PDT
I got rid of my PC when it crapped out on me years ago and do not keep one in the house for back up. I don't use bootcamp or anything like that, why would I want to infect my mac with a virus or worm or who knows what?
by protagonistic June 7, 2009 8:43 AM PDT
I have to disagree with what that idea. Do I have a PC in the house? Yes. Does it have Windows installed. Yes, but only until the Windows 7 RC expires. The only reason I have Windows is because after almost 6 years I have a hard time remembering things I need when my Windows using friends call me up for help.

"In other words, when you own a Mac, you need a PC for back-up... because Macs simply can't do everything that a PC can.

Most Windows users DO NOT keep a Mac in the house... just in case. And that's just a fact. ;)"

Two facts not in evidence. Most Mac users do not keep a PC in the house just as most Windows users don't Keep a Mac. Most use one or the other. The problem is not that you can't do pretty much anything on a Mac that you can do on a PC, rather it is that in many cases it is hard to move your data from a Windows program to a Mac program that will do the same thing. Most people I know who have made the switch, once they get used to the new way of doing things, never look back.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 9:14 AM PDT
@protagonistic
That is one of the chief reasons I have Windows 7 on my MacBook. As soon as it expires (maybe before if I need the drive space back), it's gone.
by kc6hur June 7, 2009 9:18 AM PDT
The only reason I keep Windows around is so I test my web software against IE AND the fact that the HUGE expense I have in software. I just cannot afford to go out and replace all the software I have for a Mac version. Can you say ADOBE? Geeze their software is so expensive.
by kelmon June 7, 2009 9:25 AM PDT
With the exception of those people who want to run Windows games, and those who need to run Windows applications for work, I'm honestly not sure why you would need Windows in the home. While I would certainly agree that Windows users wouldn't keep a Mac around because Windows can do everything, I do wonder how many would use the Mac if they had access to one simply because some tasks are easier to achieve with one.
by computernerd2010 June 7, 2009 9:50 AM PDT
when you own a Mac, you need a PC for back-up


lol, okay, i will never use windows os pc as a backup...why? lets just say horrible experiences too long to comment about. the only windows based product my apartment is the xbox360
by rrod182 June 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT
Most Mac users were PC users in the past, hence the backup PC that they didnt bother to throw away when they got the mac. The only thing my PC does that my mac doesn't is crash.
by Lazlo666 June 7, 2009 10:29 AM PDT
"The only thing my PC does that my mac doesn't is crash." -- best quote of the day!
by protagonistic June 7, 2009 12:38 PM PDT
@ rrod182
"Most Mac users were PC users in the past, hence the backup PC that they didnt bother to throw away when they got the mac. The only thing my PC does that my mac doesn't is crash."

I wouldn't go that far. My PC runs Ubuntu/FreeBSD beautifully. And I have to admit Windows 7 seems to be pretty stable so far, but way over priced. :-)
by clzx June 7, 2009 7:45 PM PDT
I am a Mac owner & I still have my old PC in the house for back-up. (Neither of my macs have the bulk and/or weight to prop open a door. apparently macs can't do everything...?)
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by JasonGooljar June 7, 2009 8:01 AM PDT
As a PC user who really has no urge to switch to Mac (even with the debacle that was Vista). I await Windows 7 which is getting positive buzz. I really don't see there being a day with Apple will wrestle the OS market from Microsoft.
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by Spartan_458 June 7, 2009 8:32 AM PDT
It's hard to chip away at a 90% market share. Look at the reverse with the iPod and the Zune.
by protagonistic June 7, 2009 8:51 AM PDT
I am a Mac user, but used Windows for more years than I care to say. If you are happy with XP but hate Vista you may be a bit disappointed in Windows 7. I have been running the Beta and the RC for some time now and 7 borrows a lot more from Vista than it does XP. That being said it is a nice change and once you get used to the changes I think you will probably like it. & runs very great on 2gb of RAM. I have also removed 1gb and can tell you it runs very nicely on that as well.

