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May 27, 2009 1:45 PM PDT

Intel: The future of Netbook vs. notebook

by Brooke Crothers
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Intel said Netbook cannibalization of notebook PC sales is about 20 percent in Europe, according to a news report Wednesday. But this trend may ebb later this year when the "affordable" ultra-thin laptop category takes off, leading to a cannibalization reversal of sorts.

Christian Morales, Intel's European sales chief, said Netbook sales were about 16 percent of all notebook sales globally, and a little higher in Western Europe, according to Reuters. "In Britain and Italy they may account for as much as a quarter of all notebook sales," he told Reuters.

Netbooks are small, inexpensive laptops--typically below $500--designed for Web browsing, email, and less-demanding media applications.

Intel Netbook share was about 16 percent in March of this year

Intel Netbook share was about 16 percent in March of this year.

(Credit: Intel)

Intel's marketing chief, Sean Maloney, presenting at the company's investor meeting on May 12, said that the share of Atom processor-based Netbooks out of the total mobile PC market was about 16 percent in March. (See "Netbooks Mix of Mobile PCs" chart.) And he showed that the market share for Netbooks--month to month--hovers around 15 percent.

"The market has not all lept over to Netbooks," Maloney said at the meeting. "We're very comfortable with having established the (Netbook) category. We believe now that Netbooks are an under-distributed product line." Cannibalization, when it occurs, tends to affect low-end laptops based on Celeron processors, he said. "Atom is eating into Celeron. And we're quite fine with this," Maloney said.

Intel's ramp of inexpensive ultra-thin CULV laptops may eat into Netbook sales

Intel's ramp of inexpensive ultra-thin "CULV" laptops may eat into Netbook sales

(Credit: Intel)

Then later in his presentation, alluding to Intel Consumer Ultra-Low-Voltage (CULV) chips due to appear in inexpensive laptops starting in June, he said that this is "an opportunity for upsell. We don't need to give this stuff away. The industry doesn't need to give this stuff away. We can reach new price points and we can also get paid for it." CULV processors will be based, to a large extent, on Intel's Core 2 architecture, which offers better performance than the Atom chips used in Netbooks.

Maloney's comments imply that CULV-based laptops will offer stiff competition for Netbooks, especially high-end Netbooks priced above $400. Many CULV notebooks should fall into the $599 to $799 price range--the upper range of Netbooks--according to Ashok Kumar, an analyst at investment bank Collins Stewart. And some major PC makers expect CULV to become one third of total latop sales by next year, Kumar said.

Though no one can forecast how popular these new inexpensive thin laptops (think: MSI X-Slim series or a hypothetical $800-$900 Apple MacBook Air) will be, Intel is obviously expecting the category to take off. (See "Ultra-Thin Affordable Volume Ramp" chart.)

Maloney said growth markets for Netbooks are children--he said this market is still under-served--as well as Netbook bundles with telecommunications service providers. Verizon, for example, is now offering Hewlett-Packard Netbooks with 3G functionality built in.

Brooke Crothers has served as an editor at large at CNET News, an editor at Dow Jones' Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, and a senior editor at InfoWorld. His CNET blog covers chip technology and computer systems, and how they define the computing experience. He also contributes to The New York Times' Bits and Technology sections. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure. Follow Brooke on Twitter @mbrookec.
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by FearNo1 May 27, 2009 2:28 PM PDT
Nice. I may be in the market for a 12in thin/lite laptop this fall. I have owned dell's 700m for a few years now. I just can't see myself buying a netbook. They are too small and lack DVD-/+RW drive.
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by snoodthebubble May 27, 2009 2:35 PM PDT
Windows 7. . . it's good. Bundle it with a 12" ultra thin, light but not overpowered notebook and you've got a winner. Is it as good as OSX? No idea as I've never tried it but I'm loving Windows 7 RC on my (heavy) 15" laptop!
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by tm_anon May 27, 2009 6:29 PM PDT
The article was about hardware, not software. It's great that you love Windows7, I love Ubuntu.

Put Windows 7 on it and I still won't buy it, put Ubuntu on it and I might. Put any other Linux distro on it and I still might.

