AMD taunts Intel, hoists EU flag
Advanced Micro Devices is flying the European Union flag on its home page. A little gloating going on?
And if the image doesn't convey the message, the caption does: "European Commission finds Intel guilty of breaking antitrust laws, harming consumers."
AMD's current home page flies the EU flag
(Credit: AMD)That's not all. AMD's Break Free page is a treasure trove of information on the EU case and Intel's alleged bad behavior. "Read the European Commission's Press Release Detailing its Ruling Against Intel" and "Read the European Commission's Questions and Answers Detailing its Ruling Against Intel"--are a few of the selected readings.
AMD likes to say that it spearheaded the movement to dual-core processors (quoth AMD: "without AMD there would be no price pressure on Intel, dual-core processors would still be a year away"--quoting a 2006 media report on its Break Free site) and out-innovated Intel in the server market in the 2004 to 2006 time frame.
So, the first AMD 32-nanometer processor is due when exactly?
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their Mobile Cpus especially are awful !
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I wonder wat the EU is going to do with all the Money they stole ?
Just shut your mouth and stop whining to every government in the world that Intel is monopoly! Try to complete with Intel head-to-head with that Arab's oil money!
If Intel goes away, would be able to supply the world? No you can't!. Your Arab sponsors can only give OIL!
What the heck are you ranting about? It's totally off subject, jeesh!
Gaaah, now I have Duelling Banjos in my head.
"AMD likes to say that it spearheaded the movement to dual-core processors and out-innovated Intel in the server market 2004-2006 time frame"
THEY DID, Intel was still trying to sell us Netburst based Pentium Ds as their first dual cores, the extreme edition couldn't beat AMDs cheapest Athlon 64 X2, they had energy effiecent server chips long before Intel brought core to market, based on performance/price they should have had 80% market share during 2004-2006 but then thats why the EU gave them a record fine isn't it ?
the other month i bought a laptop with an AMD turian x2 72 which was running 2.1ghz, and ATI HD3200 I have just a few words to describe it: it sucked! both graphics and processor sucked. I didn't even bother to put win7 on it: the processor got a 3.9 and the ATI got a 3 in vista. I brought it back and changed it to a laptop with an intel t4200 running at 2ghz that came with an intel GMA 4500mHD, the intel processor got a 4.6 and the GMA got 3.8 in vista. in Win7 the proc got 5.1 and GMA 4.9.
again due to the lack of an integrated graphics chip AMD could not have increased their marketshare by a whole lot.
the Radeon HD 3200 is far more powerful than the GMA 4500MHD
I experienced both, did you? i don't think so. I think you're closing you're putting your hands up to your ears closing your eyes and shouting "la la la la, Radeon HD 3200 is better, la la la". I told you my experience with both, and i gave the score vista and Win7 showed me.
I've experienced both
the Radeon is far faster for me and it has been faster for most people
It's childish.
In the commercial game the rules are not at all clear, or even who the opposing team is, or who the fans are, and what team they are rooting for.
But the problem now is in both professional sports, and commerce is "who is the game for?" the players or the fans/customers. Who actually "pays" for the game? Because the game should always be for who pays. Once the fans/customers get disinterested in your team and your game you can play whatever hell game you want, your team will be irrelevant. The EU come down on the side of the fans, (represents the interests of the customer) you know the ones that elected them. (hint, hint US, investigate this model and you might prosper.)
When the competitor comes up with better product, of-course the other guy would come up even
better architecture . Thats what happened.
Now, will they comeback? Dream on mor*n!
without AMD I'd be using a 5GHz single core Pentium 7 with a 300watt TDP
and AMD has already made a comeback in the low end arena
Ph2 720 rulez
stop it guy, even intel's x7400 bests the Phenom 2 720, plus the phenom has a higher TDP than the intel.
the phenom uses 134W at idle and 191W at load, while the inel uses 118W at idle and 152W at load. with the phenom any little money to thought you saved will be going right back in your electricity bill. plus the phenom2 720 is not cheaper than the intel e7500, lol. the phenom2 720 is $145 while the intel e7500 is $133 and the e7400 is $113.
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-phenom-ii-x3-720.html
plus the intel e7500 is a beast in overclockability, the phenom2 goes up to 3.8ghz while the e7500 easily goes up to 4.2ghz on air.
[CNET editor's note: Obscene language deleted.]
The facts are: Intel was found guilty of leveraging it's might against a rival in an unfair way. This rival, AMD, actually had better processors at the time this is supposed to have happened. Whether they do now, is not relevant.
It is absolutely non-sense to claim that AMD forced to Intel to innovote and you would be using
P7 blah blah
First understand that AMD doesn't have a history of innovation. And AMD exists because of Intel.