MS will one day lose its dominance and will be replaced by something else. Rather than OS X it will probably be something entirely new that displaces both. :-)

Anyway, I think you would be happy with OS X if you had to use it for awhile, but for you there is no compelling reason to switch. Just as for me, there is no compelling reason to go back to Windows even though 7 is very nice. Now if MS would prive 7 like Apple does OS X I would probably buy a copy just to play with, but the price they charge for a full version of Ultimate is a bit on the obscene side.
by kelmon June 7, 2009 9:20 AM PDT
True. As a general rule, in order to wrestle market share from a competitor you need to have a good product yourself and for them to mess up. This clearly happened with Microsoft and Vista but neither Apple or Linux managed to capitalise enough on Microsoft's mistake. Windows 7 is definitely a "home run" for Microsoft so I don't see their market share changing much over the coming years unless Cloud Computing really comes of age (at which point the cheapest OS that will get you onto the cloud will probably win).
by EricJM001 June 7, 2009 8:01 AM PDT
I saw the light back in the summer of 2004. It was a gut wrenching, soul searching, PowerBook G4 purchase that (at the time) felt very risky. It could only run Windows in a slow virtual machine. I had never had a Mac before and didn't know if the software would be enough for me. The PowerBook quickly became the only computer I used.

Today the MacBook Pro is my Desktop replacement of choice. Leopard shipped two years sooner and is every bit as good as Windows 7, maybe even better if you consider Time Machine & Spaces. And with Boot-Camp I can switch back to Windows whenever I want to play games or run AutoCAD. I truly have the best of both worlds. Thank you, Apple.
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by empirestatebuddy June 7, 2009 8:05 AM PDT
This is a perfect example of what I said above. As impressive as Macs are... many (if not most) Mac owners keep a PC in the house... or run Windows on their Mac. When you own a PC, you don't need a Mac in the house.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:27 AM PDT
Incorrect. Most people I know that use a Macintosh don't run Windows at all. I for one, use is rarely, and only to stay on top of things, experiment with Windows 7.

I, as most people, do not NEED a PC or Windows. To say they do is a fallacy. I went eleven-plus happy years without ever running a PC or Windows at home.
by jumpjetta June 7, 2009 9:00 AM PDT
Yeah, I can think of 8 households in my immediate circle of friends that switched from PCs and now have only Macs. And I think only one of them has VWWare for some proprietary piece-of-crap VPN software.

Your Mac-users-keep-a-PC comment is based on... what??
by protagonistic June 7, 2009 9:02 AM PDT
@empirestatebuddy

Have you seriously used a Mac before? And I am not being negative with that question. From my experience most PC users I know would, in fact, be better off with a Mac in the house. And yes, I do have a PC in the house. But I use it mainly for BSD/Linux and only run Windows 7 because it is free for the time being. My experience has been the opposite of yours. Most people I know who have made the switch keep a PC around not because they use it to do anything in Windows, but because they hate to get rid of a perfectly good computer. Most Windows users are not really gamers and gaming is the main reason you would need to keep a Windows machine.

As a side note, the only computer games I have found to be worthy of playing do not run in Windows anyway. (I always did like Planetfall). :-) Infocom forever... :-)
by kelmon June 7, 2009 9:16 AM PDT
Frankly, I only run Windows on my Mac because I need to for work (MS SharePoint is used heavily these days and there's a few ActiveX browser applications) and use the Mac applications where possible. While it is certainly true that I need Windows, and I am sure that we'd get by in the office without a Mac, there are certainly times when the software on a Mac allows us to things that are either difficult or expensive to do on a PC.
by pithenumber June 7, 2009 10:23 AM PDT
@Eric
don't equate using a new OS with spiritual enlightment
by kcotham June 7, 2009 12:31 PM PDT
@3.141592653589793
For some, it is just as liberating to be rid of Windows.
by pithenumber June 7, 2009 2:26 PM PDT
@kcotham
so Apple is a religion?
by kcotham June 7, 2009 4:03 PM PDT
@3.14159
Get a sense of humour will ya? I was kidding you. Apple isn't a religion, but it beats dealing with Windows every day.
by ti99_forever June 7, 2009 8:06 AM PDT
About Microsoft Entourage: Yes, it is slow, but it *is* by Microsoft. But what do you mean by "I can't use the OS X "Mail" client because it can't run the email programs that I use."?

I use it for email, works great. I use Entourage for newsgroups.

About live video streams - you are comparing an older, mature system vs. a new system. When you buy a new PC, you often have to install plug-ins for your browser to show video (Flash player, etc). You can try Flip4Mac at www.flip4mac.com, it installs Windows media components for Quicktime.

Spotlight - Assuming you are in Finder in the folder you want, you can simply type what you want in the Spotlight window of the Finder windows upper right corner. Make sure you also click on the folder name that will appear just under the window bar (as it defaults to "This Mac" and "Contents" - silly defaults, if you ask me.) You want to just search that folder, and usually by name.