Now, can we get back to what the article was talking about?
by Dalkorian May 28, 2009 9:51 AM PDT
W7 is slaveware for people to stupid to administer a real computer. But that wasn't the point of the article, was it now you prostitute? Now run off and tell you master Ballmer that you have done his evil bidding. Maybe he'll pay you again.
by FearNo1 May 27, 2009 2:47 PM PDT
Nice. I may be in the market for a 12in thin/lite laptop this fall. I have owned dell's 700m for a few years now. I just can't see myself buying a netbook. They are too small and lack DVD-/+RW drive.
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by Mr. Dee May 27, 2009 3:10 PM PDT
I am in agreement with everyone above, although I have used a 13" laptop and its quite small in my opinion, so I can just imagine a 12". But add Windows 7 (Home Premium or Professional) to the mix and it should be good product.
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by tm_anon May 27, 2009 6:44 PM PDT
Like I said for the above poster, the article is about hardware. Put Windows 7, you'll buy it. We all know you'll buy it since you comment about loving Windows so much.

I comment about loving Linux a lot but at least I realize the article is talking about hardware.
by Seaspray0 May 27, 2009 8:42 PM PDT
@tm_anon. You make a valid point. As for the hardware... The netbooks of today are roughly equivalent to the notebooks of a few years ago. Given the stagnation we've seen in processor speeds, maybe we've finally hit the limit on Moore's law. For the raw computing power coasting along, I think there's a point where we don't see the need to add more memory or increase the number of pixels on the screen. In steps the netbook which gives us basically that but in a more portable size. What do you think? Will netbook sales taper off? I'm guessing they still have quite a bit of growing power left. The lack of optical drive is a dissadvantage, but is that also becoming a thing of the past? Flash drives can now be purchased in 16 GB sizes now. Do flash drives or portable hard drives perform well enough to suppliment the lack of optical drive? I find that I use an optical drive less and less these days. I could easily do without it as long as I have one in the desktop at home. Care to comment where you think the hardware will head in the future?
by Dalkorian May 28, 2009 10:01 AM PDT
@Seaspray0 - I think we're starting to see the same thing happen to optical drives as happened to floppy drives years ago. Namely, optical drives are becoming a limiting factor. How many gigs does your hard drive hold now, over 200Gb yet? That DVD drive is limited to what, 4.5Gb?

They won't go away anytime soon, but they're definitely fading away already. It's currently possible to buy laptops that don't have an optical drive in them.

You may have hit the nail on the head with flash drives.
by t8 May 27, 2009 3:50 PM PDT
Netbooks are very useful.

I keep one in the boot of my car and thus I always have a computer with me wherever I go.
I keep no data on it, my data is kept on a memory stick which I plug in.

Laptops are of course more functional, but I don't like carrying a laptop around with me unless I have to and I am certainly not going to keep one in the boot of my car.

So if I don't have my laptop and I have some time to kill, I can whip out the Netbook and do some coding, surf the Web, or whatever.

It is also very useful as it can play movies. So my young son likes it too.
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by Seaspray0 May 27, 2009 8:43 PM PDT
Does your netbook include an optical drive?
by karlmy953 May 28, 2009 2:37 AM PDT
Yeh.....with all this ..I'm going to buy a netbook, Been using a Palm XM and has preformed well for years .....ideally I use it primarilly for contacts and personnel info. Think HP will develop an 10" ?
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by NickNine May 28, 2009 7:07 AM PDT
The market that is still truly under-served is folks like me that need more than a PDA but do not want to lug around a full size laptop (even a thin one). If I want to do heavy duty graphics or audio I will use a desktop that I can expand, upgrade and modify as needed. For the bulk of stuff I would do on the road an Asus Eee works just fine. As T8 alluded to if one keeps all one's data on an encrypted memory stick then the pain of having a $349 dollar Netbook stolen is not nearly a great as losing a $799 laptop.
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Brooke Crothers has served as an editor at large at CNET News, an editor at Dow Jones' Asian Wall Street Journal Weekly, and a senior editor at InfoWorld. His CNET blog covers chip technology and computer systems, and how they define the computing experience. He also contributes to The New York Times' Bits and Technology sections. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network and is not an employee of CNET. Disclosure.

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