They were not the first one who came up with multi-core. It existed on other CPU architecture. They were the first one who brought to PC world.
why couldn't they repeat the success? Instead, they keep boasting about it.
the Phenom 2 720 BE is 95watt chip and is faster than the C2D E8400 and sometimes the E8500 both of which cost a good deal more than the Ph2 720
and the review you linked to recommended the Ph2 720 as a good budget overclocker
Really from a competitive stand point though, AMD still wins on performance for the price. Unless Intel is finally putting some downward pressure on prices, AMD's chips, while not as fast as the fastest of Intel's, are considerably cheaper.
Unless Intel comes waay down in price, or so amazingly tramples AMD in performance, I'm not interested.
You know why they like to say it? BECAUSE IT'S TRUE! You were an idiot if you chose an Intel rig during that time frame; I recommended the AMD X2 3800+ to nearly everyone at that time.
However, AMD is not doing as bad right now as Intel was at that time frame; their Phenom's are somewhat competitive at the lower price points. Of course, they're no Nehalem. :)
~Ibrahim~
Yes, selling at the lowest possible price point is the only way they compete because That. Is. The. Very. Definition. Of. Competition. That Intel sought to avoid this by buying off manufacturers shows a little more clearly who's having trouble actually competing.
Now, I'm sure you've got to type a reply to every other comment in this post as though we hadn't all seen the first 15 comments you left.
Moron.
Just shut your mouth and stop whining to every government in the world that Intel is monopoly! Try to complete with Intel head-to-head with that Arab's oil money!
If Intel goes away, would be able to supply the world? No you can't!. Your Arab sponsors can only give OIL!
What American company isn't?!
http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=688071&fromSearch=0&sik=1242498187165
... Director, Government Relations ;^)
For nearly AMD's entire life they've failed to generate a profit. They literally only exist because the government put a gun to Intel's head and forced them to license technology to AMD (the alternative was, the government would have attacked Intel via anti trust). AMD is and always will be a parasite that lives off of Intel's innovations. Now they're living via government regulation meant to slow Intel down because AMD can't compete fairly.
They started with Intel's tech.. Around 2004, they improved that tech. had some luck.
Not anymore... They are bleeding now. Arabs helped them out.. lets see what happens...
Intel wanted to sell to IBM.
IBM required at least two sources for all parts in the IBM-PC.
Intel set up AMD as the second source.
Given that Intel have such a dominant position because of the IBM-PC which they only could get into because they licensed their designs to AMD, the words 'cart' and 'horse' spring to mind.
Since the Am386 they've been designing their own chips from the instruction set and writing their own microcode. If slickuser thinks he's so smart, maybe he can do better.
u too.....
Nice come back. I've never trolled.
go back to filthy EU
Go back to kindergarten, nitwit.
are you still here? go back now...
It's people like you that make me wish Darwinism still held true with human beings.
Intel products are pretty damn good, in my personal experience, AMD products are nothing special, and finally, this fine is definitely going to drive up PC prices. Everything antitrust is supposed to do... it's simply not in this situation.
But, I have to say the majority of you writing in here must me awfully young or you have very short memories. If it weren't for the likes of AMD and Cyrix you would still be buying the CPU and Math coprocessors as separate units. Intel only pushed out new products when they had to in order to compete.
(You do remember what a math coprocessor is, don't you?)... :-)
Did coke reveal its secrets to Pepsi? no. Why couldn't AMD come up with
its own CPU architecture?
It is easy to copy someone's technology and improve it.
AMD holds patents for x64... Which Intel needs.
for Intel to implement its own x64 instructions and provide AMD x64 compatibility without much overhead given
the fact that future processors will have at least 4 cores. Any performance impact by this will be negligible.
Now, before you go to bed, think about what will happen if AMD loses x86 license. Let me know if you had slept well
Now, could someone just cut off Slickuser's fingers please? Someone needs to learn to use their brain.
You can't expect no Intel followers to read CNET articles.
or You can't expect Intel followers to NOT read CNET articles.
we are going to fund gay married couples adoptions processe's........maybe work a little atheism teaching modules in schools into it too....
What do you imagine a governmental organisation does with fines, funds itself to lower the tax burden of it's citizens....
AMD is flying the EU pirate flag, the one EU uses to steal money from American companies like MS and Intel.
Its headquaters is in Dubai!
It's headquarters are in Sunnyvale, Californa, United States of America. They were founded in 1969.
Try doing a little research.
If AMD is based in the US, why are they supporting EU pirates and flying their flag?
Does AMD also support the pirates in Somalia? Are they going to put the Somailan flag on their web site?
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Showing 1 of 2 pages (90 Comments)To witness, "Mission Accomplished."
It makes you wonder who's in charge at AMD.