Don't believe EVERYTHING you hear about compatibility. Most things are compatible, regardless. You can always try them and return. I bought a Memorex external DVD writer - it works, albeit for some reason Firewire locks up the Mac, so it is on USB.

And I was trying Windows Beta 7 on my mini, until Ubuntu's Grub wiped it out during installation. I was going to wipe it anyway. But now I can boot OS X or Ubuntu...
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by 8301 June 7, 2009 9:35 AM PDT
"But what do you mean by 'I can't use the OS X "Mail" client because it can't run the email programs that I use.'?"

Mail is not compatible with all Exchange servers, or alternatively, some IT managers specifically avoid allowing users to use Mail, Thunderbird, etc. with their Exchange servers. Someone more technically versed than I could tell you why.

As for Entourage being slow, yes, it is, just as a mail program written by Apple probably wouldn't be as quick on a Windows machine as one written by Microsoft. Also, Entourage performs the functions of Mail, iCal, Address Book, Stickies, etc., so I would imagine it would be slower than a program that is only an e-mail client (Mail). (That being said, I'd rather use Mail et al. than Entourage any day.)
by kcotham June 8, 2009 12:14 PM PDT
Snow Leopard, that will be out in September, has Exchange compatibility built-in.
by infinityends June 7, 2009 8:08 AM PDT
I appreciate the article. New Mac users do run into issues in a world still frequently dominated by Microsoft. Web Compatibility: here I'm assuming you were trying to play a WMA file which is not natively supported by Quicktime. There is a free plug-in download from Microsoft called Flip 4 Mac (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/wmcomponents.mspx) which allows wma files to play seamlessly in Quicktime.

As for web compatibility in general, my understanding from the blogosphere is Safari is the most web standards compliant major browser available - beating both IE and Firefox in that regard. So web sites built on web standards are rendered beautifully. Web sites built specifically for IE's needs are going to be somewhat problematic. I think in the long run, we all would prefer our web sites be built to web standards allowing us to use the browser of our choice as opposed to being forced to use whatever browser Microsoft force feeds us.
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by kelmon June 7, 2009 9:01 AM PDT
Just to play devil's advocate here, Flip 4 Mac does not play protected WMA files. Apparently the reason is because Microsoft won't license that part of the technology to Telestream but that doesn't help end-users much.

Safari may indeed be the most standards-compliant browser but that's not much help if the web sites you visit have been designed for IE or even Firefox. Standards-compliancy is great but unless your browser is either the most popular or renders content the same way as the top browsers then you may find things don't work. While I don't much like the browser because it isn't a real Mac application, we must give a lot of thanks to Firefox for getting enough share of the browser market such that sites are now designed for a standards-compliant browser rather than simply IE.
by dkosiur June 7, 2009 9:59 AM PDT
You didn't say what format the streaming video was using. If protected WMA then you definitely have a problem on the Mac -- thanks to Microsoft. But, to support other formats, get Perian (http://perian.org/), which is free. Just abotu anything plays now.
by Renegade Knight June 8, 2009 12:22 PM PDT
Oddly, Microsoft used to offer it's own plug in for a Mac to let them run WMV's. This was the first problem I had to solve on my Mac.

As for browsers. Thanks to Safari and Firefox (I'll give both credit) everone is starting to pay more attention to using standards and not juse IE modified standards. Even IE.
by sellitman June 9, 2009 8:38 PM PDT
infinityends:

Great comments! I have Firefox on my Macs but I have found myself using Safari almost exclusively.
by tektaktyks June 7, 2009 8:13 AM PDT
"I looked at all of the HP, Dell, Lenovo, and Sony laptops..." i wouldnt look at them,i'd look at acer or alienware,depending how much i wanted to spend.
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by compbry15 June 7, 2009 8:26 AM PDT
Yea look at alienware if you want to look like a total geek, rather than a professional. There was a time where I wanted an alienware, but that was back when I was 16. (Note: looking at their site now, the laptop designs aren't AS bad as they used to be, but they are still pretty bad)
by tektaktyks June 8, 2009 11:13 AM PDT
geek and a professional...hmm
by J-Subin June 7, 2009 8:16 AM PDT
When I was a mac-neophyte myself, I made the mistake of using entourage, because i had been used to Outlook! Don't make the same mistake!

Entourage is slower, has more bugs and can not run scripts as easily as the Mac Mail program that came with your Macbook! Also there are so many other options here as well, but I have grown very attached to the Mac Mail program.
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by kcotham June 7, 2009 9:19 AM PDT
It does everything I need to do and is wonderfully integrated into the Mac OS, iCal, and Address Book. That makes it every bit as useful (more so if you use iCal and Address Book already) than any third party e-mail client. I used to use other e-mail clients until Apple came out with Mail.
by michael_j_x June 7, 2009 8:17 AM PDT
Nice to find a Mac user that is actually willing to aknowledge his system's shortcomings. Don't get me wrong, I really like Apple's both hardware and software design. However, what strikes me as odd is that Mac usually won't admit that their machine is not perfect. I recently got to use a MacBook Pro but not the unibody version, the one before that (aluminium). I found the keyboard very tiny, and even my dell xps 1330 has larger keys. When I asked the owner about it he said he never had an issue using it. and that you just need to get used to it. But I remember him whining about the keyboard of a Toshiba laptop he ones had, and why Toshiba was forcing him to get used to a different keyboard layout . But when it came to his Mac, no complaints at all. Talk about double standards
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by michael_j_x June 7, 2009 8:18 AM PDT
meant to say Mac users usually won't admit that their machine is not perfect
by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:55 AM PDT
It isn't that most Macintosh users won't admit the computer system's shortcomings. It's that most people using Macs have found ways to do the things they want to do, they aren't stuck in a Windows mindset. Crothers sounds like another CNET Windows-centric Mac newbie, Rafe Needleman. When you stop looking at the Macintosh through Microsoft-coloured glasses, things aren't as difficult as they once seemed. If you'll look, Crothers' so-called problems are because he is trying to do things in a Windows way. Myself, and others here have offered him solutions to these so called problems.

As for faults, yes, every computer has them. I have an early 2008 model MacBook. I hate the sharp edge of the computer. I am also not crazy about the key design. I prefer the keys on the keyboard of my PowerBook by a long measure. And being left-handed, why in the world did they put all the ports on the left side, right in the way of my mouse?

You mixed arguments when using your friend as an example. You argued keyboard size in one comparison, then key layout in another. Obviously your friend has a harder time getting used to layout than key size. I personally have no problem with the MacBook Pro's keyboard size. I just don't like the new key design, with the gaps between the keys. It isn't as easy to type on, takes a tiny bit more pressure. And my fingernails are hitting the gaps between the keys all the time, a bit annoying when compared to the PowerBook's keyboard.
by protagonistic June 7, 2009 9:15 AM PDT
You need to talk to Mac users instead of cruising these sites. :-) Most of what you get in here are advocates of one camp or another. Mac users in the real world are usually willing to admit they have problems. I know happy Windows users and I know happy Mac users, and I know people who are happily using both. But I know of none who says their machine is perfect.

And I have to admit I do not like the new small keyboard that comes with the iMacs. A friend of mine switched to an iMac and I told him he should get the full size keyboard. And when I switched to a Mac a few years back it took me less than 15 minutes to unplug the Apple mouse and plug in my old Logitech mouse. I have to admit that for me the Apple mouse sucked. :-)
by michael_j_x June 7, 2009 9:26 AM PDT
the argument is, that in both cases he needed to get used to a new type of keyboard. I only heard him complaining for one of them. And I never hear him complain about having to dual boot to play his games. I find dual booting a big pain, as I have to dual boot often from Vista to Ubuntu for my developing needs. What I am saying is that I 've yet to meet an Apple user that will willingly admit that he/she has at least some issues with the machine.
And yes, people using Macs will find ways to do thing they want to do. So will people using Windows. But unlike Mac users, people using Windows expect to find a card reader on their pc, or the ability to connect to any type of hardware available, and will rightfully complain about it.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 10:30 AM PDT
@michael

What hardware is it that you can't use with a Macintosh? Must be something for a special purpose because I haven't found anything that I needed that wouldn't work on one of my Macs, and usually I just had to plug it in for it to work, no downloading drivers.

All computers have their quirks and all are capable of creating a headache for its user. What I will say is, I've had far more headaches due to Microsoft products than I ever have due to Apple's. And I've got plenty of keyboard time in front of both, so I know.

Only one occasion have I ever wished my MacBook had a card reader built-in. I forgot my cable to my Olympus camera and wanted to upload some photos while I was travelling. It was a minor inconvenience at most. But to have all those extra slots and extra hardware taking up space in my otherwise small MacBook just isn't worth it. If I really want to pop cards into my computer, I'll use a USB card reader. I'd prefer to keep my card firmly seated in the camera anyway. It's less wear and tear on the card and the camera. If you include slot readers, you'd have to make sure you had a reader for every format card anyway, what a pain. If my XYZ brand computer had a card reader, would it have had a xD slot? Maybe, maybe not. I'd rather buy an all-in-one card reader for the times I want it.
by pithenumber June 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT
@kcotham
the PSP, you told the internet that in an earlier post
by kcotham June 7, 2009 4:04 PM PDT
@pi
What are you blathering about? You know what, don't bother trying to explain.
by tektaktyks June 7, 2009 8:24 AM PDT
"You're not constantly on Virus/Worm/Malware alert"-if mac's had more enthusiasts u would be. and im using windows(7 now-had vista and xp before) and im not on any constant alert,i only run avg free edition,for years and i ask myself ,how do these ppl get viruses all the time?do they open emails with some retarded subjects that u can tell right away its a spam,do they go and click in those links in the emails?i dont know,whatever it is i dont think u can cure stupidity with a mac.
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by quiet hand June 7, 2009 8:53 AM PDT
You can't make the argument that the two systems are equally vulnerable. I do agree you can't cure stupidity with a Mac, for sure... but you can't pretend that the dozens and dozens of millions of Mac users out there don't dismiss this long-standing argument. People write malware because they CAN, and when the OS their machine forces them to use insults them on a consistent basis, they respond. This is not a MAC/PC issue, it is a MS issue disrespecting its users and abusing its marketshare. Apple gives you a machine that is obviously designed by people who value the user experience, though perhaps do not cater to every niche established by PC tinkerers and power users. They make their mistakes... with single button mice, DRM, etc., but they CORRECT those mistakes, offer vastly superior customer support, and generate a stable computing environment that is attracting switchers in droves. The out-migration from the OSX environment is practically nil... where lies the fuel for messing with an operating system?
by kcotham June 7, 2009 8:57 AM PDT
Just cleaned three pieces of spyware off my Windows 7 partition using F-Secure. I haven't been to any questionable sites that I can remember. Interesting.
by retnep June 7, 2009 1:13 PM PDT
One thing that's puzzling to me is that this is a CNET blog. The Windows problems mentioned here are so basic that they would only effect a novice user. Yes, you need a virus scanner and possibly a registry editor/fixer for Windows to ensure that the Windows machine doesn't get overly bogged down or corrupted. However, if a person on a tech blog can't keep their machine running sprightly, then maybe they aren't really that tech savvy. Maybe this isn't a tech blog at all.

'My Mac is pretty'. Wow.
by kcotham June 7, 2009 2:08 PM PDT
The same could be said of Mr. Crother's "problems" with his Macintosh and the "problems" presented here as reasons for not owning a Macintosh by those who in all likelihood have never owned one.

Oooh, "my PC is cheap", wow! ;-)
by June 7, 2009 2:39 PM PDT
@quiet hand Are you trying to suggest that people write malware for windows because they are mad at MS? There is little malware for Mac OSs because there are fewer Mac users. Bottom line, if you're going to spend the time writing malware then why rescrict your self to less then 10 percent of all personal computer hardware.
by tm_anon June 7, 2009 4:53 PM PDT
@tektaktyks

My ex roommate was running AVG free edition on XP, then his machine stopped being able to automatically update virus definitions so I uninstalled AVG, installed Avira AntiVir and just ran a scan without updating (since it still couldn't auto update). I found 30 viruses and pieces of malware.

Maybe you should try the same thing, betting you have some hidden malware that you just don't know about.
by tm_anon June 7, 2009 4:57 PM PDT
@tektaktyks

My ex roommate was running AVG free edition on XP, then his machine stopped being able to automatically update virus definitions so I uninstalled AVG, installed Avira AntiVir and just ran a scan without updating (since it still couldn't auto update). I found 30 viruses and pieces of malware.

Maybe you should try the same thing, betting you have some hidden malware that you just don't know about.

@unnamed person

With all the FUD that Macs are for the more financially capable and that Windows is for the common people without much money, why would a person writing software meant to capture financial data restrict himself to a bunch of people who most likely have very little money compared to the few with vastly more?

I know if I ever wanted to steal cash, I wouldn't steal a dollar from a million people, I'd steal a million from one person. Just makes sense.
by ppgreat June 7, 2009 8:28 AM PDT
I'll admit it. The Mac is not perfect. The lack of built-in 3G is a perfect example.

But I find personally that I am much more productive (and creative) in a Mac environment than a Windows environment. And in talking to friends and colleagues who have switched to a Mac, their most frequent comment is that, once they get acclimated to a new OS, it is much easier to get work done on a daily basis.

The one expectation that Windows users often have is that they can just do things they way they used to (email, web, word processing, etc.) I remember a switcher at work actually complaining to me that he couldn't get used to the fact that he could do things in fewer steps on his new Mac than he could on a PC!
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by kcotham June 7, 2009 9:07 AM PDT
The number of 3G adherents is quite small. Coverage is spotty, speeds are not what they are advertised, and the data plans cost a fortune. It's no surprise that Apple opted to not include the hardware.

I've actually heard similar complaints. They stated it without realising it though. They'd complain that they couldn't do something the way they were used to. I'd ask them how do you do it on your Windows computer, they'd tell me the half dozen steps. I'd tell them the two mouse clicks necessary to do the same thing on a Mac. They'd just look all frustrated and say "It's not the same". I'd reply, "exactly, it's easier".

Case in point. My boss at my new job wanted me to do some complex charts in Excel (for Windows). Not being a total stranger to Excel, I set about the task. It took me about an hour to get the chart to work right and look right. Just for fun, when I was home, I tried it on my Mac Book using Numbers (a program I have rarely ever even opened). Within 15 minutes, I had a better looking chart. I could do a better job with Numbers in 0 to 15 than I could in over an hour with Excel. Granted Excel can probably do more than Numbers, but this illustrates a big difference in design philosophies between Apple and Microsoft. Microsoft concentrates on being everything to everyone and packing as many features as humanly possible into their software. Apple on the other hand concentrates on ease of use and being most everything to most people. That is just one of many example I've discovered over the past ten years or so in which I am MUCH more productive on a Macintosh. That is why I chose a Mac. And I'm sure Mr. Crothers would be too if he'd just stop trying to do things in a Windows/Microsoft way.
by davemc49 June 7, 2009 8:32 AM PDT
Searching - yes, the Spotlight text box is very convenient for simple searches. But the Finder's File/Find menu function is also easily available - and using that allows one to easily set up a search in a specific folder for a specific file type - no need to find any fancy and non-intuitive work-around. Too bad your Apple Store Genius wasn't more"genius".
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by DanRobinson June 7, 2009 8:37 AM PDT
I could take each paragraph above and write a reasoned reply, but then I'd write a reply the same size as Brooke's column and I have better things to do with my family on a Sunday.

But a few just cry for a comment.

1. Web Compatibility -- Don't use Boot Camp or Parallels. Use Wine . . . a nice Merlot maybe.
No. I mean Darwine to run Windows Apps without having (or buying) Windows. !
Find instructions here: http://lowendmac.com/mac2win/09m2w/darwine.html

2. Local search -- Sure it will search just a folder of JPEGS or anything else.
Open the folder. (i.e., NewPics") There's a search box in the upper right of the window.
When you type a search term in that box, a line is added between that and the main
window; [Search This Mac "NewPics" | Contents File Name]

If you REALLY want power . . . check out Applescript. It's already on your Mac.

3. External Monitors -- If your Mac doesn't automatically "Detect Displays," open
[System Preferences / Displays] and check the box [Show displays in menu bar].
Then if your Mac doesn't automatically do it, pull down the display icon from the
menu bar and [detect displays].

There's lots more but my weekend is waiting!
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by kcotham June 7, 2009 10:32 AM PDT
AppleScript is really powerful, but even a beginner can leverage Automator to streamline tedious tasks. And isn't that what computers are best at, doing tedious tasks so we don't have to? Automator and AppleScript are the unsung heroes of any Macintosh.
by kazzmedia June 7, 2009 11:13 PM PDT
This might almost stand a chance of being a compelling article if you had any idea what you are talking about. If you are going to bother make a comparison, at least take the time to research both sides. I spent the better part of 20 years as art director for a company that refused to even try Macintosh. It was a period of endless, unjustified headaches. When I finally went out on my own, I made the switch and not only were my daily problems solved instantly, I was doing things I never realized were even possible.

Moses asked God, and God said, "Yes!"
by Dalkorian June 8, 2009 10:18 AM PDT
by kcotham June 7, 2009 10:32 AM PDT
Automator and AppleScript are the unsung heroes of any Macintosh.

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